Maiev - Melee Assassin - Warcraft Hero

[AeneasBK]

Are there any noteworthy Night Elves they haven't included now?

[RH92]

Are there any noteworthy Night Elves they haven't included now?

Not really, you can maybe make an argument for Broll Bearmantle and even Shandris Feathermoon.

However I think we already have enough elven archers and I would rather see Hamuul Runetotem as a feral Druid.

[anatlusnayr]

Not really, you can maybe make an argument for Broll Bearmantle and even Shandris Feathermoon.

However I think we already have enough elven archers and I would rather see Hamuul Runetotem as a feral Druid.

Fandral and Xavius

[RH92]

Fandral and Xavius

If Xavius counts as night elf, then I guess Azshara counts as one too.

About Fandral, he is just an edgy Malfurion and I really hope that Druid of the Flame thing remains a minor sidekick to Ragnaros and nothing more.

[Reza2001]

Are there any noteworthy Night Elves they haven't included now?

Kur'talos Ravencrest



Jarod Shadowsong

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Fandral and Xavius

Xavius would be dope



Of course if they add him with his Legion model

[DesoPL]

I wonder how difficult might be making model from WoW scalling to HOTS for Azshara from BfA. xD

[tristannarutofan]

hmmm so i wonder if she's a hard counter to illidan. sounds like he could win if he stays attacking her, but if he goes in and he cant escape. theoretically her D could stop his Hunt , and if she tethered him before he swept or dived the wrong target he'd be pulled back, and of course her warden wall is perfect for him

maybe counter but not hard counter. as her dmg seems to involve multiple enemies and so he could just like i said stay attacking her at outmatch her 1v1. but if she has a 25 man raid helping her...

[Deleted]

Brothers and sisters.. I bring sad news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkrdcNCgRng

She sounds awful. Mystic feminine allure lost.

And here is Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne aloe audio treatment for your hurt ears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug2z7uLIeo8

[NoiseTank13]

oh no

something from ten+ years ago sounds different

it's a national tragedy



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maiev's trait is on an 8 sec cooldown

commence tears

[apepi]

So far my favorite build is a Spirit of Vengeance Armored Assault build.

She actually feels very nice, can easily kill Li-ming/Syl. If you are very good you might be able to1v2 people, but it is definitely not easy.

[Sacredless]

Brothers and sisters.. I bring sad news.

She sounds awful. Mystic feminine allure lost.

And here is Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne aloe audio treatment for your hurt ears.

Hm... You know what, I actually agree. It's not because of the voice actress, though, it's clear that she was asked to make her voice as grungy as possible. Considering that she's just come out of surgery for non-cancer, I think that Blizzard probably ought to have asked her to use her regular voice. She's also the person who narrates the WoW vanilla introduction, for example.

I would have appreciated her to have used her old voice. I can see why they might think it sounds better, but I just don't think it does. Then again, it might be a specific requirement for HotS to sound a bit harsher to make sure the voice lines are legible.

[Deleted]

Hm... You know what, I actually agree. It's not because of the voice actress, though, it's clear that she was asked to make her voice as grungy as possible. Considering that she's just come out of surgery for non-cancer, I think that Blizzard probably ought to have asked her to use her regular voice. She's also the person who narrates the WoW vanilla introduction, for example.

I would have appreciated her to have used her old voice. I can see why they might think it sounds better, but I just don't think it does. Then again, it might be a specific requirement for HotS to sound a bit harsher to make sure the voice lines are legible.

Brother, I don't know the reason behind it, but calmer tones would most definitely not hurt character's presentation. She is one dimensional as she is now. And we will have to live with it.

Thre was charm to her before.

[Honik]

If Xavius counts as night elf, then I guess Azshara counts as one too.

They can always go for pre-naga (or whatever she is now) Azshara


And I just noticed. Maiev mentioned Cordana in voice over. Might be cool if they also put Cordana in game, something like Fel-Warden with spells inspirated by her boss fight? Hiding in shadows, while summoning Avatars and stuff. TWO WARDENS HUNTING EACH OTHER

[Stormcall]

Hm... You know what, I actually agree. It's not because of the voice actress, though, it's clear that she was asked to make her voice as grungy as possible. Considering that she's just come out of surgery for non-cancer, I think that Blizzard probably ought to have asked her to use her regular voice. She's also the person who narrates the WoW vanilla introduction, for example.

I would have appreciated her to have used her old voice. I can see why they might think it sounds better, but I just don't think it does. Then again, it might be a specific requirement for HotS to sound a bit harsher to make sure the voice lines are legible.

Throat surgery(as well as age) can change how your voice sounds. She probably CAN'T use that "regular voice" you mentioned.

[Sacredless]

Throat surgery(as well as age) can change how your voice sounds. She probably CAN'T use that "regular voice" you mentioned.

I am the son of a voice coach. In the voice line, "Like she tested mine while you murdered my sisters?!" you can hear the strain in her voice the clearest. The grunge that she uses isn't proper grunge, as far as I can tell. Grunge is a vocal technique which, if executed currently, doesn't strain the voice at all. But I have experience with vocals enough to know that what she's doing would be very straining.

I think that it's a bit weird that you'd assume that she simply can't do regular voices anymore. I'm not saying that she needs to sound the same as she did before, but I'm angry that her vocal coach in the booth seems to have pushed her so hard towards a particular direction of vocal technique that can very easily exacerbate the effects of throat surgery.

The kind of surgery that she's talking about may be a polyp. This is fairly common in singers and voice actors and it can require surgery to get rid of. It can be aggravated by certain vocal techniques. My father has had a polyp and one of his students had a polyp. For a while, we were concerned that I may have developed a polyp, but that turned out not to be the case.

Basically, throat surgery can be very broad. We don't know what kind of surgery that she receives. However, I agree, I shouldn't have phrased it as "using her old voice". That's not quite what I meant while I wrote it, I just sort of channeled what was in my head at the time. Rather, I meant that I would have appreciated her to have used the old vocal techniques. Don't underestimate them, what she did for Maiev is not neccesarily without strain. It may sound laid back, but you are still maintaining a voice. And it's possible that the surgery has altered the natural traits of her voice and that may also change the outcome of her techniques.

Does that make sense? I thought at first that the complaints were that she sounds like she's got an agitated throat. You may have noticed, but certain women naturally have a voice that makes it sound as though they have just proverbially "lost their voice". This is what happens when you have a throat infection, for example. So, the lines that we got in the intro I ascribed to her voice sounded agitated and that Debi Mae was trying to utilize that by making it part of her persona. When I listened to all of her voice lines, though, I can register that she's 'doing a grunge voice'.

That is my concern now. I can register that she is 'doing a voice' and I am expressing my opinion that, just like I like an open faced helmet, but I can see why they'd go for a closed one because of characterization, I like her 'not doing a voice'-voice for Maiev, but I can see why they have gone for the other version.

About vocal technique
Voices can be tricky to talk about. What I'm saying is, "I'm okay with it if her natural speaking voice has changed and this will affect her performance" but also, "I have a creative difference with the voice techniques applied to whatever natural voice she may have and I am curious to what she would sound like with a deepened, singer's voice like she did in Warcraft 3".

To explain more specifically, my father often explains singing technique by asking his students to 'open' their voice, in order to channel their voice. I'm not a voice coach, but if you look up "Freya" and "chest voice", I guess that's closer to what I mean. When I was still backstage in the opera, many of the choire-singers would continue to use their chest voice behind stage, so I'm guessing that's what's registering with me. A soprano or alto chest voice technique, but for regular speaking.

That sort of voice technique can be modulated towards certain vowels. For example, the "oo" vowel is very useful in higher ranges, allowing you to stabilize your voice there. By modulating your voice in this way, you can change the characteristics of your voice.

Now, Maiev's voice is close, but not the same as Debi Mae's natural voice. I'm a man, so testing the voice of Maiev is harder for me, but it sounds to me like the elves in WC3 are modulating their voices towards "eh" and "uh"-vowel. Which is a pretty natural modulation for American speech.

[Nerraw]

She seems pretty crazy.

[Nikkaszal]

She seems pretty crazy.

Grubs wasn't even playing that well either - there were tons of times D would/should have been used (eg he got hit by almost every Tyrael bomb) and he didn't utilise the hyper-reset of Q against multi-targets. Given time to learn and master Maiev, she will be fucking ruthless.

[tristannarutofan]

so it looks like she's prob going to help with how often ppl and ai like to clump up together? like obviously you shoudlnt 2v5 but...

[Tenjen]

Eu needs to wait until tomo right? Looking forward to this hero.

Also with all these ne's we really need moonsaber mounts.

[Nerraw]

Eu needs to wait until tomo right? Looking forward to this hero.

Also with all these ne's we really need moonsaber mounts.

Yes. EU maintenance is from 0200 to 0400 tomorrow morning.