We can ABSOLUTELY pretend WoD never happened

[Skytotem]

Title says it all.

Everyone seems to agree it had good background story and aesthetics for the orc clans and draenei, and interesting enemies in the form of the Primals/Breakers, Arakkoa and Gorian ogres, but a rather rubbish core plot with the handling of the Iron horde's behavior and the characterization of its leaders.

Here's the thing.

We can ABSOLUTELY stick all the Orc clan aesthetics and other bits from WoD like the High Arakkoa and Gorians and even Primals / Breakers on pieces of Outland that we just hadn't discovered yet.

Phase/Instance them to use them as start zones for races or as new questing zones similar to Argus.

We NEVER have to speak of the AU and its terrible time travel nonsense again.

"But Sky, what about Yrel?" Well sometimes to save the body you have to hack off a few limbs, forget Yrel you have Commander Fareeya and the Lightforged now.

"But Sky, we can't just pretend it doesn't exist! It's a whole planet!"
I say, OH NO, A TERRIBLE MAGIC SHOCKWAVE FROM SARGERAS STABBING THE WORLD HAS DISCONNECTED US FROM ALTERNATE DRAENOR What a terrible shame...

And the Dark Portal goes to Outland again, the REAL Draenor and we're all happy.

[Aucald]

My sympathies - but Gul'dan and Cordana Felsong are always going to be your proverbial "mother's token" that keeps WoD a relevant part of the WoW continuity. I agree with you on most of what your say out of a shared disgust for what WoD became, but it was unfortunately not just a fever-dream and *did* actually occur. "Chronicle Vol. 2" went pretty far in merging the WoD setting with that of MU Draenor, meaning some aspects you're referring to are possible still for Outland, but as long as the narrative bridge of Gul'dan exists you can't entirely close the book on WoD and declare it a black box for the game's lore.

[Flurryfang]

But why do we have to pretend it never happend?

Im not saying, that good things happend there and that we should try to take ideas from that expansion, but since Blizz pretty much killed off 95% of the reanimated characters from the past anyway, there is still alot of potential using the premise of Dreanor and the characters within that universe for something good.

Like atm, we are lacking good dreanei and orc characters, stuck with Velen and Saurfang as our only good representators from these races, so why not let Yrel go on some adventures in our land together with Grom maybe? Have Grom change a lot from his original design and instead become a wanderer of sort together with Yrel, where they fight together with the player character as a neautral meeting point.

Also, there is literally an army of Dreanei on the other side of the dark portal, so that entire people could play an interesting role aswell, if Blizzard is up for playing around with the idea of humans not being the only race with a big city under their name on Azeroth


So yeah, fuck what happend in WoD and let it burn, but since it happend anyway, why not keep the options open, so that if Blizzard actually want to create good story at some point, they have the options from Dreanor aswell as the rest of the worlds in WoW

[Deleted]

I always have, lol.

Gul'dan is ours but got ressed / it's his spirit, Cordana was Khadgar's friend and Maiev's "subordinate" but betrayed them both in legion pre-events, Maraad died offscreen or has left to search for Med'an.

I think that 3 are the only connections to our timeline?

[Techno-Druid]

Is it weird that I want every WoD to make an appearance on Azeroth except orcs and draenei?

[Blamblam41]

Sadly, just like Illidan and Sargeras' retcon, whatever happens on the internet, stays on the internet.

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I always have, lol.

Gul'dan is ours but got ressed / it's his spirit, Cordana was Khadgar's friend and Maiev's "subordinate" but betrayed them both in legion pre-events, Maraad died offscreen or has left to search for Med'an.

I think that 3 are the only connections to our timeline?

That's somehow better than all of WoD, too.

The only time I'd ever condone Blizzard just writing it all off into a book.

Calling it now, WoD was just the PTSD fever dream of a dying Maraad that caught the plague or the void or generic plot to kill a character #439.

[envenger]

I always have, lol.

Gul'dan is ours but got ressed / it's his spirit, Cordana was Khadgar's friend and Maiev's "subordinate" but betrayed them both in legion pre-events, Maraad died offscreen or has left to search for Med'an.

I think that 3 are the only connections to our timeline?

Yes or Gul'dan just appeared out of nowhere and we don't know his origin. May be he never truly died in the first place who knows.

[Teri]

If they let us quest in Legion at 90-110, then we can "ignore" WoD. Until then, it's part of the process. (Boosting/battleground spam isn't really story-mode).

And no I am not complaining about 90-100 leveling as it's easy, and with flying+treasures+now scaling loot it's fine.

[Deleted]

What is wod, I don't remember? I wake up with swets some times is that why?

[Blamblam41]

Yes or Gul'dan just appeared out of nowhere and we don't know his origin. May be he never truly died in the first place who knows.

IMO, I always assumed that if the Skull of Guldan had the power to make Illidan half demon, Guldan was demon enough to be reformed in the nether.

Food for thought.

[Deleted]

If they let us quest in Legion at 90-110, then we can "ignore" WoD. Until then, it's part of the process. (Boosting/battleground spam isn't really story-mode).

And no I am not complaining about 90-100 leveling as it's easy, and with flying+treasures+now scaling loot it's fine.

There's gotta be a way to get around wod? I was really upset that the new scaling didn't let me hit pandaria at 90 and do that 90-100

[Deleted]

I actually enjoyed WoD a lot, sure it didn't have a lot of endgame content, but it was pretty enjoyable to me.

[Minikin]

"But Sky, we can't just pretend it doesn't exist! It's a whole planet!"
I say, OH NO, A TERRIBLE MAGIC SHOCKWAVE FROM SARGERAS STABBING THE WORLD HAS DISCONNECTED US FROM ALTERNATE DRAENOR What a terrible shame...

And the Dark Portal goes to Outland again, the REAL Draenor and we're all happy.

i agree with some points and partially disagree with others (iam biased i really want arakkoa moonkin form), but that line there made me laugh out loud during my lecture here. thanks for the morning laugh.

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Sadly, just like Illidan and Sargeras' retcon, whatever happens on the internet, stays on the internet.

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That's somehow better than all of WoD, too.

The only time I'd ever condone Blizzard just writing it all off into a book.

Calling it now, WoD was just the PTSD fever dream of a dying Maraad that caught the plague or the void or generic plot to kill a character #439.

off topic i know: but ive been trying to read what the text in your profile pic is for a good 15min, and I just cant do it. It is driving me crazy, can you just type out here what it is? insightful minds would like to know

[Super Kami Dende]

I liked WoD, It just didn't have enough to do for me at Endgame. The Story was enjoyable.

[Jshadowhunter]

You can't change history or erase it, no matter how much you want. All you can do it live with is and learn from it for a better future.

[Deleted]

I'd rather forget Legion ever happened.

WoD was fun to play, it just missed content. You people understand nothing.

[Hugnomo]

"But Sky, we can't just pretend it doesn't exist! It's a whole planet!"
I say, OH NO, A TERRIBLE MAGIC SHOCKWAVE FROM SARGERAS STABBING THE WORLD HAS DISCONNECTED US FROM ALTERNATE DRAENOR What a terrible shame...

And the Dark Portal goes to Outland again, the REAL Draenor and we're all happy.

I laughed so much at this.
But yeah. It's a damn shame because draenor looked beautiful and gave us a ton of lore through the breakers/primals, the arakkoa, the ogres, the orcs, the draenei, the void, etc. But it was wasted on a confusing premise of timetravel through alternative dimensions that I think should refrain from spilling into the main plot as much as possible. Gameplay aspects aside, that expansion also created the mess about one legion in all dimensions; cut farahlon; made yrel go from 0 to hero because of cut content; did not deal with grom's crimes because it decided to make him the good guy at the last second; made archimonde the last boss.

We'll see what comes out of the new "draenor orcs" allied race.

[Segus1992]

I'd rather forget Legion ever happened.

WoD was fun to play, it just missed content. You people understand nothing.

Similarly, Wildstar was fun, it just wasn't a good game. You people understand nothing.

[killwithpwr]

IMO, I always assumed that if the Skull of Guldan had the power to make Illidan half demon, Guldan was demon enough to be reformed in the nether.

Food for thought.

Exactly, there's just no real reason to go to AU Draenor except from re-introducing the Orc heros of the past.

The things i would take away from Draenor to outland is the Apexis society (not the crystals. Please NOT THE CRYSTALS!) And BRF And Highmaul...

The raids imo were great and you can imagine demons corrupting HFC on outland and turning it into what it is on Draenor...

[Devonitar]

Horrible experiences are the most important ones to remember.