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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Don't impose your beliefs onto others, that's very regressive.
    No it's called being a caring human being.

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    oh! another thread in which burka haters trade places with burka apologists.
    Do these come in waves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    We don't.
    We do daily doesn't matter if you like it or not.

    Ever look at someone and think "They got a nice ______" that's objectifying them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    No it's called being a caring human being.
    No that's called forcing your beliefs on to others. Its no different then someone preaching there religion to others.

    Not everyone thinks the way you do and your way isn't the 100% factual right way ether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by X Amadeus X View Post
    Ohh Noo you aren't you aren't fooling me, that might all be true but you are red hot blooded man, who has eyes and instincts just like everyone else. Which is a good thing, I mean you have discipline, you are wise with age and experience. But you were young once, and you have weaknesses too!

    I mean I agree, no way and hell am I going to any of the above for their overpriced wings either, but you and I both know that ain't why anybody goes, and for those prices, I am going to do nothing but look, in fact I am going to go out of my way not to look at her eyes at all

    But that doesn't make me evil or bad or them either. As long as you behave yourself and keep your hands to yourself and are cheap, you also don't got and not leave a good tip.

    But as I said GP, it will be on me. The guilt on your face will be payment enough
    Yeah. I agree we all have a weakness. And I do not think you are evil or bad for going to a Hooters. Maybe just a dirty old man like I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    That's not what objectifying someone is.

    This is:
    Quote Originally Posted by Objectification
    the action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object.
    We are all objects though. Unless you believe in mysticism.

    Also your definition is exactly what ancient fertility carving was about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    We do daily doesn't matter if you like it or not.
    Citation needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Ever look at someone and think "They got a nice ______" that's objectifying them.
    It isn't. I repeat:

    Objectification: the action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    We are all objects though. Unless you believe in mysticism.
    You don't understand that physical object and philosophical object are not the same thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    Also your definition is exactly what ancient fertility carving was about.
    Creating a piece of art is not dehumanization of a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Citation needed.



    It isn't. I repeat:

    Objectification: the action of degrading someone to the status of a mere object.
    No citation needed, we are animals. If you look at someone and say 'They got nice ____" they is literally objectifying them, You disagree because it proves your whole argument wrong.

    You don't get to change things to fit your argument. If I look at woman and say she has a nice ass that's objectifying them, If you look at a woman/man and say they have nice eyes that is objectifying.

    That is why objectification isn't a 100% negative because it can be positive it all depends the context used.

    But don't let this little fact ruin your false reality.
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    OMG people making moniez from boobies.

    That is so news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    No citation needed, we are animals.
    That's not the part citation is needed for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    If you look at someone and say 'They got nice ____" they is literally objectifying them, You disagree because it proves your whole argument wrong.

    You don't get to change things to fit your argument. If I look at woman and say she has a nice ass that's objectifying them, If you look at a woman/man and say they have nice eyes that is objectifying.

    That is why objectification isn't a 100% negative because it can be positive it all depends the context used.

    But don't let this little fact ruin your false reality.
    Yeah, you don't understand what words mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    Yep, just let the markets do whatever they want without regulation...

    What happens when you do not regulate markets (child coal miner America^)
    This forum gets dumber and dumber by the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz
    MMO champion for example used to be the center of WoW theorycrafting

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanook12 View Post
    What if a mans dream is to be a Hooters server? Is he actively discriminated again when he is not selected for the job because he is not a female with giant boobs?
    I guess, but life's not fair. Companies make moves to increase profit. What the market yearns for doesn't always comply men and women equally. Hooters has chosen to make their business with the image of sexy waitresses, expecting their customer base to consist of people who want sexy waitresses tending to them. Anyone is free to start a restaurant of their own with only sexy male waiters and see for themselves how well it takes off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Yeah, you don't understand what words mean.
    That's ironic coming from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misuteri View Post
    OMG people making moniez from boobies.

    That is so news!
    Would you be happy if your wife or daughter was a stripper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    That's ironic coming from you.
    You still don't understand what objectification means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    No it's called being a caring human being.
    You really don't care about them if you are campaigning against their jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Creating a piece of art is not dehumanization of a person.
    Hooter's is not taking away anyone's humanity though.

    What about sperm donors who get paid and the woman who pay for fertilization. Are they dehumanizing the male?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viconia View Post
    I guess, but life's not fair. Companies make moves to increase profit. What the market yearns for doesn't always comply men and women equally. Hooters has chosen to make their business with the image of sexy waitresses, expecting their customer base to consist of people who want sexy waitresses tending to them. Anyone is free to start a restaurant of their own with only sexy male waiters and see for themselves how well it takes off.
    Good point. People think tennis players wear less clothing to stay cool and expect no one to notice the other attractions? Or someone walks down the beach in a thong swim suit , should get upset if people stare? Sex sells in a lot more ways then some seem to notice or want to admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    Would you be happy if your wife or daughter was a stripper?
    Hooters are not strippers. Go to a strip joint and you will understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    You really don't care about them if you are campaigning against their jobs.
    They can find other jobs? Or they can be normal, self respecting servers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrages View Post
    Liberals won't stop until there's no fun, ever.
    We can still have fun, but first you need to put on your burkas.

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