Battle for Azeroth Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Shadochi]

I'd love it if Classic existed in-universe because Chromie went back in time to unfuck the story.

So fixing the story we be chromie going to Arthas and telling him not to taunt us all over Northrend but just kill us? Because what he does in WotLK has all the signs of a poorly writtend BBEG.
Not to mention that Vanilla (and TBC to a degree) didn't know what character development is at all and just wasted/destroyed potentially good character all the time.

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i don't think so, since in argus we fight against a titan, with no planet size, and get help of another titans who are not planet size as well

So they obvious can resize themselves

sure it controversy the past lore, but this is not new in wow

Are you sure we weren't just brought to near-titan scale? (Agrammar in antorus being an avatar)

Since otherwise it wouldn't make any sense why we are able to see the Seat of the Pantheon's glow from Azeroth if it was so small.

[Drekmar]

tfw when people don't realize (can't accept?) that Blizz/WC worldbuilding & writing only got better over the years and most of the plotholes are because of old, bad writing.

WoD is not old.

[huth]

WoD is not old.

It's also not half the plothole you make it out to be.

[Zulkhan]

You know what else have been wanted for a long time? High elves.


Mag'har orcs? Honestly. Spoiler guys, green orcs are pretty much mag'har orcs.

Lel Green Orcs are not Mag'har Orcs by a matter of fact.

[gcsmith]

It's also not half the plothole you make it out to be.

Really? The expansion said there was 1 legion and only 1 of each demon and yet introduced multiple copies of existing demons "Socrethar" for example. That is a plot hole.

[Drekmar]

It's also not half the plothole you make it out to be.

Its one of the biggest.

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Really? The expansion said there was 1 legion and only 1 of each demon and yet introduced multiple copies of existing demons "Socrethar" for example. That is a plot hole.

Which also means infinite amount of Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden copies. LUL

[Shadochi]

Really? The expansion said there was 1 legion and only 1 of each demon and yet introduced multiple copies of existing demons "Socrethar" for example. That is a plot hole.

As far as I can see on wowpedia (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Socrethar_the_Eternal) it's nowhere mentioned that AU Othaar became a demon, just that his soul was put in a fel vigilant, which is mechanical. And he himself doesn't use any fel powers if you scroll down.

For all we know, the moment an AU creature becomes a demon (even tho it isn't the case here) he merges into the burning legion and his other versions (if they are also demons).

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Its one of the biggest.

MU army sizes in all expansions is a much bigger plothole imo.

[Doffer]

Damn, they created so many vulture mounts but we still can't obtain one of the Highmountain Eagle mounts? Thats disappointing

[Shadochi]

Which also means infinite amount of Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden copies. LUL

Read above for an explanation... probably the same would be for other beings empowered by the light, void and titans.

[huth]

Really? The expansion said there was 1 legion and only 1 of each demon and yet introduced multiple copies of existing demons "Socrethar" for example. That is a plot hole.

Except it didn't say the latter. That was player speculation.

Which also means infinite amount of Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden copies. LUL

Most of which wouldn't be part of the Legion. Most of which would never even hear about it. Aside from that, there would be no particular problem with having multiples of them any more than there would be with identical twins.

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Read above for an explanation... probably the same would be for other beings empowered by the light, void and titans.

Or it's simply wrong, since there was never any confirmation. So AU Othaar simply became AU Socrethar, and that's it. Since he doesn't appear to recognize us after "ascending", he clearly didn't merge with MU Socrethar either way.

[Drekmar]

Read above for an explanation... probably the same would be for other beings empowered by the light, void and titans.

What about Sargeras? Each universe has it's own titans.

[huth]

What about Sargeras? Each universe has it's own titans.

Titans might be unique. Aman'thul had the ability to make Nozdormu such. While it's certainly possible there are other Titans around in the AU, it's possible they have no equivalent in the MU and vice versa.

[gcsmith]

As far as I can see on wowpedia (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Socrethar_the_Eternal) it's nowhere mentioned that AU Othaar became a demon, just that his soul was put in a fel vigilant, which is mechanical. And he himself doesn't use any fel powers if you scroll down.

For all we know, the moment an AU creature becomes a demon (even tho it isn't the case here) he merges into the burning legion and his other versions (if they are also demons).

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MU army sizes in all expansions is a much bigger plothole imo.

He becomes a demon as part of a quest, you even see it happen as he gets blessed.

[Rhlor]

gorgrond is the home of the laughing skull clan!they joined the horde, that clan can be an allied race. I like those crazy orcs! are funny

[Makorus]

100% sure Draenor Orcs are gonna be Alliance.

I really hope so.

[gcsmith]

100% sure Draenor Orcs are gonna be Alliance.

I really hope so.

Why would the alliance accept a bunch of orcs that murdered their people?

[Shadochi]

100% sure Draenor Orcs are gonna be Alliance.

I really hope so.

Hope so too, we get orcs and the Horde can get defias humans or some type of draenei.

[huth]

Why would the alliance accept a bunch of orcs that murdered their people?

About the only ones making any sense whatsoever would be the Shadowmoon exiles.

[Shadochi]

Why would the alliance accept a bunch of orcs that murdered their people?

They already accepted former horde members, dark Iron dwarves... Not every single clan member is the same...

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They already accepted former horde members, dark Iron dwarves... Not every single clan member is the same...

..........................................................Dark Iron have NEVER been Horde aligned.......................................................