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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by sillag View Post
    see the thing you have to realize is that legion was wow's big finale. you got the artifact weapons. you went to argus. you met every single titan and beat sargeras. the universe is saved. and thats the end of world of warcraft right?

    no not right. world of warcraft must continue the shareholders demand it. so now we are moving into the ill-advised extra season of wow that only airs once on syfy and that years later we will all agree made no sense and should be considered non canon.
    The Legion in Legion was underwhelming and sucked dick so I’m glad things didn’t end there. And most would agree Artifact weapons were garbage too. Worst finale ever.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by troll View Post
    same i stopped caring about lore after wrath because that's when they stopped continuing the old warcraft story and started forcing their own made up lore down our throats ugh don't even get me started on kung fu pandas
    MoP was actually extremely rich in lore, both lore about Pandaria and lore regarding many of the faction leaders.

  3. #143
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    Eh. Let's see

    Night elves do something stupid/get framed for something (old god shit)
    Sylvannas retaliates by nuking their tree (maybe some whispers here)
    Lorderon happens
    Kultiras and zandalar happen, both seems to include naga and old god.

    Yup nothing new. Just old god and naga problems.
    Oh, and if they are going to blame someone from horde, then nathanos is dead, since he received an update to boss char model, and mathas Shaw because he gave me the evil eye in that cinematic

  4. #144
    LEgion should have ended on Suramar. That zone should have been the End content and Nighthold the final Raid. Up until 7.2 things were pretty good, once that patch hit everything went to shit. BfA doesnt look like it will have enough content to even last a year before everyone gets really bored.
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    Yep

    BfA attracts me for a lot of mechanicals reasons that looks fun to play. But I made my peace for the dogshit story it will be served with. Azeroth unite to face the single most dangerous threat ever, facing planetary destruction, but hey "let's jump at each other throat again". All this shit leading to nowhere with both faction singing kumbaya again at its end.

    Red vs Blue fake war is boring and reeks lack of creativity. It's just obvious Blizzard was afraid of their own lore developement at the end of Legion (void, interplanetary explorations, space travel) and wanted some time to breath with a more grounded expansion.

    Still happy to see Zandalar (can't care less about Kul Tiras, even if I'm an alliance player), dungeons designed with MM+in mind, warfront, WQ continuation and improvement, supression of tiers making loot more exciting and simply new PVE content.
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  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolknerd View Post

    Because of it's extremely strategic position between the Broken Isles and Eastern Kingdoms. DUH.

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    BS. You just made that up. And why would they be strategic now and not previously? Again, the alliance and horde had no problem building fleets to go to war and other continents before without Kul Tiras. The point being Blizzard's lore in the RTS was that Kul Tiras was the MAIN naval fleet of the alliance but they never included Kul Tiras in game since Vanilla so whatever "strategic" advantage they had was ignored for 7 expansions. That is why the old destroyed forts in Kalimdor near Ratchet were originally full of Kul Tiras marines because that is the navy that took the alliance there in the RTS. So now they just decided to include them because they needed some new areas to set the expansion in behind a paywall. Each and every expansion they make has to follow that formula and using Kul Tiras now is just for convenience sake. Lore be damnned. Strategic has nothing to do with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolknerd View Post
    And what the fuck are you talking about? The Alliance ACTUALLY does occupy the territory in BFA. You ACTUALLY cannot go there anymore as Horde and have the same experience anymore after you've been through the quests on that character unless you go talk to some NPC (like in Badlands), the Undercity is actually taken over by the Alliance otherwise and it will be very clear in the game. Why would it make sense for it to be a permanent change that new players can't experience, or so that you can't go to Scarlet Monastery anymore?
    The damn attack on Lordaeron should not be in some fricking scenario. That is stupid bull crap. It cheapens the whole lore. So if you can just go there like nothing happened right up to max level then it didn't really happen. You should see the forces of the alliance actually camping near Lordearon and having skrimishes from DAY ONE of the BfA expansion. Anything else is dull and boring phased bull crap. This is an MMO, not a single player game. Everybody should feel the impact of that event across all levels for "immersion". And of course there should be PVP ojbectives as part of that campaign IN GAME against actual players and not NPCs and level has nothing to do with it.

  7. #147
    It's not a Horde vs Alliance expansion. It's an Old God expansion, I don't know how hard this is to understand for some people.

  8. #148
    I don't give much of a fuck about the stupid faction war, so the primary draw of the xpack doesn't work for me at first.

    That said, some of the stories about the Zandalari and Kul'tiras seem cool, and of course later on we're going to deal with Azshara/N'zoth anyway. So this may be like Mists, where the primary theme of the xpack doesn't appeal to me but the world building, side-stories and PvE story arcs (such as the Mantid, Lei Shen, and Vol'jin's rebellion) does.
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    I want to know what happens to Lordaeron and Teldrassil, that's about it. Don't give two flying friggs about anything else. Zandalar is kinda cool, but I'm an Alliance player so will get to see precisely nothing of it

  10. #150
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    It's more than just Horde vs Alliance. That's just the main continuing storyline throughout the expansion. The war campaign. It's just replacing the class hall stuff. We never even had these types of campaigns till a few years ago.


    In the world outside of the War Campaign there is still:

    -The mysterious stuff happening in Kul Tiras. Seeing what happened to the people of Kul Tiras since the place floated away, Jaina's relationship with her mother, Pirates, death druids, sea priests. all kinds of shit. It's the story I'm MOST excited to play. It feels very vanilla WoW just with a new coat of paint in the best way possible.

    -Then you have Zandalar, Blood Trolls, Thrall/Voljin and Uldir.

    -We know Azshara and the Naga aren't far off either

    -We know N'Zoth is still out there as well. It's just N'Zoth is not really the type of villain to announce his presence.

    -Wrathion was also spotted at the Alliance Embassy at one point. So I imagine he'll have a role.

    -The Magni/Azeroth stuff too.

    -Allied races could potentially appear in the storyline. I find it really odd that Dark Iron for example is being held off for BFA instead of playable now. Maybe they'll actually have a mini storyline on Kul'Tiras for example.



    I'm also really excited for the War Campaign too and I hope this is Blizz's way of finally giving all the faction leaders something to do.

    Also, this war is really just a cover for N'Zoth. He'll most likely be manipulating this war from afar.

  11. #151
    However broken, clumsy, cringy, cheesy and lame the WoW storyline happens to be at times, it is the main reason I still play the game. I got hooked by W3 and continue still.
    Now, we finally have something at least partially resembling a proper storyline after 2 years of shameless, twistless, cliche-filled Good Us vs Bad Demons bs with Argus being the pinnacle of this bs.
    of course, we will see tons of fanservice, rule of the cool etc. but still. It warmed me heart Blizz'd put it straight at Blizzcon that this xpac is gonna be story(lore)-oriented rather than buttonpushing-oriented.

  12. #152
    I just care about The Burning, whats up with Saurfang, Geen Vs Syvannas,
    Wich I think are the only things I have seeing that look interesting for me.
    Don't care about Jaina, we've been hearing the same shit from her since a couple of years now, change the fucking record already, or old god, or any other alliance character

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    Why do i feel that Thrall gona once again challenge some warchief to Mak'gora in BFA)). mop2.0 inc
    Please, there a perfect example of hypocritical thinking:
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    Far better than old gods, void lords, the legion or whatever stupid evil bigbad they pull out of their arse.

    I'm glad we're returning to focusing on the only enemy that matters.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by troll View Post
    same i stopped caring about lore after wrath because that's when they stopped continuing the old warcraft story and started forcing their own made up lore down our throats ugh don't even get me started on kung fu pandas
    That's got to be the dumbest objection. It's ALL "their own made up lore", they're the ones writing the story!

    As for me I'm excited specifically because it leans us towards a lot more personal, character-driven conflict as we're dealing with people fighting people rather than us uniting against some great cosmic space satan or lava dragon. It was the conflicts between people that have always made for the most fascinating stories to me, and I welcome with open arms more of the sort of embracing the darkness and tragedy of war we saw in MoP.

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    Nah I like it and am pretty pumped for it. If you think Battle for Azeroth will just be Alliance Vs Horde you'll be mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeula View Post
    I'm glad we're returning to focusing on the only enemy that matters.
    Yeah, those other guys! Fuck those people!

  18. #158
    I play Warcraft for Horde vs Alliance. Side stories are nice, but if I want a melodramatic space opera I go play SC2 campaign.

    Sick and tired of these untouchable old gods and titans and bullshit the player could never have the hope to defeat. Give me a fucking green skin to impale and a panda's' head to chop off.

  19. #159
    Never really given a shit about the lore. I don't care if i kill Gul'dan, an evil orc person or generic orc number 4. Aslong as the fights are fun and well balanced.

  20. #160
    Do you also get mad that the two sides in CoD are duking it out again?

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