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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophenia View Post
    Yeah why would we complain ? A new casual player wanting to give a try will buy WoW, spend 1 month leveling, and will likely leave before reaching level 110 (or 120 in BfA).

    Where is the problem ?
    Or they might find the new gameplay actual engaging (unlike the broken levelling before 7.3.5) and actually stay untill level cap.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad View Post
    90% of your though are subjective

    So stop this bullshit of " Derp you are wrong and this is bad " because it is your own opinion so fucking stop to write like it is the truth.

    Because on dozen of poll regarding 7.3.5 people seems to appreciate it so get over.
    Yes, as I clearly stated at the end there but I guess you didn't actually read it.
    Oh, and please do link a few relevant polls then and don't just makes stuff up. Opinions are more preferable over simply making stuff up.

    The rather enormous amount of negative feedback on the forums, thats something we'll just ignore I take it?

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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad View Post
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Ok and thats probably twise the amount of time it used to take. Whats your point?

  5. #105
    dude you can just get a friend to boost you?! seriously this is well known already. its even faster than before this patch. you can stay in stokades till level 61-62. damn i even saw hordies outside of the stokades on Argent Dawn! you have 2 options to level and you still complain? i mean, really?!
    There is a void in my heart. Have you come to fill it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Yes, as I clearly stated at the end there but I guess you didn't actually read it.
    Oh, and please do link a few relevant polls then and don't just makes stuff up. Opinions are more preferable over simply making stuff up.

    The rather enormous amount of negative feedback on the forums, thats something we'll just ignore I take it?
    Make up stuff like the first Reddit post regarding 7.3.5 that was pure negative and got debunked in which you and other toxic users where swimming?


    We got there like 3 poll you can go and see them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Ok and thats probably twise the amount of time it used to take. Whats your point?
    "probably" isn't objective ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melius View Post
    dude you can just get a friend to boost you?! seriously this is well known already. its even faster than before this patch. you can stay in stokades till level 61-62. damn i even saw hordies outside of the stokades on Argent Dawn! you have 2 options to level and you still complain? i mean, really?!
    Because mmo c troll have only this left.

  9. #109
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    I kind of enjoy the questing more now rather than before just because of the zone adapting to my level and being able to just do the quest without worring a bit if I was outleveling anything. I think this type of change was in much need to be implemented for a better user experience, especially on newcomers.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Battlebeard View Post
    Well, things change and the game change. In vanilla, the content when leveling was actually fun and actually ment something. Good gear you got after a long quest chain or in an instance was used for a long time and quite useful.

    Now, or rather, pre this latest patch, I could level so fast that the gear you put on was useless and not even worth equipping. I remember leveling my monk, at level 70 I realized my bags were full, and I sold everything. I hovered a lvl 70 gear I got, like a wrist and realized I didn't even have that slot equipped.
    I entirely agree with that. But isn't that more or less the whole point of slowing down leveling ? Bringing back the value of time invested and making getting on-level gear more significant ? Isn't the absurd part precisely that it's still far too fast to get to this point ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Battlebeard View Post
    Well, yes, that I could do. However, I have played almost all types of games there is. While I really like games like Overwatch, CS and PUBG and Hearthstone, I get bored of those games too fast.

    The only game I seem to still not get bored of is WoW, or rather to raid in this game with many other people. That's why I want to play WoW efficiently, and just focus on the parts I enjoy, which are the raids. So I want a raid-only WoW, all other aspects are really meh to me.
    But you can't really ask the game to keep gutting a large and iconic part of itself because you don't want to play it. Especially as you've played the game for years and as such should not have a dire need of leveling another toon, as you should by now have any you need at max level already.
    Quote Originally Posted by VileGenesis View Post
    Fuck off with this bullshit, no they WONT. They left before, because guess what? A game that within 10 levels goes from normal MMO to one-shot everyting for 90 levels is BORING TO PLAY.

    Not to mention that dungeons made most new players leave, you think its fun being new to an MMO, finally getting to the dungeons and expecting a challange? And have 4 clownlooking heirloom heroes bumrush the entire thing in 5 mins while you run behind collecting quest items and feeling completely useless?
    Truth. I leveled a char in Legion, and my god it was just torture before Pandaria - boring as hell OS bonanza, nothing felt worth anything, nothing felt like accomplishing anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanablossom View Post
    They could've atleast make it challenging instead of just boosting enemy HP and lowering player damage.
    No, when you can OS mob while being naked, you can't really make the game interesting without making the mob less easily killable. Duh.
    Last edited by Akka; 2018-02-13 at 01:38 PM.

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad View Post
    "probably" isn't objective ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Do you have a screen of the same feat from befor the patch where you used the same leveling path?

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcanines View Post
    I don't enjoy questing, I wanna dungeon spam, I don't play this game for quests, never have, and I never will either. I do whats needed to get flying, whilst watching porn or other entertainment.

    People that quest are happy, people that gives 0 cares about lore, and just wanna get it done with, enjoys dungeons more as I feel like I'm doing something. How hard is it to understand?

    Guess I should also say 60 hours to get level cap is awfully slow, my record in WOD was 36 hours, and I can do 100 to 110 in 5-6 hours depending on class flat.
    I likewise prefer to get to the end game and do the stuff I enjoy vs quests I've done 8-9 times in the past. Luckily, I've been given a boost three XPs in a row and in each of the last two XPs they have made a later-game or pre-patch mechanism that allowed for super fast leveling ie... the Demon invasions across Azeroth... I was able to go from 1-100 on several toons in one day each just by doing those invasions and using leveling pots, I got a monk to max level in under 9 hours due to their temple leveling boost thing.. I did zero quests other than the ones associated with those invasions and I truly can't recall if there were any other than -- get to Westfall, Dun Morogh, Azshara and blah blah blah...

    So, Blizz has in the past given me options to circumvent the grind -- they also continue to allow me to buy a boost if I want to complete skip the process... Don't know if there will be another invasion sort of event like at the end of WOD that will allow for faster leveling but I know that since I care about end game I won't need to level a toon from 1-110 for mog gear... If I end up wanting one of the new allied races Ill take one of my already leveled toons and race change it.. Because the option exists... and because I have all the requirements given it was all max level content... Otherwise... I'll have to actually PLAY the game as they intended.

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad View Post
    Make up stuff like the first Reddit post regarding 7.3.5 that was pure negative and got debunked in which you and other toxic users where swimming?


    We got there like 3 poll you can go and see them
    Not sure what you even mean here.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Ophenia View Post
    Yeah why would we complain ? A new casual player wanting to give a try will buy WoW, spend 1 month leveling, and will likely leave before reaching level 110 (or 120 in BfA).

    Where is the problem ?
    Pretty sure that new casual player got a free boost with the game and didnt have to do any leveling at all if they didn't want to. So. yeah. . Where is the problem?

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Kikazz View Post
    i was just stating that some people dont hjave the time anymore, as people like me who have played since release, have families and other responsibilities, yet still want to find time to play the game without having to go back and repeat the grind.
    They can just take it slow, or find more time, or change game. I'd take Vanilla leveling (long but fun and engaging, where every step feels like an accomplishment), where I spend 10 days of /played having fun and progressing, over Legion leveling (short but boring as hell, where whatever you do has no impact and feels empty and pointless), which is just wasting 40 hours and a much more offensive loss of time.

    Of course, the changes to leveling are not well done (scaling is stupid, heirloom still makes getting gear pointless, nothing you get during leveling is worth anything, the mob are still weak enough that you don't feel you could use better stat, etc.), so they don't really fix the problems, but at least it shows Blizzard is starting to be aware there IS a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraner View Post
    Started a HM Tauren warrior the other day. In 4-5 hours I completed all the quests in Azshara, ran 1 dungeon (SM) and 1 Crown Chemical CO and am now at level 37. Gained 1 full level from the dungeon and it took 15-20 minutes.

    So 17 levels in 4-5 hours does not seem like a lot to me. Nor did I feel at any point in questing or dungeon that something is overtuned.
    It's a hell of a lot, what are you on about?
    60 hrs just to get to the start of the game??????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Do you have a screen of the same feat from befor the patch where you used the same leveling path?
    Nope because I finished to level all my toons during WOD using boost paid with golds.

    And my main was levelled during Vanilla so I'm sorry but your tentative is futile.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Aproydtix View Post
    It took me less than 60 hours game time to level from 20 to 110 on my Void Elf Shadow Priest.
    So you're saying that 60 hours is nothing? That it isn't much time? Because it sure damn is a lot of time to spend on leveling alone. That is ten weeks of progression raiding with a three days raiding schedule. That is around a hundred high level M+ runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Not sure what you even mean here.
    Because as a troll you don't care for the sake of the discussion but just to spread your logical fallacies, just like any other troll in this site.


    Also avoid to retro-edit post thinking that nobody will notice because


    " Huge amount of negative feedback " is pure shit without any link or proof, also because usually those "feedback" are from people who didn't even levelled a toon or got the same path

    Op post = negative feedback with strawman argument s
    2nd post = debunk op post
    Other posts = positive feedback and qol suggestions

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Shad View Post
    Because on dozen of poll regarding 7.3.5 people seems to appreciate it so get over.
    Let's see how many appreciate it vs how many don't:

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...d-(Final-word)

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