Never forget the wise words from Warcraft 3, regarding the on-going faction wars

[MatthiasLehner]

“Can your blood atone for genocide, orc?
Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron.
Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily?
No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you.”

— Daelin Proudmoore threatening Thrall.




Poor old man, this truly enlightened and future seer deserved better than his treacherous wench daughter and damn orcs, am I right? ;D

[Deleted]

We need some more genocide on those whiny little Alliance bitches. Theramoore clearly wasn't enough.

[Bigby]

We need some more genocide on those whiny little Alliance bitches. Theramoore clearly wasn't enough.

Clearly beating the Horde a few years ago wasn't enough.

It's fine. Plenty more victories for the Alliance where that came from.

;^)

[Clone]

“Can your blood atone for genocide, orc?
Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron.
Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily?
No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you.”

— Daelin Proudmoore threatening Thrall.




Poor old man, this truly enlightened and future seer deserved better than his treacherous wench daughter and damn orcs, am I right? ;D

Both you and Daelin are wrong. His invasion of Durotar made sure peace would never be possible. He fulfilled his own prophecy.

[Bigby]

Both you and Daelin are wrong. His invasion of Durotar made sure peace would never be possible. He fulfilled his own prophecy.

Not really. Jaina and Rexxar and Co. put a stop to Daelin so that peace would be possible, and it worked for years.

Then along come the Forsaken, and Garrosh, and... well.

[Tarba]

“ ”
— Daelin Proudmoore During the destruction of Lordaeron, quel'talas, Dalaran the invasion of the burning legion, the defeat of the scourge and the defeat of Archimonde
He is as good as Stormwind when they call Lordaeron their land.

[Clone]

Not really. Jaina and Rexxar and Co. put a stop to Daelin so that peace would be possible, and it worked for years.

Then along come the Forsaken, and Garrosh, and... well.

They put a stop to Daelin, not every single person that agreed with him. As long as Alliance citizens think this there will be no peace. His actions also ensured that Horde citizens will always view Alliance as the enemy.

The Horde had changed, Daelin just came along and changed it back.

[Bigby]

They put a stop to Daelin, not every single person that agreed with him. As long as Alliance citizens think this there will be no peace. His actions also ensured that Horde citizens will always view Alliance as the enemy.

The Horde had changed, Daelin just came along and changed it back.

If the Horde had truly changed, they'd not be changed back by Daelin. They'd acknowledge he was a spectre from their bloody history and in not taking it further once he was gone.

Hell, look at Garrosh. He never even cites Daelin. He just comes to Azeroth, decides 'all land is orc land' and most of the orcish population love him for it.

The Horde is the school bully who beats up the kids, until they punch him back, then runs crying to the teacher about how mean they are to him and he's the real victim.

[Tarba]

If the Horde had truly changed, they'd not be changed back by Daelin. They'd acknowledge he was a spectre from their bloody history and in not taking it further once he was gone.

Hell, look at Garrosh. He never even cites Daelin. He just comes to Azeroth, decides 'all land is orc land' and most of the orcish population love him for it.

The Horde is the school bully who beats up the kids, until they punch him back, then runs crying to the teacher about how mean they are to him and he's the real victim.

Sounds more like Jaina.
Garrosh wanted war, and he made war. He did not complain.

[Clone]

If the Horde had truly changed, they'd not be changed back by Daelin. They'd acknowledge he was a spectre from their bloody history and in not taking it further once he was gone.

Hell, look at Garrosh. He never even cites Daelin. He just comes to Azeroth, decides 'all land is orc land' and most of the orcish population love him for it.

The Horde is the school bully who beats up the kids, until they punch him back, then runs crying to the teacher about how mean they are to him and he's the real victim.

That's just being false. Lord of Clans and WC3 laid out how they had changed, and Cycle of Hatred mentioned the dissent among both factions that resulted from Daelin's invasion.

The Alliance is the bully in your analogy with their continued provocations, just with a false sense of moral superiority mixed in.

[Deleted]

14.02.2018 and people are still blind faction fanboy?

[Deleted]

“Can your blood atone for genocide, orc?
Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron.
Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily?
No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you.”

— Daelin Proudmoore threatening Thrall.




Poor old man, this truly enlightened and future seer deserved better than his treacherous wench daughter and damn orcs, am I right? ;D

Many humans were pro-genocide of orcs when orcs were defenceless in camps. The Allaince don't have much of a moral high ground.

Also any logic implying 'sins of the father pass to the son' is bullshit in the real world and in fiction

[Bigby]

That's just being false. Lord of Clans and WC3 laid out how they had changed, and Cycle of Hatred mentioned the dissent among both factions that resulted from Daelin's invasion.

The Alliance is the bully in your analogy with their continued provocations, just with a false sense of moral superiority mixed in.

Alliance didn't come to an alien world and start slaughtering the Horde.

Why is it always the Alliance who should be the ones striving for peace when the Horde repeatedly probes them and has shown zero remorse for it's actions? Venerating the guy who enjoys the sound of Stormwind's civilians being tortured as their capital city. You like to cite Daelin, but you don't expect Alliance characters to be just as angry for the years of unprovoked war and slaughter at the Horde's hands? It's the same crap with Anduin now.

Let's look at Vanilla.

Alterac Valley? Frostwolves slaughter unawares Dwarf archeologists.
Arathi Basin? Forsaken want Stromgarde's stuff for reasons.
Warsong Gulch? Horde want the Night Elves turf.

[Tarba]

Alliance didn't come to an alien world and start slaughtering the Horde.

Didn't have to, they had remaining bloodelves in their rank.
Let's praise the saints of the alliance and the Kirin Tor.

And when they don't have them, they have builders they can slaughters instead of paying them

[Pickynerd]

We need some more genocide on those whiny little Alliance bitches. Theramoore clearly wasn't enough.

As an Alliance player, I agree.

[Captain Proton]

Alliance didn't come to an alien world and start slaughtering the Horde.

Why is it always the Alliance who should be the ones striving for peace when the Horde repeatedly probes them and has shown zero remorse for it's actions? Venerating the guy who enjoys the sound of Stormwind's civilians being tortured as their capital city. You like to cite Daelin, but you don't expect Alliance characters to be just as angry for the years of unprovoked war and slaughter at the Horde's hands? It's the same crap with Anduin now.

Let's look at Vanilla.

Alterac Valley? Frostwolves slaughter unawares Dwarf archeologists.
Arathi Basin? Forsaken want Stromgarde's stuff for reasons.
Warsong Gulch? Horde want the Night Elves turf.

It's due to the Alliance races that Orcs came to over to Azeroth. Draenai led the Burning Legion to Draenor and fucked the Orcs. Nightelves also brought the Burning Legion to Azeroth.

Draenai and Nightelves are the true terrors of our worlds.

[Deleted]

Alliance didn't come to an alien world and start slaughtering the Horde.

Yes they did, humans are not azerothian natives and they started killing trolls to steal their lands.

[Tarba]

It's due to the Alliance races that Orcs came to over to Azeroth. Draenai led the Burning Legion to Draenor and fucked the Orcs. Nightelves also brought the Burning Legion to Azeroth.

Draenai and Nightelves are the true terrors of our worlds.

You forgot the humans. One literraly gave birth to Sargeras.

[Deleted]

There was an quest in Pandaria, in the Jade Forest, one of the first you do there, where Alliance Soldiers killed helpess Orcs in the water just for them being orcs and they hate orcs. The Horde Gunship was shot down by Alliance Forces for just being there.

The Alliance shot first often enough, get it kiddies.

[Toppy]

“Can your blood atone for genocide, orc?
Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron.
Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily?
No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you.”

— Daelin Proudmoore threatening Thrall.




Poor old man, this truly enlightened and future seer deserved better than his treacherous wench daughter and damn orcs, am I right? ;D

Where was Daelin when the world was being invaded by demons?