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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Arthur Dayne View Post
    Nope, cats are smart animals, they take out the victim so it won't fight back. Cats can hunt some big prey with lots of bulk muscle horns n what not...best to make sure it stays quiet. A cat will bite you in the neck n ur done.

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    Did that for Iraq n Libya, tried for Syria but then isis would have rolled over everything...who knows what happens if u take out the leader of NK, civil war, way more suffering?

    I don't think these guys are humanists...

    According to a meme u could take them out using a giant magnet
    Thing is Nk has had a hot war since the cease fire in the 50s so the he'll are those medals for?

    Ass licking skill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raelbo View Post
    He's more likely a rhino poacher than a lion poacher.

    I have actually worked on and manned the systems used to detect and track rhino poachers in the KNP. It's a generally pretty grim situation. Those rhino poachers are mostly destitute and desperate people for whom a $5K paycheck (for bringing back a horn) is more than a year's wages.

    Their lives are cheap and they will take insane risks, so stuff like this happens quite a lot. It's just that most of the time no one ever hears about it because if it happens deep in the bush all the evidence is consumed by the animals.

    It would be nice if some of the kingpins behind the poaching syndicates had landed up on the menu.....
    Yeah, all these comments here are like
    "Yeah! Fuck that poacher! Get eaten you greedy bastard!"

    When the reality is, most poachers are poor, uneducated African natives who are hired to do this, and desperation leads them to committing the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    The legal ones are. People still do it illegally you know.
    How easy do you think it is to trophy hunt illegally?

    Like, I get you probably imagine trophy hunters as this rich ass IRL Hemet Nesingwary, but the reality is trophy hunters have to pay a ton of money to do so, and it's barely even a trophy.. just some sick or separated pack animal or an aggressive male threatening the specie's herd (or pride, whatever).

    You think you can just fly to Africa, kill an animal, chop off its head and fly back? You'll go through multiple different customs, hell even flying to Africa with a hunting rifle will require a permit. You'll have to find the animals by yourself without a guide, without a vehicle even (because again, you'll need to have a registered off-road vehicle to go out into the open wilderness. You'll be unsafe as fuck since pretty much everything will be trying to kill you. Then say you kill some 3 ton animal or a 120 pound cheetah, what do you do with it? How do you get your "trophy" all the way back to your country, get it to a taxidermist without them ratting you out (which is a big pay day for them, so I hear).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laozi View Post
    Not really for lions. The odd trophy hunter but they pay to kill it themselves usually legitimately and legally so it's no poaching.

    The poaching of lions is usually done by villagers either through fear of lions attacking there villages or in retaliation to lions stealing there livestock
    Considering all that's left is his head, they might has a legitimate reason to be concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Souls View Post
    Who gives a fuck? By your logic, we should mourn a hitman who gets killed on the job.
    Killing a Lion isn't the same as killing a human. Obviously human life is greater than a Lion's, being sentient and all. Human's have a problem as they tend to humanize animals. It's a Lion, and it'll eat you and shit you out. It doesn't care what your beliefs are or what you think of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Killing a Lion isn't the same as killing a human. Obviously human life is greater than a Lion's, being sentient and all. Human's have a problem as they tend to humanize animals. It's a Lion, and it'll eat you and shit you out. It doesn't care what your beliefs are or what you think of it.
    You clearly have no idea what the word "sentient" means. You should probably look up words in the dictionary before you use them if you're not sure what they mean.

    And the life of an endangered lion is worth much more than the life of some piece of shit poacher.
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    I've stopped talking to random women for any kind of reason. If I see one walking into a store before me, I freeze. I won't move until she's fully inside and on her way. I damn sure won't be having sex with any of them anymore. Thank goodness for porn and masturbation.
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    Nothing wrong with racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Souls View Post
    You clearly have no idea what the word "sentient" means. You should probably look up words in the dictionary before you use them if you're not sure what they mean.
    Ok fine, humans can reason. Though today with AI the word sentient is used to describe intelligence.

    Although the term "sentience" is not among the vocabulary used by major artificial intelligence textbooks and researchers,[8] the term is sometimes used in popular accounts of AI to describe "human level or higher intelligence" (or artificial general intelligence). Many popular accounts of AI confuse sentience with sapience or simply conflate the two concepts. Such use of the term is common in science fiction.
    And the life of an endangered lion is worth much more than the life of some piece of shit poacher.
    No it's not. So many species die every year so there's no point saving Lions. We should not look at human life as something disposable just cause there's so many of us. Us vs them, it's always going to be us. One day the Lion's will die off. Nothing anyone does will stop that. Much like other animals that are a danger to humans, we'll end up killing them off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Ok fine, humans can reason. Though today with AI the word sentient is used to describe intelligence.

    Although the term "sentience" is not among the vocabulary used by major artificial intelligence textbooks and researchers,[8] the term is sometimes used in popular accounts of AI to describe "human level or higher intelligence" (or artificial general intelligence). Many popular accounts of AI confuse sentience with sapience or simply conflate the two concepts. Such use of the term is common in science fiction.

    No it's not. So many species die every year so there's no point saving Lions. We should not look at human life as something disposable just cause there's so many of us. Us vs them, it's always going to be us. One day the Lion's will die off. Nothing anyone does will stop that. Much like other animals that are a danger to humans, we'll end up killing them off.
    The whole purpose of conservation is to protect and expand the populations of species that we have historically persecuted. So no, lions will likely not inevitably be forced into extinction by humans, at least not anytime soon, there are simply too many conservation programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josuke View Post
    European people also fuel the demand of poachers. No reason to be racist.
    Chinese are the worst offendors.
    Why join the navy when you can be a pirate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    The whole purpose of conservation is to protect and expand the populations of species that we have historically persecuted. So no, lions will likely not inevitably be forced into extinction by humans, at least not anytime soon, there are simply too many conservation programs.
    Not anytime soon, but it will happen eventually. If we don't do it intentionally, it'll be accidentally. The biggest concern is who believes the body parts of a Lion offer healing potential? Cause it's those idiots that drive people to kill Lions. Look at the crap people believe in.

    https://lionaid.org/news/2013/10/doe...he-species.htm

    •In South Africa, the Xhosha use lion fat as protective medicines against evil spirits.

    •In Southern Africa, the San Bushmen use lion fat spread on their body to allow them to detect if a lion is near while walking in the bush. The Herero tribe in Namibia and Botswana also use lion fat.

    •In Zimbabwe, lion fat is used to exorcise evil spirits.

    •In Kenya, the Samburu tribe apparently use lion fat to keep away creditors as scent of the fat evokes an aura of fear.

    •In Tanzania, the Gogo tribe in the Dodoma region used lion fat to give themselves courage.

    •In Senegal, lion fat is sold in traditional medicine markets, but the purpose was not disclosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Not anytime soon, but it will happen eventually. If we don't do it intentionally, it'll be accidentally. The biggest concern is who believes the body parts of a Lion offer healing potential? Cause it's those idiots that drive people to kill Lions. Look at the crap people believe in.

    https://lionaid.org/news/2013/10/doe...he-species.htm

    •In South Africa, the Xhosha use lion fat as protective medicines against evil spirits.

    •In Southern Africa, the San Bushmen use lion fat spread on their body to allow them to detect if a lion is near while walking in the bush. The Herero tribe in Namibia and Botswana also use lion fat.

    •In Zimbabwe, lion fat is used to exorcise evil spirits.

    •In Kenya, the Samburu tribe apparently use lion fat to keep away creditors as scent of the fat evokes an aura of fear.

    •In Tanzania, the Gogo tribe in the Dodoma region used lion fat to give themselves courage.

    •In Senegal, lion fat is sold in traditional medicine markets, but the purpose was not disclosed.
    Traditions will modernize, as with what we are seeing in the China right now, cuisine such as Sharkfin Soup and reagents like rhino horn and elephant ivory are facing an extreme crackdown by the Chinese government and the people with these beliefs are being dragged kicking and screaming into modernity.

    An interesting fact to note is that while lions as a whole are declining in Africa, the Asiatic lion seems to be expanding in population. I believe I was reading a while back about how lions were starting to push out of the Gir Forest. Although one must take into account the culture of the natives to that region, they seem to have a great reverence for the lions and from most documentaries that I've watched, there seems to be little to no retaliation for the loss of livestock.

    Ultimately, until advancements like urban elevated farming and cultured meat become widespread, the future of lions and other species will likely be confinement to vest, fenced in wilderness reserves, at least for the next century or two. It could also allow for lions and other predators to recolonize some of their former historic range without being seen as a perceived threat to humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    Its time we teach africans / asians that body parts of protected animals dont make your boner last longer / or whatever they believe it does. Its 2018... and people still believe in magical animals.

    Glad the lion won the duel!
    I wouldn't hold out much hope on that... Its 2018 and the majority of the Western world still believes god sacrificed himself to himself to appease himself, and that "thoughts and prayers" will somehow magically fix things. We should probably start with our own fixation on magical shit before we start telling other people their shit is wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laozi View Post
    Thing is Nk has had a hot war since the cease fire in the 50s so the he'll are those medals for?

    Ass licking skill?
    That guy on the right actually has a 360 no-scope butt licker medal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    Traditions will modernize, as with what we are seeing in the China right now, cuisine such as Sharkfin Soup and reagents like rhino horn and elephant ivory are facing an extreme crackdown by the Chinese government and the people with these beliefs are being dragged kicking and screaming into modernity.
    Hopefully, but Africa doesn't seem to have a single strong country that is pushing this.

    Ultimately, until advancements like urban elevated farming and cultured meat become widespread, the future of lions and other species will likely be confinement to vest, fenced in wilderness reserves, at least for the next century or two. It could also allow for lions and other predators to recolonize some of their former historic range without being seen as a perceived threat to humanity.
    The problem with Lions is they're perceived as dangerous, and because of this they will be hunted. If not for game then for protection. Considering all that's left is his head, this is justified. This isn't the first time humans had nearly killed off something cause it was dangerous. You don't exactly see many wolfs today in America cause they were nearly hunted to extinction. Take a look at the mosquito as we're capable of removing them from the planet. There will be a day when we'll have killed them all off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Hopefully, but Africa doesn't seem to have a single strong country that is pushing this.

    The problem with Lions is they're perceived as dangerous, and because of this they will be hunted. If not for game then for protection. Considering all that's left is his head, this is justified. This isn't the first time humans had nearly killed off something cause it was dangerous. You don't exactly see many wolfs today in America cause they were nearly hunted to extinction. Take a look at the mosquito as we're capable of removing them from the planet. There will be a day when we'll have killed them all off.
    That's one of the benefits of fenced-in wilderness reserves, they substantially lower the conflict between humans and megafauna.

    On the topic of wolves though, they have actually made a pretty great comeback from the 20th century. Gray wolves are actually far less dangerous to humans than perceived. In the history of the US alone the number of recorded wolf-related fatalities can be counted on one hand. Wolves are also spreading back across much of Europe, a wolf even made wandered into Belgium recently.

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