Blizzard hotfixed several faster leveling routes tonight

[MrHappy]

Further proof this change wasn't done because "new people need a better leveling experience" and instead just to make people spend more time leveling for no reason.

If someone has their friend power leveling them through dungeons THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT TO LEVEL FUCKING SLOW.

buy a boost then.

Im actually enjoying my time.
i'm level 32? 33? something like that and that's after few dungeons and completing StoneTalon zone completely and moving on to Desolace.....i probably won't get to tanaris by the time I have to leave the continent....i see no problem.

[Deleted]

When they finally fix questing, people are complaining. Unbelievable. Stop trying to speed run your way to max level and maybe you'll see the enjoyment that is the game. If you don't enjoy it, you might want to ask yourself why you play the game. If the goal isn't to have fun, what is it?

because 80% of this game is end game, alot of people don't care about leveling they want to experience end game current content - either in the form of pve or pvp.

I have all 12 classes at max level, I now need to re-level to get heritage armour for classes im never going to play, do I want it to be as fats a s possible? Hell yeah I probably put in more time than most of the casual people who enjoy leveling.

They could have done the scaling and still left heirlooms untouched, to give people to option to level alot after to do so, but blizzard decided to slow the whole system down for everybody for no reason. I've done my fair share of leveling normally I don't want to do it again.

[Kazuchika]

What does it matter that its 13 year old? There are people coming to wow RIGHT NOW for the first time and you want to ruin their experience because you are lazy? what a dick move.

Why should I give a fuck about the experience of someone coming into an almost decade and a half old game?

How is their experience ruined if they know literally nothing about the game in the first place?

[Phasma]

I love that people are still stupid enough to ask why people don't like levelling in a 13 year old game

I love how people still play a 13 year old game that they clearly dislike and complain about it.

[Deleted]

buy a boost then.

Im actually enjoying my time.
i'm level 32? 33? something like that and that's after few dungeons and completing StoneTalon zone completely and moving on to Desolace.....i probably won't get to tanaris by the time I have to leave the continent....i see no problem.

people would if the thing they wanted from leveling wasn't gated behind it.

you can't 'buy a boost' and get heritage armour, which is the only reason 'most people' are even leveling currently - you guys that enjoy leveling are for the most part the majority.

[Kazuchika]

I love how people still play a 13 year old game that they clearly dislike and complain about it.

Yeah because leveling is literally the only thing to this game right?

Feel free to click the X in the top right corner of your browser instead of posting next time.

[thunderdragon2]

When they finally fix questing, people are complaining. Unbelievable. Stop trying to speed run your way to max level and maybe you'll see the enjoyment that is the game. If you don't enjoy it, you might want to ask yourself why you play the game. If the goal isn't to have fun, what is it?

except the levelling isn't fun, i'm not engaged when i'm levelling if i knew the pre-purchase was coming a week after the levelling changes i would have got my dk to 60 grabbed the professions i wanted on him and waited,

i found levelling this patch more boring and slower then before, increasing mob hp and reducing exp gained doesn't make int interesting for me, and since that was the last class i wanted my boost for pre-purchasing is left there to do nothing

[Deleted]

I love how people still play a 13 year old game that they clearly dislike and complain about it.

disliking one small aspect of the game doesn't mean they dislike the whole game? What kind of strawman is that?

[Phasma]

because 80% of this game is end game, alot of people don't care about leveling they want to experience end game current content - either in the form of pve or pvp.

I have all 12 classes at max level, I now need to re-level to get heritage armour for classes im never going to play, do I want it to be as fats a s possible? Hell yeah I probably put in more time than most of the casual people who enjoy leveling.

They could have done the scaling and still left heirlooms untouched, to give people to option to level alot after to do so, but blizzard decided to slow the whole system down for everybody for no reason. I've done my fair share of leveling normally I don't want to do it again.

These are valid concerns, but then there are always character boosts for this. Also, heritage armor is a reward for leveling an allied race. It's no different than any other reward in the game (or any other game). You put in the time to get something or just don't get it. It's that simple. It's not a requirement for anything, so it isn't needed. You just want it. If you want something, go get it.

Yeah because leveling is literally the only thing to this game right?

Feel free to click the X in the top right corner of your browser instead of posting next time.

Nice straw man argument. 0/10 troll.

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disliking one small aspect of the game doesn't mean they dislike the whole game? What kind of strawman is that?

It's not a small aspect of the game. It's quite a large one. It's working the way it was intended and people want to skip over it. There are ways to do that (i.e. character boosts) and people still complain. That makes me believe they do not like the game.

[ToxicFlame]

I love how people still play a 13 year old game that they clearly dislike and complain about it.

I love, no I am mind-blown by how people think that, just because someone is complaining about a MINOR if not minuscule aspect of the game, it must mean they dislike the entire game.

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When they finally fix questing, people are complaining. Unbelievable. Stop trying to speed run your way to max level and maybe you'll see the enjoyment that is the game. If you don't enjoy it, you might want to ask yourself why you play the game. If the goal isn't to have fun, what is it?

Unbelieveable how you take something soe subjective and try to turn it into a fact.
"When they finally fix questing" by what metric? what are you basing this on? Its completely subjective. Imo they did not fix anything they tried to apply a bandaid, which imo just broke things even more.
"maybe you'll see the enjoyment that is the game"Again, completely subjective. What you enjoy doesn't mean i do. Leveled enough times and played long enough at endgame to assure you that after i did EVERY zone 1-60 there was no more enjoyment for me in leveling and the only reason i am still paying 12€ a month is the engame.
"If you don't enjoy it, you might want to ask yourself why you play the game". I know exactly why i am playing the game and it's definitely not leveling.
"If the goal isn't to have fun, what is it?" Once again, your definition of fun IS NOT THE SAME AS MINE!!! Different person, different tastes!!! don't know how to make this anymore clearer than that. It is definitely to have fun, just my fun isn't the same as your fun and apparently that bothers you for some reason.

[Deadite]

When they finally fix questing, people are complaining. Unbelievable. Stop trying to speed run your way to max level and maybe you'll see the enjoyment that is the game. If you don't enjoy it, you might want to ask yourself why you play the game. If the goal isn't to have fun, what is it?

What if people hate leveling but greatly enjoy the game at max level? Since you rightly point out that the goal is to have fun then you should be applauding them trying to reach max level as fast as possible so they can achieve the goal of having fun.

[Yvese89]

I think archvalor was to blame with his latest video, 3 days after it went live blizzard ''fixed'' the power level thing, He makes damn good videos tho, I like the guy.

Also this leveling threads fascinate me, how some players feel like leveling is ''hell on earth'', they think leveling a character should be a 5 hour time investment and feel like blizzard spent all those months and money designing quest that despair your soul and if you look close enough in the watermark of every quest panel you can almost see the buy boost button.

That's because it IS hell on earth. OLD CONTENT IS OLD. I don't need to see it again, nor do I want to do 90 levels of it for heritage armor. Every new expansion, questing is great because it's NEW. Why is this so hard to grasp? I never did the Invasion leveling but I sure as hell power leveled myself through dungeons for the Void Elf armor. I was going to do it again for Lightforged but that's out the window. Good thing it looks like crap so any small amount of motivation I had is gone.

Why is it so hard to understand a lot of people don't want to do 90 levels of OLD content? Millions of people already went through those zones YEARS ago - the designers already got their time's worth. People want to get to endgame because that's where the bulk of content is.

[Lime]

When they finally fix questing, people are complaining.

Except a lot of people feel like it didn't fix anything. Don't be so simple minded.

You might think it's perfect, but no, you certainly don't speak for everyone.

If you don't enjoy it, you might want to ask yourself why you play the game.

My playtime is 99% endgame content, 1% leveling.

If I asked myself why I play the game, my answer would be those thousands of hours poured into endgame.

[Yarathir]

If you want to get Mage Tower done on all of them, you need to start hurrying up. We are already mid-February and six months is not really a lot of time. I already have every class at 110 but the biggest problem right now is legendaries and time to practice. Even with the new Titan Essence, you need to devote a shit ton of time doing daily/weekly activities that give out Essence.

Agreed, but I won't have free time until next month, really.

[Yvese89]

What does it matter that its 13 year old? There are people coming to wow RIGHT NOW for the first time and you want to ruin their experience because you are lazy? what a dick move.

If I was a new player I'd say NO THANKS to doing ONE-HUNDRED-TEN-LEVELS. Are you kidding me? Good thing Blizzard has that max level boost just calling for new players to pull out their CC.

[Lime]

Nice straw man argument. 0/10 troll.

You clearly don't know what a strawman argument is.

You literally said, "Why play this game if you hate the leveling".
He responded by telling you that there's more to the game than leveling.

[Teri]

hahah so true! At least something is getting done now, I still think heirlooms need more XP buff though. I don't even mind if they don't give you good stats

I would love them just to add the 4 other slots for that, cuz they scale with you, could be 5-10% (20-40%) more XP bonus for those wrist/gloves/belt/boots slots.

But they still gotta fix their (mostly green) quest rewards that give 0 secondary stats (even with scaling) too.

Random BoE drops in Vanilla/BC could be improved as well. We don't need items "of fire resistance/dodge affixes" and even "of the bear/owl/monkey" don't have secondary stats.

[Marmot]

I dunno, leveling before the scaling patch was kinda too fast as it was. I think this is fine.

[ToxicFlame]

I dunno, leveling before the scaling patch was kinda too fast as it was. I think this is fine.

Why not both though?
Difference is, before you had options (not good ones but nonetheless) whereas now you don't.

I would love them just to add the 4 other slots for that, cuz they scale with you, could be 5-10% (20-40%) more XP bonus for those wrist/gloves/belt/boots slots.

For me that would still not be enough to get me to level again, imo it needs to be more or include a trinket or smth that just gives a lot more xp

[Marmot]

Why not both though?
Difference is, before you had options (not good ones but nonetheless) whereas now you don't.

I think the issue right now is blizzard have had to pull off a band aid that has been stuck on with super glue. Really painful to pull off. They knew and pretty much everyone knew leveling up to a certain level was too quick (I personally feel this was 1-60, after that is arguable). Leveling needed to take a little bit longer as it was ridiculous for a long time, but no one wanted to rip that band aid off. People are always going to take the path of least resistance, it is human nature. They're simply eliminating some of those paths for the health of the game in the long run.