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    Quote Originally Posted by tastaron View Post
    I think is reasonable to assume any one who is speaking up for nazis is a supporter of theirs, especially after one of their number just murdered 17 children.

    If you don't want people to be confused, don't defend nazis.
    Taking issue with state sanctioned violence is defending Nazis, apparently.

    But please, do elaborate how a visceral globalist and socialist is a Nazi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    The NRA is just trying to play the good guy. Make some token effort to have everyone go "Oh, even the NRA is on our side now!" and then continue ramping up their sales. I've seen a few statistics on this. Everytime a mass shooting happens, gun sales spike. If I was a little more of a cynical bastard, I'd actually look for a sign "this mass shooting sponsored by the NRA, have a nice day!" somewhere on the shooter.
    Have you seen some of their ads? Not that they're directly responsible for this shooting or anything but that kind of rhetoric is going to influence some vulnerable and/or unstable people (and apparently their emails are even worse).

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    This is supposed to be the white spremicist guy whose group the shooter joined.

    Local law enforcement is saying the shooter isn't a white supremicist, guess we'll wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowmelded View Post
    Have you seen some of their ads? Not that they're directly responsible for this shooting or anything but that kind of rhetoric is going to influence some vulnerable and/or unstable people (and apparently their emails are even worse).
    Not bad, Goebbel's couldn't have twisted it better. They've been good students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tastaron View Post
    I think is reasonable to assume any one who is speaking up for nazis is a supporter of theirs, especially after one of their number just murdered 17 children.

    If you don't want people to be confused, don't defend nazis.
    I really enjoy how quickly the mods just outright figured this was an alt account and banned it, though.

    Subtlety -100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    I really enjoy how quickly the mods just outright figured this was an alt account and banned it, though.

    Subtlety -100
    You can't disguise that kind of meatheadedness. It's a gift.

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    Just ban him perm

    Fuckin shitlord in every thread

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    That many school shootings, not to mention shootings period, and you (America as a whole) still haven't done anything about it?

    Such a shame. Clearly you don't care about the loss of innocent life, unless the atrocity is committed by a Muslim terrorist group.

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    ITT: Republicans start calling for prosecution of thoughtcrimes because that is preferable to putting common sense restrictions on gun availability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGravemind View Post
    If I was in his boots (and forced to join the SS in 1939 or whenever he joined), I would have tried to liberate the camp myself or die trying. He did not. He traded his life for the life of thousands of people, thus he should face the consequences
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    Oh would you now? It truly is amazing how many heroic people we have wasting their time on internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priestiality View Post
    ITT: Republicans start calling for prosecution of thoughtcrimes because that is preferable to putting common sense restrictions on gun availability.
    Elba isn't a republican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player Twelve View Post
    Elba isn't a republican.
    Aren't labels used blindly just the best?!

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    not going to read all 110 pages lol but any conspiracies yet? any but it didnt happen and it has been manufactured by people close to obama to get guns banned? dude has been out of the job for a year and still gets blamed for stuff lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Yes but also a likelihood that those who have them are the ones who are more likely to break the law, and that those who use guns responsibly for things like home/personal defense won't have access to them.
    Shootings since Sandy Hook: 1,608

    Shootings prevented by Good Guys With Guns™: 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player Twelve View Post
    Elba isn't a republican.
    Ghostpanther is. POTUS is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGravemind View Post
    If I was in his boots (and forced to join the SS in 1939 or whenever he joined), I would have tried to liberate the camp myself or die trying. He did not. He traded his life for the life of thousands of people, thus he should face the consequences
    Quote Originally Posted by Proberly View Post
    Oh would you now? It truly is amazing how many heroic people we have wasting their time on internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priestiality View Post
    Shootings since Sandy Hook: infinity
    I fixed that for you.

    I'm not this Elba person that's been spoken of. Sounds trolly. I'm just here to vent.

    I was thinking of visiting the US soon, even after you created the grope-crazy TSA and elected Trump. I will now be scrapping that thought indefinitely.

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    I fixed that for you.

    I'm not this Elba person that's been spoken of. Sounds trolly. I'm just here to vent.

    I was thinking of visiting the US soon, even after you created the grope-crazy TSA and elected Trump. I will now be scrapping that thought indefinitely.
    Geez, how many alt accounts does this guy have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Well we should be talking about them all of the time, because these are serious issues. Bolded: I hope so as it's a non-partisan issue. Melania Trump has chosen to focus on bullying which has been relevant to the motivation of some shooters in the past. Not sure what she's doing besides funding PSA billboards but I'd like to see some mental health legislative reform for sure. Mental health is very expensive from a pure numbers POV due to lost worker productivity. Of course, having a populace with good mental health has benefits that extend well beyond the financial perspective.
    That's never going to happen because this country doesn't give a shit about mental illness. We only ever think about them when they cause trouble for the rest of us, and the only solutions we come up with are ways to keep them out of sight and out of mind so we don't have to think about them anymore. People suddenly starting to genuinely care about mental illness is one of the few things that's even less likely than sweeping gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Clearly the takeaway here is that Americans value their guns over their kids, but okay.
    Not sure how you come to that conclusion. If anything aspects of the government getting in the way of us protecting our kids is the travesty we should take from this. A certain group screams we need gun control. Rules are in place that says guns cannot be allowed on school grounds. Was quite effective in controlling a use of guns on those who obey the rule but did the kid who killed 17 people care about that law? Obviously not and if you are willing to gun down 30 people and casually walk out while getting snacks and something to eat at Mc Donalds before being arrested then I am not sure if anything can be said to show you the logic of how gun control just does not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Geez, how many alt accounts does this guy have?
    Cmon man. You have no proof that it's Elba. He deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macaquerie View Post
    That's never going to happen because this country doesn't give a shit about mental illness. We only ever think about them when they cause trouble for the rest of us, and the only solutions we come up with are ways to keep them out of sight and out of mind so we don't have to think about them anymore. People suddenly starting to genuinely care about mental illness is one of the few things that's even less likely than sweeping gun control.
    No, Republicans only care about mental healthcare when it threatens their precious guns, and by proxy NRA blood money. When there isn't a major media spotlight on mentally ill mass murderers they quietly cut funding to mental healthcare services, and roll-back laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. By the way, the White House refuses to release a photo of Trump signing it, which is odd considering he loved making a media circus out of signing shit that wasn't even binding, like memos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGravemind View Post
    If I was in his boots (and forced to join the SS in 1939 or whenever he joined), I would have tried to liberate the camp myself or die trying. He did not. He traded his life for the life of thousands of people, thus he should face the consequences
    Quote Originally Posted by Proberly View Post
    Oh would you now? It truly is amazing how many heroic people we have wasting their time on internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennis View Post
    Cmon man. You have no proof that it's Elba. He deserves the benefit of the doubt.
    Normally I wouldn't, but the denial was too quick. :P
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