And that system has been proven to be Horrible you're telling me it's a True Republic now because it only helped Smaller Populations 5 out of 45 times?
And what about the Republicans in California or the Democrats in Texas, what about them? If it's truly about giving Lower Populated Democrats and Republicans a say, then it has Failed tremendously.
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Suggesting another forum user commit suicide! Classy.
No, it really didn't. If anything, today's indictments strengthened the anti-Trump position by making it clear that Russia did, in fact, meddle with the 2016 election, something that Manchurian Orange has consistently denied. That's a necessary framework for the future; it makes it harder for people to take Trump seriously when he tries to pretend it never happened.
And hey, he got banned while I was typing this. Awesome.
Do your politics include shoddy administration and highly unethical and downright corrupt behavior?
Obama wasn't a 'great' president, but he was a competent administrator and a decent individual.
But I forget myself; you and your kind are diametrically opposed to good governance.
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“You're not to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who does it or says it.”― Malcolm X
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I never said anything different. My point, that you seem to be missing, is that this is obviously a very specific grouping of crimes. I'm NOT saying these are the last indictments or the end of the investigation. I'm saying that this is a very specific grouping, where they said no Americans were involved, (within this very specific grouping of indictments). Then the posters run with conspiracy theories of future indictments, WITHIN this very specific grouping. It would be one thing to say, "Ok, well this doesn't exonerate the Trumps of other crimes, unrelated to this very specific grouping." But what they are saying, is that this is evidence to something that the Deputy just said got done saying isn't a thing.
Do you follow me? I'm not saying it's crazy talk that there may some day be something like a campaign money laundering indictment. I'm saying it's pretty nuts to read this news story, and come away with the idea that there are future indictments coming, related to social media and internet trolls. They don't generally indict 13 people in a conspiracy, only to then add in folks later. I'm not saying that can't happen. I'm just saying it seem pretty fucking unlikely.
That was hard to explain. I wish I was better at words.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
What’s wrong with his argument? It’s just 2 people pleading guilty.... It’s just two indictments... now there are just 15 indictments... but, that’s it... nothing else is coming.
You are not interested in reading about mid 30s German history... in the Muller investigation thread... again? It’s like a ritual every 10 pages...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...416509?cid=apn
Not related to the campaign specifically, but Mueller found another instance of alleged bank fraud from Manafort in 2016, apparently.
Busy Friday.
There's a reason Trump won't get involved, because he'll be found out.
Do you not get that its only THESE indictments, not future ones, right? Besides we already have some Americans indicted with this investigation.
He could indict Trump and you'd still be ready to bow down and die for him.
You mean like how you see indictments and plea deals and think Mueller has nothing? You mean like how you see more and more info from these plea deals leading to Trump and ignore them? You mean like how you think Trump isn't gaining from going to his own properties?
Like your reasoning that a president strictly made to make a group of people mad? Pot meet kettle.
Yeah guys, Trump hasn't done anything wrong. He just paid $130k in hush money to a stripper using campaign funds, obstructed justice at least once and tried to do it multiple times, and sided with a foreign nation to become president. Why that's just like jay walking and no one goes to jail for that anymore in this day and age. Obstruction and collusion are victimless crimes.
That's literally not what is said. In fact the GOP has come out saying that this definitely means Trump worked with Russia.
Yet again another zealot thinking that these things don't take time. This isn't an episode of Scooby Doo where it ends in 30 minutes, this takes years. What do you not get about that? Watergate took two years and this could potentially be longer to figure it all out, but why am I not surprised you don't want Trump investigated. Hell, if Trump is so innocent how come he's tried to stop it so much? None of you have EVER been able to answer that, and you can't because it means it changes your world view of an obviously corrupt man and his cronies.
You think these will be the last of the indictments? Really?
Holy shit. You really think Obama is in any way as bad as Trump? Hell, Bush wasn't as bad as Trump. Any rational person would take him back in a heartbeat.
Yes, he is, and people like you constantly have to do the whole "what he meant was" every day to make up for a man with a weaker grasp of grammar than a first grader.
He won't speak with him because Trump is a chicken shit. Also, lol he has good lawyers. He literally had one end a NDA agreement and admitting $130k in hush money to a hooker.
His lawyers don't want him to speak to Mueller because Trump will absolutely shoot himself in the foot and in the face trying to weave more lies that will put him in a deeper hole than he is already.
Again, if Trump was so innocent then there would be no worry of this. If he was so pure like you seem to think then why stop him? Could it be that he is guilty and they don't want him going to jail? Naw, that can't be it, it must be because Mueller is really mean and will ask him questions with more than six words in them.
Ah, classic Tijuana, always playing the victim.
At least those people aren't supporting Nazis like Trump and Hitler.
So now, to enact your form of vengeance you support a man that supports nazis, gives campaign money to hookers to shut them up, colludes with foreign governments, and gives a giant check to businesses that don't need it under the pretense of helping the average American.
You have some messed up morals if Obama didn't match yours.
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