Main thread: No Zandalari Paladins?

[Castrum]

Why are people still arguing about this? The trolls and Allicucks don't want to see it happen, people with sense do. Simple enough.

[DrMcNinja]

Why are people still arguing about this? The trolls and Allicucks don't want to see it happen, people with sense do. Simple enough.

And the horde population that likes to see less elves everywhere.

[Miake]

in what way do they not make sense? considering they exist in the game

where is your evidence of them existing in game?

[frogger237]

Except that each time Zandalaries appeared they had connection to paladins, or had mobs that used paladin abilities.
In Vanilla they had freethinkers (though I agree that on that we could argue that it doesn't sound like a class, and it could've been dsimissed)
in Cata they had Juggrnauts, a heavy warriors that used Holy spells.
and in ToT we had Prelates. The most paladin-like mob.

I'm just pointing out that there is a record of Zandalari hacing warriors that use spells from Holy school of magic. Therefore paladin class fits their theme.

Freethinkers.

Freethinkers only existed because they needed a reason for int plate. Take a look at all the other mobs in the game and you will see several mobs in the game that have spells that are class like for classes that race doesn't have lore wise.

[Ramz]

Freethinkers only existed because they needed a reason for int plate. Take a look at all the other mobs in the game and you will see several mobs in the game that have spells that are class like for classes that race doesn't have lore wise.

It's as I said this could've been ignored if this trend would not continue, but it did in cataclysm and in MoP so I consider this option viable.

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where is your evidence of them existing in game?

It's not really that hard to find it in this thread, people posted it multiple times.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=69927/zan...late#abilities

[Kathranis]

where is your evidence of them existing in game?

Zandalari Prelates in Throne of Thunder used paladin abilities, and the quests to obtain the Freethinker's Armor paladin class set from Zul'Gurub in Classic tells the story of the Zandalari Freethinkers, which are implied to be an order of "heathens" who wielded the Light rather than worshipping the Loa, who were respected highly in Zandalari society for opposing the Gurubashi and maintaining their faith in battle and exile.

[Khirok]

Stop beggin for Zandalari paladins. They don't even fit the Paladin theme/aesthetic.

[Syegfryed]

It's not really that hard to find it in this thread, people posted it multiple times.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=69927/zan...late#abilities

He will say it doesn't count, and start all over again the same thing of old pages

Some people can't just see the obvious

[Ramz]

Stop beggin for Zandalari paladins. They don't even fit the Paladin theme/aesthetic.

They fit for their own aesthethic, I'd even say that they would be the best looking paladin on Horde.

[Khirok]

They fit for their own aesthethic, I'd even say that they would be the best looking paladin on Horde.

Paladins are users of the Holy light after the human way/traditions. Tauren Shamans are bad enough. Zandalari have nothing connecting them to the Holy Light like Alliance and Belf paladins have.

[Psykho]

Paladins are users of the Holy light after the human way/traditions. Tauren Shamans are bad enough. Zandalari have nothing connecting them to the Holy Light like Alliance and Belf paladins have.

The Loa give abilities similar to paladins, Zandalari are closer to Paladins then tauren

[zito]

Paladins are users of the Holy light after the human way/traditions. Tauren Shamans are bad enough. Zandalari have nothing connecting them to the Holy Light like Alliance and Belf paladins have.

No, the game MECHANICS use the holy light version of humans. Lore wise each race uses the holy light in a unique way. Blood elves don't follow human traditions they have the sunwell, tauren have anshe or however you spell it and trolls have the loa

[Khirok]

No, the game MECHANICS use the holy light version of humans. Lore wise each race uses the holy light in a unique way. Blood elves don't follow human traditions they have the sunwell, tauren have anshe or however you spell it and trolls have the loa

Right now the Blood Elves Paladins are pretty much Human Paladins in red armor.

[Syegfryed]

Paladins are users of the Holy light after the human way/traditions. .

Except they aren't

[Khirok]

Except they aren't

Just look at the spell names. Those are all named in the style of the human Paladins from Warcraft 3.

[Poppets]

Paladins are users of the Holy light after the human way/traditions. Tauren Shamans are bad enough. Zandalari have nothing connecting them to the Holy Light like Alliance and Belf paladins have.

I just want to say. That WoW's take on the paladin class is not the same as real world human tradition (just in case you're still having an issue with that concept). If that was the case the draenei, taurens and blood elves would not be paladins. They our fighters or the "light", whatever that "light" might be. For the spacegoats its naaru. For bloodelves it was at first a twisted notion of nobleness and a bending of the light to one's will, since the cleansing of the sunwell its more in line with the spacegoats than the humans idea of "holy light". Taurens worship not just the sun, but An'she the right eye. It is a god to them, just as whatever the humans worship is their god which gives them access to holy powers. The trolls worship loas ie gods. This is their route to holy powers. Your notion of it has to be this way or its the wrong way its archaic.

It akin to comparing superheroes, Iron Man isnt a super hero cuz hes just a guy in a super suit, but Superman is because he has superpowers. Fact of the matter, how one attains special powers has no relevance when it comes to the fact they still have them.

Also this isn't Warcraft 3 get over it.

[Syegfryed]

Just look at the spell names. Those are all named in the style of the human Paladins from Warcraft 3.

this is because gameplay mechanics, don't be dumb

[Traveler Voltin]

when did paladins become the special snowflake class that no one is allowed to touch?

[Larynx]

I just want to say. That WoW's take on the paladin class is not the same as real world human tradition (just in case you're still having an issue with that concept). If that was the case the draenei, taurens and blood elves would not be paladins. They our fighters or the "light", whatever that "light" might be. For the spacegoats its naaru. For bloodelves it was at first a twisted notion of nobleness and a bending of the light to one's will, since the cleansing of the sunwell its more in line with the spacegoats than the humans idea of "holy light". Taurens worship not just the sun, but An'she the right eye. It is a god to them, just as whatever the humans worship is their god which gives them access to holy powers. The trolls worship loas ie gods. This is their route to holy powers. Your notion of it has to be this way or its the wrong way its archaic.

It akin to comparing superheroes, Iron Man isnt a super hero cuz hes just a guy in a super suit, but Superman is because he has superpowers. Fact of the matter, how one attains special powers has no relevance when it comes to the fact they still have them.

Also this isn't Warcraft 3 get over it.

Every Paladin gets their magic from the light. Blood Elves and Draenei do not use some weird intermediaries like the Sunwell or Naaru. They use the light in the same way a human or dwarf does.

The only ones which are unique are tauren, and they're an utter lore disaster, so let's not make another one. An'she = solar powers = holy light? Who else uses An'she? Oh right, druids. Do druids channel solar/life magic or do they channel holy magic? Are tauren paladins actually paladins or just solar druids with swords? It doesn't make any sense, and this dumb loa paladin nonsense is just going to confuse the issue further (seeing as how loa are literally Wild Gods aka more Life magic).

Zandalari holy priests are fine, because gameplay aside, priest is a catch all term and encompasses a very broad range of magic users. Loa witchdoctors, Priestesses of the Moon, soul priests, Gnomish medicine, human holy magic, etc.

Paladins are more than just priests with swords, and that's the problem. Every Paladin belongs to a specific and unique order of Paladins, and if you're not a part of that order, you're still just a priest like Anduin. Loa priests don't matter because priests as a class don't have a consistent fantasy, but paladins do. I'd prefer the lore and class fantasy not be completely butchered for the sake of a few fanboys that don't like blood elves.

[ChairmanKaga]

Every Paladin gets their magic from the light. Blood Elves... do not use some weird intermediaries like the Sunwell .

Yeah.......