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    The Nordic people are way way older than 10,000 years old. We settled Sweden before the ice age.

    Cultural marxists love this kind of news though. Like how all of the sudden sometimes in the early 90's it was decided that out of Africa theory should be the only one taught in all schools although the whole theory is full of huge gaping holes.

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    I think anyone knows by now most humans were darker skinned to start with, and environmental aspects caused skin tones to evolve and change over long periods
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    Quote Originally Posted by broods View Post
    Cultural marxists love this kind of news though. Like how all of the sudden sometimes in the early 90's it was decided that out of Africa theory should be the only one taught in all schools although the whole theory is full of huge gaping holes.
    It's the only theory that's taught because it's the only one with any actual evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    I think it's more of a perception that modern humans have always mostly looked how we look now.
    I think that's more a perception from the ignorant... Most people with basic understanding of evolution and history would already know the first Europeans looked very little like modern Europeans

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    I’d be curious about what caused the evolution towards lighter skin. I’m assuming darker skin provides some protection from the sun and so it’s more necessary in the south, but people still get burned up north all the time.
    Current popular theory is to do with less sun and white skin being better at getting in vitamin D it also explains why Europeans suddenly started drinking other animals milk and thus evolved much Lower rates of lactose intolerance.

    Human evolution Is an interesting area of study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    I think that's more a perception from the ignorant... Most people with basic understanding of evolution and history would already know the first Europeans looked very little like modern Europeans
    The magic of evolution. Hell if we had all remains separate for long enough we may well all have diverged into separate speaces over enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moadar View Post
    Wonder how many generations it takes for changes like this to happen. Would all black people in northern countries turn white and all white people in Africa turn black in a few thousand years even if they only bred with others of the same color?
    Theoretically yes eventually. Though the time it takes is debated. Which is the point of the article it's nouthing revolutionary that the ancestors of Europeans were dark skinned and blue eyed we all ready knew that. They big? Is when did they start to change to white and how long did it take.

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    I already knew to a degree that the first anatomically modern humans in Western Eurasia (Europe/Middle East) had darker skin up until a few thousand years ago. I think it's interesting to look back and see how our ancestors physically differed from us while still being modern humans.

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    Yes this is pritty old news.

    Dosent really change anything about anything though. Race might be the hot topic in America right now but for Britain and Europe it's culture and religion that's getting people all agitated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    It's the only theory that's taught because it's the only one with any actual evidence.
    What evidence? The one corpse? In that case there is about as much evidence for any of the other theories not to mention the gaping holes in the out of Africa theory like how did early man even leave the African continent? Did they build ships and then forgot all about shipbuilding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    It's not an anomaly. It's an adaptation to low light environments. As an example of convergent evolution the genes responsible for light skin among Asians is different than the one among Europeans.
    No, it's just that melanin deficient people didn't die up north. It's a regressive gene, as I understand it.

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    So did all the light skinned ones kill the dark skinned ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by broods View Post
    What evidence? The one corpse? In that case there is about as much evidence for any of the other theories.
    If you conveniently ignore the ream of mitochondrial DNA evidence supporting a recent African origin for modern humans, sure.

    Leave science to the technocrats, sweetheart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broods View Post
    What evidence? The one corpse? In that case there is about as much evidence for any of the other theories not to mention the gaping holes in the out of Africa theory like how did early man even leave the African continent? Did they build ships and then forgot all about shipbuilding?
    WTF are you talking about. Look at a map you can see how it is possible to migrate over all of Africa/Asia/Europe just on foot or with simple rafts. Add in sea level changes from the ice age and you can even get land bridges that don't exist on todays globe. When you are talking about generations of time, each individual family only has to migrate a small part of the way and it will add up to covering the entire continent in a few thousand years at most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broods View Post
    What evidence? The one corpse? In that case there is about as much evidence for any of the other theories not to mention the gaping holes in the out of Africa theory like how did early man even leave the African continent? Did they build ships and then forgot all about shipbuilding?
    You realize that Africa isn't an island, right?

    They walked.

    Also, yes, boats. Australia didn't get settled by people who swam there. Skeletal remains in Australia put human arrival at least 40,000 years ago, and other evidence (human artifacts) push that back to arguably 65,000 years ago or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broods View Post
    In that case there is about as much evidence for any of the other theories
    Only in your crazy head buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broods View Post
    What evidence? The one corpse? In that case there is about as much evidence for any of the other theories not to mention the gaping holes in the out of Africa theory like how did early man even leave the African continent? Did they build ships and then forgot all about shipbuilding?
    I had no idea this was a thing people were confused about. Even ignoring the fact that short range dugout canoes have been a thing since the Stone Age, they left largely by... walking. Most of the continents were accessible by foot during various periods of time due to glaciation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nnelson54 View Post
    I had no idea this was a thing people were confused about. Even ignoring the fact that short range dugout canoes have been a thing since the Stone Age, they left largely by... walking. Most of the continents were accessible by foot during various periods of time due to glaciation.
    Replace "confused" with "disagree with because it puts holes in their racist worldview".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Replace "confused" with "disagree with because it puts holes in their racist worldview".
    Right. Opposition to the Out-of-Africa theory basically boils down to people who don't want to admit that they're cousins to Africans, but want to pretend that they evolved as a distinct and unrelated subspecies. It's pretty blatantly racist.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Laozi View Post
    Yes this is pritty old news.

    Dosent really change anything about anything though. Race might be the hot topic in America right now but for Britain and Europe it's culture and religion that's getting people all agitated.
    No, it isn't just culture and religion. Ethnicity is a thing too in addition to culture and religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Player Twelve View Post
    No, it isn't just culture and religion. Ethnicity is a thing too in addition to culture and religion.
    As I live here. I can vouch the majority of people haven't given a fuck about skin colour since the 70s.

    The last protest that pissed me off shouting out side my window was pritty specific in being anti Islam. Which is a religion not a race. You can be any race and join if you want.

    I know this because I had to listen to them.... For 3.... Fucking... Hour's. At this rate I'm voting for who ever has peace and quite on the manifesto.

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    We evolve based on our surroundings. Less indoor shelter = more exposure to sunlight = more melanin/pigment production in skin = darker skin. I don't really see this as news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laozi View Post
    As I live here. I can vouch the majority of people haven't given a fuck about skin colour since the 70s.

    The last protest that pissed me off shouting out side my window was pritty specific in being anti Islam. Which is a religion not a race. You can be any race and join if you want.

    I know this because I had to listen to them.... For 3.... Fucking... Hour's. At this rate I'm voting for who ever has peace and quite on the manifesto.
    Guess what? I live in Europe too. Sweden specifically.

    I said ethnicity, which has little to do with skin color although different ethnicities could have a different skin color. There's widespread dislike for various ethnicities in European countries that is not about culture or religion but the fact that they're part of the disliked ethnicity, even if they adhere to the majority culture in the country they are in, even if they're protestant/catholic/orthodox christian or non-believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broods View Post
    What evidence? The one corpse? In that case there is about as much evidence for any of the other theories not to mention the gaping holes in the out of Africa theory like how did early man even leave the African continent? Did they build ships and then forgot all about shipbuilding?
    We know how humans left Africa and almost the exact migration patterns humanity took due to Mitochondrial DNA.

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