Early Briton Had Dark Skin and Light Eyes

[Zeta333]

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I already knew to a degree that the first anatomically modern humans in Western Eurasia (Europe/Middle East) had darker skin up until a few thousand years ago. I think it's interesting to look back and see how our ancestors physically differed from us while still being modern humans.

@Connal @Theodarzna

Next your gona tell us jesus wasnt white.

[Deleted]

Because there was no Mediterranean Sea. It didn't flood until about 5.3 million years ago, the Zanclean Deluge.

There was a sea, or several, as the rivers flowed into the basin. But it was continually desiccating. Crete was joined to the Greek peninsula, but I'm not sure if it connected entirely to the African coast.

[Wolfman31]

Fake science, the original fake news!

[Elegiac]

There was a sea, or several, as the rivers flowed into the basin. But it was continually desiccating. Crete was joined to the Greek peninsula, but I'm not sure if it connected entirely to the African coast.

I believe based on reconstructions Crete was connected to the Greek mainland by dry land.

[Techno-Druid]

There was a sea, or several, as the rivers flowed into the basin. But it was continually desiccating. Crete was joined to the Greek peninsula, but I'm not sure if it connected entirely to the African coast.

Africa is connected to Eurasia through the Sinai Peninsula, there's also the Bab al Mandab Strait between Yemen and Djibouti, which was likely low enough during a glacial period for humans to raft if not swim across.

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Fake science, the original fake news!

Fake science or science you don't agree with?

[Macaquerie]

I'm surprised this article isn't garnishing more outrage, it's pretty problematic to suggest white brits are evolved from black people.

Well despite what people might generally think, more highly evolved doesn't necessarily mean better. People moving into Europe adapted to better suit the conditions of their local environment, but these mutations also made them less suited to live in tropical environments.

[The Penguin]

Not to be that guy, but I think its more than that. It has to do with anatomical differences of the skull and certain traits such as hair. Even if you gave white people dark skin, you would still differentiate them from blacks. In the same manner you can easily differentiate an african albino from a white person. There's just some things that cannot be changed and will always lead to confrontation.

As long as people tolerate that sort of confrontation instead of calling it out, yes it will happen. My point is that if a group of white people beat up a black person, it's seen as racial hatred. You might see a load of white people even come to the defense of the person being attacked. Contrast that now with a group of black people beating up a white person. Most of the time the blacks start whooping and cheering and saying "kick that crackah's ass!". It is glorified, though it is also racial hatred.

There is a common theory that these groups exist soly to spread division and unrest for political gain on the narrative and that if society actually moved on from this increasingly vapid topic there wouldent be any need for these groups and they would lose there jobs.

But that's just a theory like the charity's working to keep dictators and power and africa poor so they can keep collecting donations and skiing there pay packets of the top for admin fees ofc

But that's all wild speculation and those whistle blowers are just nazi's they some how hired.

I tend to agree. Watch the movie Coonskin sometime. Brother Rabbit vs. The Reverend really sums this issue up well.

The greedy "Reverend" asks for money. "Dese weapons ya gonna buy.. are they for the revolution against whitey?"
The Reverend smugly smiles. "Sure they is boy. Sure they is."

[Svifnymr]

As long as people tolerate that sort of confrontation instead of calling it out, yes it will happen. My point is that if a group of white people beat up a black person, it's seen as racial hatred. You might see a load of white people even come to the defense of the person being attacked. Contrast that now with a group of black people beating up a white person. Most of the time the blacks start whooping and cheering and saying "kick that crackah's ass!". It is glorified, though it is also racial hatred.

Sometimes when I stop shoplifters that happen to be black, they insult me. It's sort of funny though, they can call me "cracker" and sometimes "white devil", but I just find it hilarious. White Devil, just... classic.

But, racism topics are not allowed, and none of this has to do with ancestral evolution. If you formed a hole in time that let these people peer through to the ancient days of yore, they would still not change their mind on what they already thought. I never did get any answer as to how dark this "dark skin" is though. There's a wide range of skin tones among "Africans" and the buzzwords usually differentiate "brown" people as middle eastern or Hindi from "black" people, even if the black person is lighter skinned. Are Arab people considered brown caucasians? or Africans?

I guess it's easier for the racists, if they're Not You, you can hate them.

[Deleted]

I find this entire Story kind of pointless to be honest. I learnt when I was like 7 years old that Africa was considered the cradle of Human Beings as a species. Why would people be surprised that at one point People that lived on an Island that was likely easy to cross over to during the Ice Age had a Dark Skin tone.

it's like well no shit, they would've been Darker and changed over time as they lived in a more northern region of the Hemisphere. Seems like race-baiting We wuz kangz and shiet stuff tbh.

It's more people spread across Europe before their skin adapted to the environment. If anything I take it as a story about the speed which humanity spread.

[The Penguin]

But, racism topics are not allowed, and none of this has to do with ancestral evolution.

Are you fishing for a excuse to get people infracted or something? Apparently responding to other posters is now 'racism' topics.

Right then.

[Mormolyce]

I'm surprised this article isn't garnishing more outrage, it's pretty problematic to suggest white brits are evolved from black people.

To be honest that's a flaw in the popular conception of "evolution" as a linear path.

As long as people tolerate that sort of confrontation instead of calling it out, yes it will happen. My point is that if a group of white people beat up a black person, it's seen as racial hatred. You might see a load of white people even come to the defense of the person being attacked. Contrast that now with a group of black people beating up a white person. Most of the time the blacks start whooping and cheering and saying "kick that crackah's ass!". It is glorified, though it is also racial hatred.

So... you have an example of a bunch of black people beating up a white person being glorified?

Or is this just another totally-not-racist fever dream?

Are you fishing for a excuse to get people infracted or something? Apparently responding to other posters is now 'racism' topics.

Right then.

Bolds the words "racial hatred" in his own post, claims he wasn't talking about racism.

LOL.

[Stelio Kontos]

I'm surprised this article isn't garnishing more outrage, it's pretty problematic to suggest white brits are evolved from black people.

I've worked at a bar on a Greek beach and saw plenty of British tourists. Nothing evolved there. I'd take the Nigerian neighbor I had over any of the chavs or other various miscreants I regularly had to throw out like so much trash.

[Paetolus]

Not super surprising, it is interesting how relatively quickly that changed though, 10,000 seems like, to me at least, a very short amount of time.

[Kuntantee]

Europeans and their obsession with skin color

[Svifnymr]

Are you fishing for a excuse to get people infracted or something? Apparently responding to other posters is now 'racism' topics.

Right then.

Not at all, otherwise I'd just report you. I just didn't want the topic to drift too far down that path or it might get closed.

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To be honest that's a flaw in the popular conception of "evolution" as a linear path.

There's also the problem that fossilization and such are very very rare. Millions of years, countless animals, but the conditions have to be right to preserve any information that we can then use now. Maybe humans started in Panama, but none of the signs were preserved, we can only make educated guesses based on the evidence.

I think it was Sagan who said something like "there may be a god, but if we just default to saying everything is from god, we'll never question anything. The only way to advance is to examine the evidence."

So... you have an example of a bunch of black people beating up a white person being glorified?

Er, just hit youtube and you'll find a bunch of videos. There is no way to say that it's racism or not, like the muslim girl beat up by 3-4 black girls with them all screaming racist things. Apparently it was over some guy. Screaming racist insults might mean you're racist, but doesn't mean the assault is due to racism.

You just have to go to school in a mixed race setting to see it, and now youtube provides a window to the stupidity.

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Europeans and their obsession with skin color

Humanity...
Europeans were probably kicked out of Africa for being too pale. :-p

[Player Twelve]

Europeans and their obsession with skin color

Almost nobody cares about skin color yet you have continuously tried to claim that europeans are obsessed with skin color. Sounds like projecting on your part at this point.

[Kuntantee]

Almost nobody cares about skin color yet you have continuously tried to claim that europeans are obsessed with skin color. Sounds like projecting on your part at this point.

Existence of this thread, and perception of article being informative, and people actually publishing it is empirical evidence. We do not hear news about the evolution of the skin color of wild cats, do we?

You would be laughed off in certain parts of the world with an article like this.

The term "white race" or "white people" entered the major European languages in the later 17th century, originating with the racialization of slavery at the time, in the context of the Atlantic slave trade[11]

In the 18th and 19th century, racialist written works proposed geographically based "scientific" differences among "the races." Many of these racial models assigned colors to the groups described, and some included a "brown race" as in the following:

Not all cultures differentiate people based on skin color, mind you. We do not have these concepts in Turkish language.

[warlordoflordwar]

So they invent some new method of analyzing dna on one skeleton and their conclusion is that EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH had dark skin up until 10,000 years ago!
Despite the fact that modern europeans are descendants of neaderthals who was light skinned and blode haired long before that, and that we have remains from 9000 years ago with light skin. from black to white in 1000 years?
WHat if it turns out that their new method is flawed, and they are wrong? WHat if he was an immigrant from elsewhere?
I mean it's kind of funny to say "skin color doesn't matter" and then use this to claim "we are all africans".

[Vanyali]

So they invent some new method of analyzing dna on one skeleton and their conclusion is that EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH had dark skin up until 10,000 years ago!
Despite the fact that modern europeans are descendants of neaderthals who was light skinned and blode haired long before that, and that we have remains from 9000 years ago with light skin. from black to white in 1000 years?
WHat if it turns out that their new method is flawed, and they are wrong? WHat if he was an immigrant from elsewhere?
I mean it's kind of funny to say "skin color doesn't matter" and then use this to claim "we are all africans".

Nothing in this post is accurate.

Which isn't surprising from an alt account, but hey, you tried.

[Machismo]

So they invent some new method of analyzing dna on one skeleton and their conclusion is that EVERY HUMAN ON EARTH had dark skin up until 10,000 years ago!
Despite the fact that modern europeans are descendants of neaderthals who was light skinned and blode haired long before that, and that we have remains from 9000 years ago with light skin. from black to white in 1000 years?
WHat if it turns out that their new method is flawed, and they are wrong? WHat if he was an immigrant from elsewhere?
I mean it's kind of funny to say "skin color doesn't matter" and then use this to claim "we are all africans".

Do you have any evidence to back up all of those assertions?