The Brexit aftermath thread

[NED funded]

Something something, no one has invaded use since the 17th century, something something we won the world wars?

TBF Europeans have a weird habit of going authoritarian from time to time.

[Slant]

What tyranny?

You know, the usual "we improve consumer protection" and "let's teach those big corps a lesson about exploiting the market" kind of tyranny. You can easily distinguish it from other forms of Government by the disgustingly democratic approach it takes, the horrible peace it brings and the decadent prosperity it spreads. Just look at how it shockingly endorses solidarity and inclusion rather than egoism and isolationism. That kind of tyranny. A vile form of managing a continent if ever I've seen one.

I'm ashamed to be forced to live in this most oppressive of all regimes. I regret having been born into this shithole of the planet. I truly do.

</sarcasm> for the mentally challenged.

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Yup, the Troubles will be back on. And watch as the Tories blame the EU for them for the next couple of decades.

Looking forward to it. I quite enjoy the delicate taste of Brexiteerstears. It's a funny word, too. Brexiteerstears. I'll keep saying it for a while, because it amuses me.

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Can someone make sense out of this? ^^

Yeah. He thinks there's no foreign soldier on UK soil. Watch what happens when he finds out what NATO is all about.

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Nah, he needs to go to ALL CAPS SCREAMING by the final act, so he needs to stay on track.

Wait, we have to endure this for at least another year? Well, I say endure... and yet I have popcorn at the ready whenever I visit this thread...

[Kallisto]

You know, the usual "we improve consumer protection" and "let's teach those big corps a lesson about exploiting the market" kind of tyranny. You can easily distinguish it from other forms of Government by the disgustingly democratic approach it takes, the horrible peace it brings and the decadent prosperity it spreads. Just look at how it shockingly endorses solidarity and inclusion rather than egoism and isolationism. That kind of tyranny. A vile form of managing a continent if ever I've seen one.

I'm ashamed to be forced to live in this most oppressive of all regimes. I regret having been born into this shithole of the planet. I truly do.

</sarcasm> for the mentally challenged.

Sad thing is it is a so called socialist that actually said "EU Tyranny" about these things. Like these kind of regulations should be things he wants.

[Mormolyce]

Why do we need to invade when we already occupy large swathes of EU land and will continue to do so post Brexit? Sleep well tonight Eurochums comforted by the bosomy protection of mother Britain. One day you will mature, perhaps pushed by the Brexit example, be able to stand on your own feet. Let us show you how to do it, watch listen and learn child of the EU. It's time for you to grow up.

And... you're definitely not a satire account?

P.S. You'll be feeling the EU's own feet firmly planted in your arse pretty damn soon.

Cute. By the way your picture, squeezed as it is looks more like fixing tape than toilet paper.

Speaking of which, does he not know how to use the crop tool? It looks like someone using the wrong size wallpaper in Windows and set it to "stretch" (P.S. why was that ever even an option?).

[Mayhem]

Isn't it pitiful that the EU doesn't figure in that table at all?

Why should it? Its a list of countries.

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Brexiteers keep giving speeches and telling us what Brexit won't be, but don't give any detail on what it will be.

Fucking ideologues.

[Demolitia]

Brexiteers keep giving speeches and telling us what Brexit won't be, but don't give any detail on what it will be.

Fucking ideologues.

Incoming UK Age of Faith based policies. What could go wrong.

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Incoming UK Age of Faith based policies. What could go wrong.

It shows the complacency towards politics from the public that has allowed careerist middle managers with no more quality or specialisation than that of the average man on the street to rise to power.

One thing this country needs is radical engagement.

[Demolitia]

TBF Europeans have a weird habit of going authoritarian from time to time.

You're right, we really are barbarians and idiots.
Isn't the main reason your islands are almost united that by 1700 your royal families were so inbred one guy eventually inherited all the crowns?
I guess we weren't as lucky, we just had too many royal families scattered over the continent.

[NED funded]

You're right, we really are barbarians and idiots.
Isn't the main reason your islands are almost united that by 1700 your royal families were so inbred one guy eventually inherited all the crowns?
I guess we weren't as lucky, we just had too many royal families scattered over the continent.

I guess a continent is technically just a really big island.

[dribbles]

General Sir Richard Barrons disagrees

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ce-chiefs-warn

With all the new Brexit booty funds sloshing around the UK economy public servants here are rubbbing their hands with glee at the prospect of extra money. The publicity around the promissory NHS £350 million is overshadowing others and it is the good Generals job to raise the profile of funding requirements of the military. You wouldn't expect to see anything else?

Looking for a mere 2bn you say? Here is just one source....

U.K. Has a Secret Plan to Hold Brexit Cash If EU Refuses to Trade

Prime Minister Theresa May’s team is eyeing up a contingency plan to hold back billions of pounds in Brexit payments, if the European Union refuses to give the U.K. the trade deal it wants.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...fuses-to-trade

Take it out of there.

[Noradin]

U.K. Has a Secret Plan to Hold Brexit Cash If EU Refuses to Trade

Prime Minister Theresa May’s team is eyeing up a contingency plan to hold back billions of pounds in Brexit payments, if the European Union refuses to give the U.K. the trade deal it wants.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...fuses-to-trade

Well, since what you pretent are payments for Brexit is really just a summary of what the UK already owes all that "secret plan" would do is lower the UK's credit rating to trash levels. I'm sure the US will love that and fall all over themselves to offer you a profitable trade deal.

[Demolitia]

Well, since what you pretent are payments for Brexit is really just a summary of what the UK already owes all that "secret plan" would do is lower the UK's credit rating to trash levels. I'm sure the US will love that and fall all over themselves to offer you a profitable trade deal.

This is just getting better and better.
The UK has unrealistic expectations, is already in a weak position and is now thinking about blackmailing the EU to withhold money it owes? How petty does it get.
Meanwhile the EU is expected to increase its budget after the UK leaves. I'm sure it will be terrified at the prospect of not getting the money immediately.
Maybe we can withhold the supply of uranium fuel rods until a Court rules on the money?

[Deleted]

With all the new Brexit booty funds sloshing around the UK economy public servants here are rubbbing their hands with glee at the prospect of extra money. The publicity around the promissory NHS £350 million is overshadowing others and it is the good Generals job to raise the profile of funding requirements of the military. You wouldn't expect to see anything else?

Looking for a mere 2bn you say? Here is just one source....

U.K. Has a Secret Plan to Hold Brexit Cash If EU Refuses to Trade

Prime Minister Theresa May’s team is eyeing up a contingency plan to hold back billions of pounds in Brexit payments, if the European Union refuses to give the U.K. the trade deal it wants.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...fuses-to-trade

Take it out of there.

Yeah - Just a helpful reminder, The debt is settled before trade negotiations begin.
What it can get is a heads of agreement, but that still amounts two either of these two choices, Norway, or Canada - Rejecting that duality will not alter it's supremacy.

[Deleted]

This is just getting better and better.
The UK has unrealistic expectations, is already in a weak position and is now thinking about blackmailing the EU to withhold money it owes? How petty does it get.
Meanwhile the EU is expected to increase its budget after the UK leaves. I'm sure it will be terrified at the prospect of not getting the money immediately.
Maybe we can withhold the supply of uranium fuel rods until a Court rules on the money?

If the deal falters to such a degree that there is no exit agreement, then all hell breaks loose.
Cross border trade will collapse, which won't matter that much, because virtually everything in the UK will no longer be in compliance with EEA so can't be sold there anyway, UK aircraft will not be able to land in the EU (or fly in the UK absent legal changes), The UK will be forced to either cease checking food imports for phyto-sanitary compliance, or cease importing food, UK drivers (any kind, not just truckers) will no longer have valid driver's licences, And this is not an exhaustive list.
It's also worth noting that if shit hits the fan, it's very, very unlikely that the EU would be in any mood to negotiate any quick fixes or stopgap solutions, their response is quite likely to be unilateral.
In short, if brexit is a bad idea, akin to pointing a gun at your foot and saying do as i say or i shoot, a crash brexit is doing it with a shotgun.

[Demolitia]

If the deal falters to such a degree that there is no exit agreement, then all hell breaks loose.
Cross border trade will collapse, which won't matter that much, because virtually everything in the UK will no longer be in compliance with EEA so can't be sold there anyway, UK aircraft will not be able to land in the EU (or fly in the UK absent legal changes), The UK will be forced to either cease checking food imports for phyto-sanitary compliance, or cease importing food, UK drivers (any kind, not just truckers) will no longer have valid driver's licences, And this is not an exhaustive list.
It's also worth noting that if shit hits the fan, it's very, very unlikely that the EU would be in any mood to negotiate any quick fixes or stopgap solutions, their response is quite likely to be unilateral.
In short, if brexit is a bad idea, akin to pointing a gun at your foot and saying do as i say or i shoot, a crash brexit is doing it with a shotgun.

It feels like the UK brexit trio is running out of ideas and asking their toddlers at home what they would do.

[Noradin]

If the deal falters to such a degree that there is no exit agreement, then all hell breaks loose.
Cross border trade will collapse, which won't matter that much, because virtually everything in the UK will no longer be in compliance with EEA so can't be sold there anyway, UK aircraft will not be able to land in the EU (or fly in the UK absent legal changes), The UK will be forced to either cease checking food imports for phyto-sanitary compliance, or cease importing food, UK drivers (any kind, not just truckers) will no longer have valid driver's licences, And this is not an exhaustive list.
It's also worth noting that if shit hits the fan, it's very, very unlikely that the EU would be in any mood to negotiate any quick fixes or stopgap solutions, their response is quite likely to be unilateral.
In short, if brexit is a bad idea, akin to pointing a gun at your foot and saying do as i say or i shoot, a crash brexit is doing it with a shotgun.

Not paying these outstanding obligations would be worse than a crash Brexit.
A crash Brexit is just a failure to reach a deal, this would be unilaterally breaking commitments made in the past.
That would nat look good on any future negotiations with anyone.

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I mean they can refuse to make one of those payments, their debt will just slide down to junk rating.

It's fairly inconceivable, and to my knowledge unprecedented that a state would not pay it's bills (like this i mean, not actual defaults).
I would guess it would be treated as the technical default of the US in 1979, That cost the US taxpayers billions over the coming decade - And they paid their bills after a delay of Days.
As a negotiating tactic, it's unlikely to work, and if ever utilized, even as a brinksmanship act, it's likely to hurt the UK taxpayer a whole lot more than the EU.
Actual withholding, and not just delayed, well - I'm not sure that investors in Gilts will handle that well.

[dribbles]

The EU doesn't give a shit, it's a drop in the water - we already told you that 100 times.

Yet I mention it in passing as an off comment and this forum board erupts? Please, a drop in the water? Britains Brexit bunce that increasingly the EU looks like not getting is just the tip of the ice berg.

President Junk has already ordered EU nations to raise contributions by 1% GDP, that's under the assumption that Brexit bunce is forthcoming - it probably isn't going to be. Time to recalculate upwards?

The Netherlands, as it hires an extra 1000 customs officers, has said it won't pay any more, it already is those customs people don't come for nothing. The costs to the EU are mounting to unimaginable highs by the day because of Brexit and this headline is correct :- EU on the Brink

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...exit-blackhole

Can it survive? Seriously you aren't worried at all? Looks like the so-called EU unity is cracking up to me.

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Yet I mention it in passing as an off comment and this forum board erupts? Please, a drop in the water? Britains Brexit bunce that increasingly the EU looks like not getting is just the tip of the ice berg. President Junk has already ordered EU nations to raise contributions by 1% GDP, that's under the assumption that Brexit bunce is forthcoming - it probably isn't going to be. Time to recalculate upwards?

The current utilization rate of the EU (27)'s economy is 42.8% of GDP - If everyone just equally picked up your share, and paid for it by raising taxes, that would amount to moving the figure to 42.9 something percent - It does not matter.
We are pointing out how god damned Insane the UK would have to be to refuse to pay Any bill - For the sole reason that this would backfire spectacularly.

The Netherlands, as it hires an extra 1000 customs officers, has said it won't pay any more, it already is those customs people don't come for nothing. The costs to the EU are mounting to unimaginable highs by the day because of Brexit and this headline is correct :- EU on the Brink

Just out of curiosity how many are the UK hiring? (Hint, Not nearly as many as they should).

Can it survive? Seriously you aren't worried at all? Looks like the so-called EU unity is cracking up to me.

I maintain that Brexit is the best thing to happen to the EU since the fall of the Berlin wall - Not because the UK was always the blocker, but because they are providing an first rate experiment of Europe sans the EU, and so far, nobody is interested in the omnishambles, soon to be a clusterfuck.