Polar bears 'running out of food'

[Mormolyce]

What's your point? A population can increase over a 40 year period but decrease over the last couple years.

Is it not self-explanatory?

[Mosotti]

I wonder if people understand that the Arctic ice has massively fluctuated over millions and millions of years and the bears were completely fine, ignoring particular cases, of course

Also emaciated polar bears are nothing new, that's the unfortunate thing that can happen to a bear that doesn't have what it takes to survive. That means competing with other bears if the need arises. Unfortunately for the bears, there's no supermarket open every day, with plenty of food.

So yeah, really, the vast majority of the polar bears are doing pretty good.

[TheBeardedOne]

I wonder if people understand that the Arctic ice has massively fluctuated over millions and millions of years and the bears were completely fine, ignoring particular cases, of course

Also emaciated polar bears are nothing new, that's the unfortunate thing that can happen to a bear that doesn't have what it takes to survive. That means competing with other bears if the need arises. Unfortunately for the bears, there's no supermarket open every day, with plenty of food.

So yeah, really, the vast majority of the polar bears are doing pretty good.

So lets jusy ignore all the evidence cause you got some thoughts on the subject?

[gwenrider]

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But how did they get through the periods in which the North Pole was frozen solid? It wasn't always as it is today, some research even suggests it was green for large parts for long periods of time.

[Aggrophobic]

But how did they get through the periods in which the North Pole was frozen solid? It wasn't always as it is today, some research even suggests it was green for large parts for long periods of time.

Frozen solid would be great, that would mean better access to food in their cases. Thy would, of course have to migrate south in that case but still.

[Orlong]

What's your point? A population can increase over a 40 year period but decrease over the last couple years.

Plus there is no way to count every single one to get an accurate count so they use estimates, models, extrapolations, and algorithms, all of which amount to nothing more than a guess

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Their habitat is being destroyed. Your article doesn't dispute this. It reinforces it. Misrepresenting articles just makes you look bad.

And they couldnt possibly move somewhere else? Antartica has millions of acres of free ice for them

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We can't save every endangered species so there has to be a prioritization of which ones are more important. I'm not sure if polar bears make the top 10.

The only one thats actually important is the honey bee

[tankbug]

And they couldnt possibly move somewhere else? Antartica has millions of acres of free ice for them

Good bye, penguins!

[Teri]

And they couldnt possibly move somewhere else? Antartica has millions of acres of free ice for them

Polar Bears need Sea Ice to catch Seals in their breathing holes.

Antarctica is mostly land/mountains, a polar bear wouldn't find any food at land based snow/ice/mountains, which antartica the south pole is about 2800m high.

Ice Shelves at the coast are also way to thick for seals to breach.

Sure, there's seasonal Sea ice, but it probably behaves differently due to different ocean currents and landmass.

Maybe also you'd destroy pinguin population at the same time introducing a completely foreign, exotic land predator which aren't on antarctica at all.

Aside from Orcas, Leopard Seal and Skuas, penguin have no natural land based predator.

[XangXu]

lol, fucking polar bears.

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Plus there is no way to count every single one to get an accurate count so they use estimates, models, extrapolations, and algorithms, all of which amount to nothing more than a guess

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And they couldnt possibly move somewhere else? Antartica has millions of acres of free ice for them

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The only one thats actually important is the honey bee

You think polar bears should suddenly decide to migrate to the opposite pole?

[Najnaj]

But how did they get through the periods in which the North Pole was frozen solid? It wasn't always as it is today, some research even suggests it was green for large parts for long periods of time.

Any researcher that thinks the north pole was green can safely be ignored.

[Freighter]

Sucks to be them. If they can't adapt then they will go extinct.

[Deleted]

Well big parts of Europe are turning to or have turned to green energy, but China and the US, not so much.
So I guess you are right

You know that this is 97% bullshit right? Why? Because consumers indeed turned to mainly green energy. But what if I told you that the green energy is not actual green energy and the consumer energy spend is only a fraction of the total energy consumption. Most of our "green" energy is burning biomass. But we are burning biomass way faster than we can produce, so we import the biomass from the US. What is biomass? yes, forests ...so we let the US destroy their forest, for our "green" energy.

I can go on for a long post, but here atleast some insight: http://www.businessinsider.com/europ...true&r=US&IR=T

[Muxtar]

Sucks to be them. If they can't adapt then they will go extinct.

Sucks to be you. It is because of the likes of you our planet will eventually eradicate all humanity, as it happened before with dinosaurs and during other mass extinctions.

[Strawberry]

Sucks to be them. If they can't adapt then they will go extinct.

Yeah, because of humans, their chance of survival is next to zero unless they can turn into mutant killer bears with 200 IQ, invisibility and impenetrable hide.

[Freighter]

Sucks to be you. It is because of the likes of you our planet will eventually eradicate all humanity, as it happened before with dinosaurs and during other mass extinctions.

The planet won't do anything as it's not an actual living thing with a mind of its own.

[urasim]

Yeah, because of humans, their chance of survival is next to zero unless they can turn into mutant killer bears with 200 IQ, invisibility and impenetrable hide.

Humans will eventually become extinct regardless of what we do to the planet.

[Strawberry]

Humans will eventually become extinct regardless of what we do to the planet.

That's speculation at best.

[Travis B]

And they couldnt possibly move somewhere else? Antartica has millions of acres of free ice for them

Good idea. I nominate you to be the one to transport them to Antarctica.