Main thread: No Zandalari Paladins?

[FelPlague]

How old are you? Serious question.

Those Dark Iron Dwarves are MAGES not Shaman.

The spellcasters of the Dark Iron dwarves are usually mages or shaman, as these deal closely with fire.[7] (MG 52)

also lol since when have mages been able to summon earth and fire elementals aswell as cast lava and electric spells?

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Yep FULL OF THIS PEEPS in Wow




Also Prelate Mobs are wearing MAIL gear. Costco Paladin.

that is pretty cool looking to be fair.

[Shakou]

werent the gryphon rider in w2 shamans?
i mean, at least for chronicle they were, but in the game?

Those are not the same kind of Dwarf as the original playable Dwarf, those are Wildhammer. Since Cataclysm, with very little explanation Mountain Dwarves are suddenly able to become Shaman because they reunited with the Wildhammer Dwarves and such.

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The spellcasters of the Dark Iron dwarves are usually mages or shaman, as these deal closely with fire.[7] (MG 52)

also lol since when have mages been able to summon earth and fire elementals aswell as cast lava and electric spells?

Dude you're citing a Wiki which itself is citing the NON CANON Warcraft tabletop rpg books. Dark Iron Shaman do not exist in game and never have. Zandalari Paladins have been a thing in game for some time now. You don't have a good argument.

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That because Allied Races didn't exist.

And every dwarf shaman is actually a wildhammer with no customization.

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werent the gryphon rider in w2 shamans?
i mean, at least for chronicle they were, but in the game?

Si lo sono.

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Zandalari Paladins have been a thing in game for some time now. You don't have a good argument.

Nope. "for some time now" not a single proof nor link, nothing of nothing.

[omeomorfismo]

Those are not the same kind of Dwarf as the original playable Dwarf, those are Wildhammer. Since Cataclysm, with very little explanation Mountain Dwarves are suddenly able to become Shaman because they reunited with the Wildhammer Dwarves and such.

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Dude you're citing a Wiki which itself is citing the NON CANON Warcraft tabletop rpg books. Dark Iron Shaman do not exist in game and never have. Zandalari Paladins have been a thing in game for some time now. You don't have a good argument.

yep sure, but i thought that your "dwarf shaman" after "dark iron shamans" was generic, my bad.
anyway what i understand at the time was that the melting pot after the reunification in ironforge spreads the peculiar knowledge of the 3 clans

[Shakou]

Also Prelate Mobs are wearing MAIL gear. Costco Paladin.

Uh no they are not. They are not wearing armor you can get as a player at all, that's not how NPCs like that work.

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Inb4 "BBBBUT ZANDALARI SET ZG"


Wow clearly a Troll themed set, this is the proof we needed.

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Uh no they are not. They are not wearing armor you can get as a player at all, that's not how NPCs like that work.

Sure they are since every NPC now wear gear, remind of the Lucid Nightmare Unicorn quest, people found which item the NPC was wearing thx to wowhead.

[Shakou]

Nope. "for some time now" not a single proof nor link, nothing of nothing.

I understand that you lack the capacity to comprehend this, but the Zandalari Prelate in Throne of Thunder is a very clear and obvious analogue to the Paladin for the Zandalari. It does not matter if you agree or not you're not correct on this and you never will be.

Furthermore, the aforementioned mobs are not even the first in-game Zandalari NPCs who use spells (including holy magic) similar to a Paladin, although they were the first that literally used core Paladin abilities with very slight name changes.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=52962/zan...chon#abilities

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=52958/zan...hant#abilities

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=52956/zan...naut#abilities

You people just plain do not know what you are talking about at all on any level. That the Zandalari have warriors in their ranks that use holy magic has been a thing in this game for a very long time now, it is not at all a stretch that they would have a playable class we call Paladins.

You know in Lore Night Elf male warriors aren't even a thing, and in Lore their warrior caste are called Sentinals and they are all females. You don't see anyone complaining about that though, but I see people like you cropping up all over these Zandalari Paladin discussions and you just don't know what you're talking about at all but you're so dead serious about how Zandalari Paladins would be breaking the Lore somehow, it's ridiculous. Really man, you just don't know the Lore of the game and should just stop participating in discussions about things you plainly do not know about.

[FelPlague]

Those are not the same kind of Dwarf as the original playable Dwarf, those are Wildhammer. Since Cataclysm, with very little explanation Mountain Dwarves are suddenly able to become Shaman because they reunited with the Wildhammer Dwarves and such.

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Dude you're citing a Wiki which itself is citing the NON CANON Warcraft tabletop rpg books. Dark Iron Shaman do not exist in game and never have. Zandalari Paladins have been a thing in game for some time now. You don't have a good argument.

yeah man IF ONLY there was dark iron mobs in the game who had shaman abilities like the zandalari paladins who have so many. IF ONLY
oh wait
there is lots.
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9319/houn...bmar#abilities
bloodlust
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=8983/gole...mach#abilities
chain lightning, lightning shield, shock
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9019/empe...ssan#abilities
avatar of flame
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9437/dark...falk#abilities
shock, lightning bolt

i think thats enough i could spend another hour looking through the three dark iron focused zone and may find a few more.

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yep sure, but i thought that your "dwarf shaman" after "dark iron shamans" was generic, my bad.
anyway what i understand at the time was that the melting pot after the reunification in ironforge spreads the peculiar knowledge of the 3 clans

or you know how dark iron dwarves SUMMONED FUCKING RAGNAROS and many dark iron shamans were seen in the blackrock mountain dungeons.

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I understand that you lack the capacity to comprehend this, but the Zandalari Prelate in Throne of Thunder is a very clear and obvious analogue to the Paladin for the Zandalari. It does not matter if you agree or not you're not correct on this and you never will be.

No it isn't and linking stuff already linked that aren't a real proof doesn't help you.

You are looking like a fool.

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or you know how dark iron dwarves SUMMONED FUCKING RAGNAROS and many dark iron shamans were seen in the blackrock mountain dungeons.

Actually Ragnaros was summoned by Thaurassian and the Seven, not a single shaman. Actually 2 locks.

[Shakou]

Sure they are since every NPC now wear gear

Except they don't.

You cannot find those armor sets anywhere in the game. The gear they wear is actually part of the model, and the type of armor that classes can wear isn't a Lore thing anyways, that's gameplay.

You see the issue here is that you're a young kid that needs to stop participating in this discussion because you don't know what you're talking about. Okay?

No longer responding to you and no one else should either.

[FelPlague]

No it isn't and linking stuff already linked that aren't a real proof doesn't help you.

You are looking like a fool.

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Actually Ragnaros was summoned by Thaurassian and the Seven, not a single shaman. Actually 2 locks.

and the race that summons the firelord cant possibly learn how to control the elements (and they have as i have proven above)

[Stelio Kontos]

Wow, the Zandalari Paladin fanboys are trying really hard to be the new playable High Elf fanboys.

I mean, I don't care one way or another, about Zandalar Paladins or High Elves (Hell, I'd probably play both), but it's funny watching the angst people feel over trivial things like this.

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Dwarf Shaman proofs : Wildhammer.
Dark Iron Shaman plausible proofs : Living with elementals? Ragnaros? More than 1 mobs with Shaman skills? Twilight Hammer Dark Iron Shaman?

Zandalari Paladin proofs : 1 Mob with 3 spell. Wishful Thinking.

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You cannot find those armor sets anywhere in the game.

Helm is from Tier 15 shaman set.

Now go in the corner and let the adult talk ty so much.

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and the race that summons the firelord cant possibly learn how to control the elements (and they have as i have proven above)

Dunno probably, was just clearing that Ragnaros wasn't summoned by any shaman.

[FelPlague]

Dwarf Shaman proofs : Wildhammer.
Dark Iron Shaman plausible proofs : Living with elementals? Ragnaros? More than 1 mobs with Shaman skills? Twilight Hammer Dark Iron Shaman?

Zandalari Paladin proofs : 1 Mob with 3 spell. Wishful Thinking.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9319/houn...bmar#abilities
bloodlust
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=8983/gole...mach#abilities
chain lightning, lightning shield, shock
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9019/empe...ssan#abilities
avatar of flame
http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9437/dark...falk#abilities
shock, lightning bolt

also the twilight geomancer is able to use "Earth spike" but can be night elves, orcs, dwarves, dark iron dwarves so i am not so sure... but it still is a point.

if you missed it.
as shakou i think is ignoring it.
at this point im only here to see whats going on (im all for zandalari trolls btw, just not how much people are spamming it but hey its a megathread not, thats great!)
but the "Dark iron shamans dont exist" is nonsense...

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Avatar of Flames is a shaman spell?

[Crixes1]

Let’s change this thread to, no Zandalari dks?? Since they make more sense then Paladins.

[Deleted]

Let’s change this thread to, no Zandalari dks?? Since they make more sense then Paladins.

Dark Iron DK got datamined.

This will be huge if confirmed.


Only proof to Zandalari Deathknight is that Zandalari Troll in Zul'Drak

[FelPlague]

Avatar of Flames is a shaman spell?

Well i wouldent really call it a warlock or mage spell would i?
i put it there mostly because becoming an avatar of fire is like the shaman spell where you become a "Ascendant of fire"
but if not there is still other npcs that use shaman spells so. if 1 zandalari with 3 spells can mean it, why cant 3 shaman with 5 spells be it?

[Deleted]

Ye but sound more like a mix between Divine Shield and Immolation Aura, nevertheless there are more proof for DI Shaman than ZPala

[Shakou]

yeah man IF ONLY there was dark iron mobs in the game who had shaman abilities like the zandalari paladins who have so many. IF ONLY
oh wait
there is lots.

If only you didn't come across as an angry 12 year old know-it-all.

You mentioned 3 npcs that have abilities that playable Shaman have, Thaurissan is definitely not one of them.

You somehow missed the only NPC in BRD that is an actual Shaman: www.wowhead.com/npc=9024/pyromancer-loregrain

Get this: he's a Tauren.

Also BTW, the Dark Iron in BRD do not commune with Elementals they are enslaved by them. Hence they're not shaman. Just because they use similar spells does not make them shaman, nor does it suddenly mean that it would be appropriate for the playable class to feature them. Not that we even know if that will be the case or not, what the case is it's a class combo that makes more sense than Draenei Shaman ever will.

However the issue here is that you are acting like a kid throwing a fit in here and derailing discussion. What you need to do is stop typing in caps and take discussion about this somewhere else.