Iceland proposes ban on male circumcision

[Lochton]

http://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/health...ntl/index.html

Excerpt:

"A proposed bill to ban non-medically required male circumcision on babies and children in Iceland is receiving backlash from religious communities.
'Those procedures are unnecessary, done without their informed consent, non-reversible and can cause all kinds of severe complications, disfigurations and even death,' said Icelandic Progressive Party MP Silja Dögg Gunnarsdottir. She said a child should be old enough to give 'informed consent" for the procedure and defended the proposed ban as being about protecting children's rights, adding that it would "not go against the religious right of their parents.'

The European Jewish Congress (EJC), condemned the bill saying the ban would be an 'effective deterrent' that would 'guarantee that no Jewish community will be established' in the country.

'Iceland would be the only country to ban one of the most central, if not the most central rite in the Jewish tradition in modern times,' the EJC statement said, adding that this would 'attack Judaism in a way that concerns Jews all over the world.'

One in three men globally are estimated to be circumcised, with the majority for religious and cultural reasons."

Thoughts?

Great news! Now we just need every other developed countries to vote ban on it.

[Shadowferal]

Not sure how is this an atheist issue. You really think your God requires the foreskins of baby boys? Like what sort of fucking whackado shit is that?

That's how it always plays out. And Jews, Muslims, and Christians got together and said it's unconstitutional and the courts agreed.
So stop trying to tell parents how to raise their children. Because you get zero say in how anyone raises their child.

[Bapestar]

They look uglier. Harder to keep clean? I've never heard any guy complain that it's hard to keep their dick clean because they're not circumcised lol.

I wouldn't say it's hard, but you definitely, can't slack on washing if you are not circumcised.

[Hugnomo]

They look uglier. Harder to keep clean? I've never heard any guy complain that it's hard to keep their dick clean because they're not circumcised lol.

I am a guy and I'm not circumcized, as that's not a very common practice over here. That "cleanliness" excuse is the biggest load of crap ever. You take a shower, you clean yourself. It isn't harder or easier, you either clean yourself or you don't. How they look is a matter of subjectivity (I'm perfectly happy with mine lol).It is mutilation, it is unnecessary, and it's done on unconsenting children. I find that barbaric.

[shaunika123]

It's not like I had a say in the matter, but I'm glad my parents opted for circumcision. Penises look ugly without it and I hear they're harder to keep clean.

yes you need to be a regular rocket scientist to pull the skin back a little and wash it. In fact i'd never wish being uncircumcised to anyone without at least 3 PHDs because their dicks would just fall off due to impossible hygene demands.

as to all the arguments about whether it looks good or not.

I wonder how women would feel if we deformed them at birth so they look better for us. in fact, I'm pretty sure there have been outrage about piercing little girls' ears now imagine if you cut half of it off.

That's how it always plays out. And Jews, Muslims, and Christians got together and said it's unconstitutional and the courts agreed.
So stop trying to tell parents how to raise their children. Because you get zero say in how anyone raises their child.

except that's blatantly false, governments are very much involved in how you raise your children, the only exception apparently, is if your imaginary friends tells you to do something with your child, then the government cant do anything about it cos it's "unconstitutional" lol

[Mihalik]

That's how it always plays out. And Jews, Muslims, and Christians got together and said it's unconstitutional and the courts agreed.
So stop trying to tell parents how to raise their children. Because you get zero say in how anyone raises their child.

Uhu. So...if X religious denomination decides that they'll start tattooing swastikas on their kids foreheads in the name of their lord and savior Adolf that be grand too?

I just don't understand people like you. Like, it's head scratchily confusing, you are in favor of mutilating kids for...what? 'Cuz a moron cereal salesman convinced millions of people that chopping off kids foreskins will stop them jacking off?

I mean, you do realize that outside the US, no other developed nation practices that shit, beyond making an exemption of Jewish kids, which frankly I think they shouldn't?

[Shadowferal]

Uhu. So...if X religious denomination...

Stop right there.
If you can't stick to the narrative, then don't even imagine some shitty extreme drivel will make your argument sound any better.

[Mihalik]

Stop right there.
If you can't stick to the narrative, then don't even imagine some shitty extreme drivel will make your argument sound any better.

What? I was making a point about how we impose reasonable restrictions on every right, including that of religious freedom, and what is considered acceptable or not, is incredibly subjective and there's absolutely no reason why circumcision should be protected while other harmful practices are not.

So once again. I think you are just an asshole or a moron....or both.

[Dhrizzle]

I love the way this subject turns people on both sides of the argument into screaming fanatics.

[Polyxo]

Iceland, Land of the Foreskin!

[Deleted]

Wait a second... Iceland has that penis museum...

They want exclusivity on circumcised dicks!!!

Gosh darn corporations using the government as a tool to increase profits, disgusting!!

[Levelfive]

I think I read some scientific paper some years ago on circumcision that it's hygienically better. I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Unfortunately, it's one of those topics where every study has an equal and opposite study.

Iceland, Land of the Foreskin!

That made me laugh pretty hard.

[Polarthief]

Any country that wants to be seen as civilized should ban it.

100% agreed. No more mutilating baby penises.

[Tennis]

Almost every male who has been circumcised is glad his parents had it done. What's the issue here?

[Serenity91]

Kek...
Telling a parent they can’t make decisions for their own children. Might as well just make all children wards of the state then if you really that way my friend. See the other part of my statement you quoted if you really feel that strongly about it.
MMOC-OT really should make a circumcision mega thread for all you extremists to vent in. This topic comes up at least once a month.

Peace

From one extreme to the other. Are you a sith lord or what the fuck?

[Swargle]

Uh, i care how any of my boyfriends dick looks like

Pretty sure I asked about sons, not boyfriends, those aren't really interchangeable terms for most people...

[Queen of Hamsters]

Good.

It shouldn't be a thing unless it's a medical necessity/a choice made by a grown person.

[Puupi]

Almost every male who has been circumcised is glad his parents had it done. What's the issue here?

Highlighted the issue.

[JohnBrown1917]

Pretty sure I asked about sons, not boyfriends, those aren't really interchangeable terms for most people...

Maybe he is from Alabama.

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That's how it always plays out. And Jews, Muslims, and Christians got together and said it's unconstitutional and the courts agreed.
So stop trying to tell parents how to raise their children. Because you get zero say in how anyone raises their child.

Its only a thing in islam/judaism. Most Americans are doing it because its 'normal'.
Such a joke lol.



Cutting of the foreskin is now 'raising a child' lol?

[nanook12]

I agree with Iceland. Screw religion, it can go fuck itself.