Woman charged 17.850 $ for urine test. In USA.

[Sliske]

If you want to understand the reason, go to N.....x, find the series called 'Dirty Money' and watch episode 3, on Valeant Pharmaceuticals.
Then, watch all other episodes. Then, have a nice day.

why is Netflix blocked out like its a swear word?

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I had a really bad ear infection a while back. It cost me about 45€ with all the checkups (yes plural) and medicine combined. Unicersal healthcare is a scam right?

Mother had kidney stones. Asked about the wait time for that particular operation - 2 years. She elected to go private instead, thankfully her Father had money. Cost £4600 in total.

Thats is literally the only bad experience i've had or know of from interacting with the NHS. Just to put it into perspective, my mother has had cancer 3 times (no, shes not a smoker before someone says it, shes just unlucky af), a torn ligament in her shoulder and a bunch of other things that require operations. If she was in America right now she'd be either dead or $500,000+ in debt.

America, sort your shit out. You don't need to keep making jets to protect countries like Japan, put your taxes towards universal healthcare and clamp down on your southern border so it doesn't get abused by illegals and mass immigration like ours in the UK is.

[Deleted]

See, the thing is, the ACA aimed to do exactly what you suggest. It also sought to use collective bargaining to set price ceilings on treatments and medications, but that was one of the concessions Obama foolishly made in order to attempt to lure in GOP and blue dog support.

Had the ACA been everything that Romneycare was in Massachusetts, our healthcare system would be significantly better than it is currently.

Though I will say that the private nature of our heathcare system IS the problem. Pointedly so. We have too many networks, too many providers, and too few regulations preventing them from gouging hospitals, clinics and medical suppliers all in the pursuit of the all-mighty maximum stockholder distribution. Healthcare, like the prison system, like our utility systems, like our telecoms should not in any way, shape or form be for-profit businesses, because those only ever have their shareholder's interests in mind - not the consumer, and certainly not society as a whole.

Yeah i agree - You can construct a private healthcare system though.
Don't ever think it would work in the US with the truly spectacular and deeply corrosive lobbying culture though.

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America, sort your shit out. You don't need to keep making jets to protect countries like Japan, put your taxes towards universal healthcare and clamp down on your southern border so it doesn't get abused by illegals and mass immigration like ours in the UK is.

The thing is - The US spends 15% of it's GDP on healthcare, the average in the EU is 7-8%.
It isn't a question of money, because just doing a blanket copy paste job would pay for itself, it's got to do with the vested interests desire to continue being parasites.

[Projectmars]

The thing is - The US spends 15% of it's GDP on healthcare, the average in the EU is 7-8%.
It isn't a question of money, because just doing a blanket copy paste job would pay for itself, it's got to do with the vested interests desire to continue being parasites.

Yes, but if we could get our shit together we wouldn’t have to spend as much on healthcare

[nanook12]

It is time to end the healthcare giants, and California is going to be the first to do it.

[Khaza-R]

I’ve said this is another thread on healthcare. It should be illegal to charge a patient more than what a provider accepts from Medicare

[Macaquerie]

why is Netflix blocked out like its a swear word?

Seriously, when I read the post I was like, what the hell is Niggax?

[RaoBurning]

I got similar kidney stone experience a few years ago, but as a Canadian, it cost me nothing. I didnt actually wait for the ER. I was sedated first and when the pain was gone they passed me the ER to find it.

Few weeks later i got another surge of pain so i had a friend drive me to the emergency again so they just drugged me and let me pass the night there. No bills for that either.

I didn't actually pass mine in the ER. Once they confirmed that it was a stone and not an organ exploding or something, they gave me a script for bladder relaxer and pain meds and sent me on my way. Neither of which I filled, because no insurance. I just dealt with the pain every time I peed for a week or so until the delightful "tink" in the toilet finally rang.

Canada sounds nice.

[dess]

Seventeen dollars and eighty-five cents, that's that cheapest urine test ever... where can I get one?

[Deleted]

People like my parents? "Socialism has NEVER WORKED Brian!" God how many times I hear that in a year, they then hand wave that UIB, Medicare/Cade, food stamps, all programs they actually support, by in large, as being socialist in nature.

They agree the system is fooked, but only because AcA fooked it....

Same people who think that anything to do with social guaranties means the commies are coming and obviously those who profit from it.

Neither of those is defending the way medical bills are overpriced. They are vague complaints about something else.

[arandomuser]

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You do get though that you can't combine single payer healthcare with free immigration right?
Dem's need to pick one, can't (afford) both.

No democrat is in favor of open borders, obama wasnt in favor of open borders, hillary wasnt, bernie sanders wasnt, all hell not even europe has open borders, you just believe the fake news outlets bank rolled by russia to roll out far right propaganda. Do some research on how refugees are actually picked and re settled there is a vigorous process of vetting, net illegal immigration from mexio has been almost 0 for 4 years...under obama administration, who deported more illegals than trump did , so this lie that people were flooding in under democrats its not rooted in reality.

[Deleted]

What does Trump have to do with anything? This happened back in 2015. Did you even read the article?

Everything is Trumps fault. Are you new to this forum?

[dwarven]

How awesome is that?
I remember a man being charged almost 8000$ for a simple tetanus shot few years ago.That was in USA, too.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/02/19/h...ner/index.html

$17.85 isn't that much.

[bladeXcrasher]

It is time to end the healthcare giants, and California is going to be the first to do it.

I know you are banned but fuck it. Didn't Massachusetts already basically do that 12 years ago?

[Krigaren]

Imagine how much money you could save by doing research instead of begging mommy government to do it for you.

Imagine being so ignorant about the actual issues that you think that "research" would be enough to prevent someone from getting into financial debt when 1) their employer provided health insurance is usually their only affordable choice, 2) operations and procedures cost isn't shown up front and if you need something done, it needs to be done regardless.

Imagine being so selfish that you can't sympathize for even one second with people who are being taken advantage of due to a very real lack of options while living in the "best nation in the world" that doesn't even give one dick about properly taking care of it's people like the rest of the world does.

[lewdest]

Imagine being so ignorant about the actual issues that you think that "research" would be enough to prevent someone from getting into financial debt when 1) their employer provided health insurance is usually their only affordable choice, 2) operations and procedures cost isn't shown up front and if you need something done, it needs to be done regardless.

Imagine being so selfish that you can't sympathize for even one second with people who are being taken advantage of due to a very real lack of options while living in the "best nation in the world" that doesn't even give one dick about properly taking care of it's people like the rest of the world does.

Still spouting ignorance an excuse. Maybe they should put a massive board of procedures at the front desk to be more like your McDonalds.

[Projectmars]

$17.85 isn't that much.

Countries outside the US use a . instead of a , for numbers in the thousands so It is $17,850 rather than $17.85.

[Triggered Fridgekin]

I had a really bad ear infection a while back. It cost me about 45€ with all the checkups (yes plural) and medicine combined. Unicersal healthcare is a scam right?

Around here folks are ready to grab their pitchfork and torch when the price to park in the hospital lot goes up by a dollar.

It's utter chaos.

[Krigaren]

Still spouting ignorance an excuse. Maybe they should put a massive board of procedures at the front desk to be more like your McDonalds.

I know you think that this is some kind of witty retort, or that it's somehow scathing because it links it to mass consumerism, but realistically, in what way would it be bad for a hospital or clinic to publish their costs for procedures?

Also, I'm not aware of any McDonalds that's "mine". If you know of one, please let me know so I can start collecting my franchising paycheck.

[Orange Joe]

$17.85 isn't that much.

Reading the first paragraph of the link shows how stupid your comment is here.

[Krigaren]

Still spouting ignorance an excuse. Maybe they should put a massive board of procedures at the front desk to be more like your McDonalds.

I know you think that this is some kind of witty retort, or that it's somehow scathing because it links it to mass consumerism, but realistically, in what way would it be bad for a hospital or clinic to publish their costs for procedures?

More to the point, would you consider it reasonable for someone who needs a procedure to shop around for the lowest price like they're searching for a used car, or for the cost to be the same everywhere they go so they have the freedom to chose the best doctor or hospital that suits their needs? Wouldn't it be better for people to have that choice without having to worry about what level of crushing debt they'll end up with, or do you find it more reasonable for people to adopt the GOP health plan of quietly dying in order to save everyone else the hassle?

Also, I'm not aware of any McDonalds that's "mine". If you know of one, please let me know so I can start collecting my franchising paycheck.