2-handed Frost? The dream coming true!

[Hellborne87]

Isn't the problem of balancing dual wielding and two handed a superficial argument? Does there need to be a functional difference between the two? As many have said before, an easy option would be just to make it a cosmetic difference -> no numerical advantage for any of the two, just a difference in visuals. If Person1 likes wielding two-handed weapons, that's fine! If Person2 enjoys dual-wielding, no problem!

It would be nice if that were the case, but when we lose our artifacts and go back to relying on weapons dropping in raids, this wouldn't work. I'm sure we'd all prefer to acquire a 2H'er once, rather than a 1H'er twice.

[nathrizarri]

All I see is one hand in the saddle and the other slashing with the sword, therefore frostmourne is not a 2h sword, end of discussion.

One of my friend actually said that Frost Dks should use 1 handed only but not dual wield. Off hand for spell casting. That would have been interesting.

[Futhark]

Up until Tmorph was unable to work anymore, I was rocking Frostmourne as Frost the entire expansion. The REAL Frostmourne, not two halves of it. It was glorious playing two handed Frost. The only problem was auto-attacks from offhand: my DK would throw a punch with his left.

I understand it was a gameplay decision that evolved over time, but fantasy-wise, I'll never understand why slow/powerful Frost wasn't made the 2Hd spec, instead of thousand-cuts Blood or spell-cast Unholy.

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Both Obliterate and Frost strike requires One handed melee weapon.

Main-hand Shaman attacks don't though, which makes you wonder what the possibilities for 2Hd Enhance are when the artifacts expire.

[cparle87]

Arthas was always a badass to me. He as a DK uses a 2H weapons to bring destruction. Using 2 1handers always seemed strange as a DK.

Yeah, it seemed strange to me from day one that they could use one handers at all.

[Khain]

DKs are all kinds of fallen warriors, why is it strange that some prefer to dual wield?

[LCDArcade]

I miss 2H frost so much! I just don't feel like a Death Knight when I am duel wielding.

This. So much this.

[Piz813]

Arthas was always a badass to me. He as a DK uses a 2H weapons to bring destruction. Using 2 1handers always seemed strange as a DK.

Thought frostmourne was a 1h sword? I liked 2h when you could OB OB OB ERW OB OB dead PvP target.
They never figured out 2h and PvP so they just took it away. That's the truth

[Super Kami Dende]

Thought frostmourne was a 1h sword? I liked 2h when you could OB OB OB ERW OB OB dead PvP target.
They never figured out 2h and PvP so they just took it away. That's the truth

No, Arthas was just strong enough to carry it in 1 hand, but used 2 hands when he swung it. It is also classified as a 2h sword ingame.

[Cosmic Janitor]

DKs are all kinds of fallen warriors, why is it strange that some prefer to dual wield?

Besides dual wielding being the dumbest style over substance thing ever? Not much I guess.
Dual wielding swords is the ancient equivalent of holding your gun sideways and pulling the trigger with your pinky.


Either way. I don't see them actually changing much. Currently it just looks like a general scaling change for melee and it still wouldn't solve the rune enchant issue and them wanting it dead for some arbitrary reason. The most frightening thing about the alpha is that once again DKs have been relegated to the back of the queue for the design pass, which in turn could very well mean that we will be half-assed (again) in the last minute changes of the expansion.

[Kaibhan]

Don't really get why people want 2H Frost back so badly. That means all of the artifact appearances you've unlocked this xpac will be useless to you. It also seems odd because Frost is so fast and spammy. It would look very strange to see a giant 2H sword being flung around like a twig in order to visually match how many abilities we're actually spamming.

I dont care, either way. I like 'em both. Just don't get the seeming-obsession with it.

Not sure about the obsession but it's always felt to me like unholy should have been the 1h spec and frost the 2h. 2h Frost always just felt good with the massive crits and unholy felt great with all the dots and the pet damage throwing little numbers everywhere. It was nice. Since things have been forced the other way it never felt as good and kinda sucks the enjoyment out of the dk remembering what was.

[LCDArcade]

'Frost'Mourne was a 2H weapon end of story.

[nathrizarri]

'Frost'Mourne was a 2H weapon end of story.

Funny it got rekt by Ashbringer into pieces beyond full reforgre.

I want to dual wield shadowmourne, give me DW 2 handed weapons like fury!

[Zorish]

'Frost'Mourne was a 2H weapon end of story.

'Frost'Mourne was a bastard sword end of story. fixed for you.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Not sure about the obsession but it's always felt to me like unholy should have been the 1h spec and frost the 2h. 2h Frost always just felt good with the massive crits and unholy felt great with all the dots and the pet damage throwing little numbers everywhere. It was nice. Since things have been forced the other way it never felt as good and kinda sucks the enjoyment out of the dk remembering what was.

I've always been saying this. Almost every single association with frost is that of slow and heavy, I simply don't see how the agile ninja thing fits with it. The DW talents back in WotLK were in (the low tier) frost because it was ment as the required 20/21 points dump in another tree.

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Funny it got rekt by Ashbringer into pieces beyond full reforgre.

I want to dual wield shadowmourne, give me DW 2 handed weapons like fury!

Warrior's having the unholy strength to dual wield giant two handed swords and jump 30 yards is another thing that never really made sense, but I guess they wanted something for warriors and were desperate. Being OP was not enough .

[nathrizarri]

Fast ninja argument is utter BS. Both arms warrior and frost do have 1.5 sec GCD where the animation takes place. And we use both weapons at the same time, not one by one with each strike.

Auto attacks? Do people care about it still?

I've always been saying this. Almost every single association with frost is that of slow and heavy, I simply don't see how the agile ninja thing fits with it. The DW talents back in WotLK were in (the low tier) frost because it was ment as the required 20/21 points dump in another tree.

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Warrior's having the unholy strength to dual wield giant two handed swords and jump 30 yards is another thing that never really made sense, but I guess they wanted something for warriors and were desperate. Being OP was not enough .

[Yhcti]

Would be extremely happy If 2H Frost returned.

[Amnaught]

Cool... so when do we get dual-weild blood and unholy?

[LCDArcade]

Heroic Raider uses 2H frost to get World 2nd Heroic Rag kill and people lose their minds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YG2KKvLcLc

[docterfreeze]

KM obliterates with 2h was way more satisfying than anything DW frost could do.

[RuneDK]

'Frost'Mourne was a 2H weapon end of story.

But Arthas was an unholy DK....so therefor 2H for unholy...DW for frost.