Blood of Sargeras missions nerfed

[Jngizu]

Ya, this was "good" if you are LAZY and enjoy making less gold with your "alt farm".

I use my bloods exclusively to buy crafting materials, before I would use excess to buy resources only when I was running really low, now those all mainly get spent on herbs which then get turned into pots and flasks, my main's bloods all get converted into Potion of Prolonged Power. I make far more gold in far less time doing this than you ever will with your alt farm solely grinding order hall missions and it's also far more TIME efficient to physically take your alts into the world and do world quests than it was to spent 1800 order resources from your main just to send them a tiny amount of resources for hardly any gain.

Now I could understand if you had say 20-30 alts you were running, but you're not doing that. You might have a few more than me on a single server and that's it.

I don't know about you but my alts have over 100k resources a piece. So they are already completely self efficient, because I had no reason to do anything but let my blood of sargeras sit and rot in my bank and stack up until mid-way through this xpac.

You're just not optimal homie. The very idea that people were even doing this is flat out stupid to me, I would only bother with those blood missions if I had almost no other missions I could do, because plain and simple the order resources - blood conversion rate was never that great.

The guy said he had 36 alts, you've been making long post since the beginning, while completely missing his point. Of course it wasn't that useful if you only have a handful of characters. This nerf, however, is aimed at people with 10+. Baffling you don't get that.

[Battlebeard]

Another change to make people grind more. I am just thankful I have a good job, so I can buy game tokens and never worry about gold missions etc. I skip so much grinds with this.

But for people who can't or don't wanna spend irl money, I don't know how you deal with this expansion :O

[Ophenia]

But for people who can't or don't wanna spend irl money, I don't know how you deal with this expansion :O

If you need Gold to buy game time through Tokens, you won't get enough with Order Halls and you'll more likely be boosting MM+15. I think you'll need like 10 boosts a month to buy a Token...

If you don't buy Tokens, you don't need any Gold. Golds are useless since... Forever ? Don't really know.

The simple fact I'm doing some WQ is enough to pay for the pots/flasks/food/whatever I need (and which I'm too lazy to craft myself), I don't really see what's the point of accumulating golds. Black Market ? People sinking golds there are likely big farmers so they shouldn't mind doing WQs of farming the AH for this.

[Deleted]

If you need Gold to buy game time through Tokens, you won't get enough with Order Halls.

Another one who doesn't know what they're talking about.

[Makabreska]

If you need Gold to buy game time through Tokens, you won't get enough with Order Halls and you'll more likely be boosting MM+15. I think you'll need like 10 boosts a month to buy a Token...

If you don't buy Tokens, you don't need any Gold. Golds are useless since... Forever ? Don't really know.

The simple fact I'm doing some WQ is enough to pay for the pots/flasks/food/whatever I need (and which I'm too lazy to craft myself), I don't really see what's the point of accumulating golds. Black Market ? People sinking golds there are likely big farmers so they shouldn't mind doing WQs of farming the AH for this.

Well, I was doing missions and WQ's on 3 chars since the start of the Legion, and bought BfA, Overwatch, D3 necro pack and full game time from that. Sure, I got few lucky BoE drops in raids, but OH/WQ gold is more than enough to cover game time for me.

[cparle87]

So you'll now have to be actively playing all your alts so they could have resources to run missions? That's retarded. I guess the real intent here was to kill passive gold making. Why then bother creating Companion App if you don't want players to earn rewards while offline?

Because they don't want you to be able to earn rewards while offline all the time I'm guessing. They want you to have to log in to resupply your supplies once in a while, not just generate gold on your cell phone.

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Another change to make people grind more. I am just thankful I have a good job, so I can buy game tokens and never worry about gold missions etc. I skip so much grinds with this.

But for people who can't or don't wanna spend irl money, I don't know how you deal with this expansion :O

Weren't people complaining that they didn't even need to log in, they just did order missions on their phone app and made free gold. Well, now you get to log in now and then to earn supplies to keep your missions going. Problem solved.

[Battlebeard]

If you need Gold to buy game time through Tokens, you won't get enough with Order Halls and you'll more likely be boosting MM+15. I think you'll need like 10 boosts a month to buy a Token...

If you don't buy Tokens, you don't need any Gold. Golds are useless since... Forever ? Don't really know.

The simple fact I'm doing some WQ is enough to pay for the pots/flasks/food/whatever I need (and which I'm too lazy to craft myself), I don't really see what's the point of accumulating golds. Black Market ? People sinking golds there are likely big farmers so they shouldn't mind doing WQs of farming the AH for this.

I have an active subscription, not using gold for that.

Gold is never useless. I still need ALL tcg mounts (that's like 50 million alone or more), 15+ BMAH toys, 3 TCG pets, like the spider mount, millions worth of gold in xmog boe items, and much, much more. I could spend 100+ million easily and still need more.

[Temp name]

Level DK's, paladins, and DH's. They can get their own resources

[Deleted]

Level DK's, paladins, and DH's. They can get their own resources

Mages and warriors can too. It's enough if you haven't unlocked Argus missions but I'm guessing it can be rough to keep up if you have if you want to to all the gold missions.

[Ophenia]

Edit : Nvm, I should learn to stop talking to walls.

[Sencha]

Takes 2-3 hours per day to send my 36 alts twice per day

sounds like lots of fun indeed xD

It's a lot of work but I can say that you EARN the gold at least IMO.

EARN? lol

Bye everyone. I think I'm going to go get a life.

Finally!

[ydraw]

I thought I was going crazy. well this shits retarded, oh well fuck blizz I'll find another way to get resource.

You'll get more than enough resources by just doing the 4 wq each day to get your emissary cache. That was the intention of this change. To force people to actually play their character in order to maintain their order hall. They didn't want you to be able to self sustain it through missions alone, which is what people were doing with the blood missions.

It was a stated goal throughout the whole expansion that they didn't want you to be able to just log into your garrisons and run missions and do nothing else. They missed the blood missions allowing you to do that, it was an obvious mistake that has now been fixed.

Unless you are a druid and have Broll Bearmantle obviously. The mission table farmers can just boost 30 druids if they still want to keep doing it

[Spl4sh3r]

It looks like the Blood of Sargeras missions are nerfed in the Class Order Halls. Where you previously had to pay 1800 order hall resources for a possible 12 blood of sargeras reward (which can be converted to 2400 OHR) you now actually have to pay 2400 OHR to start the mission, making it in the best possible scenario break even. When you use any non-followers you will even lose on it. Too bad, this means I will have to do more worldquests on my alts to keep doing all those sweet goldmissions

Did not see any notes/hotfixes for it though and am pretty annoyed by it, have send several missions away already on alts, losing me OHR in the process now...

Aren't there follower abilities that reduce the cost of missions? Or are you including those already?

[Inshadowz]

I just got all my toons to max (1 of each class) so i'm kinda late on the mission game. I hear follower missions are going away in BfA, so we will have to find new ways to make that e-z gold lol. At least i'll have my toons ready!

[Gorsameth]

Aren't there follower abilities that reduce the cost of missions? Or are you including those already?

Only druids get a follower with cost reduction.

[Ardrial]

Ya, this was "good" if you are LAZY and enjoy making less gold with your "alt farm".

I use my bloods exclusively to buy crafting materials, before I would use excess to buy resources only when I was running really low, now those all mainly get spent on herbs which then get turned into pots and flasks, my main's bloods all get converted into Potion of Prolonged Power. I make far more gold in far less time doing this than you ever will with your alt farm solely grinding order hall missions and it's also far more TIME efficient to physically take your alts into the world and do world quests than it was to spent 1800 order resources from your main just to send them a tiny amount of resources for hardly any gain.

Now I could understand if you had say 20-30 alts you were running, but you're not doing that. You might have a few more than me on a single server and that's it.

I don't know about you but my alts have over 100k resources a piece. So they are already completely self efficient, because I had no reason to do anything but let my blood of sargeras sit and rot in my bank and stack up until mid-way through this xpac.

You're just not optimal homie. The very idea that people were even doing this is flat out stupid to me, I would only bother with those blood missions if I had almost no other missions I could do, because plain and simple the order resources - blood conversion rate was never that great.

I'm doing 23 toons on my home server (2 accounts). There's no way i'm doing world quests on every toon every day. that's insanity. that would be AT LEAST 2-3 hours a day doing WQs only for OR purposes.

[ydraw]

Aren't there follower abilities that reduce the cost of missions? Or are you including those already?

As far as I know the only follower in the game with this ability is Broll Bearmantle in the Druid order hall. His ability reduces the cost of the Blood missions from 2400 to 1680 resources, for a total profit of 720 resources per mission. Making him easily the best follower in the game.

[Ealyssa]

You're just not optimal homie.

What kind of special are you ? How is having hundreds of OH "optimal" ? I don't give a fuck about ressources, I only need enough to run the gold mission I get. Which I always do.

You are waaaay over stacked in ressources, means you overfarmed, means you wasted time, means YOU aren't optimised. Who's the stupid again ?

And feel free to quote me multiple times again. Prove my point of you loving wastes of time...

[kraid]

Well I guess I'll just complete 2 or 3 argus WQ with each alt then, It's not crazy time since I only have 8 alts.

[Deleted]

Annnnd that was the final straw for me. I have really only been playing for my alt army and the gold generated from it. It's not exceptional gold, it's pretty good but you have to earn it. You have to spend a lot of time setting it up by first leveling the alt to max, gearing the alt (less horrible with account bound argus gear), doing the class hall quests to get all of the champions, sending them out to get exp and doing missions for equipment for them and then keeping each alt stocked with order hall resources, logging in every morning and evening to send each alt's missions, figuring out the right combo of champions for the missions. Takes 2-3 hours per day to send my 36 alts twice per day to earn roughly 80-120k gold per day. It's a lot of work but I can say that you EARN the gold at least IMO. Fun was detected, nerf was injected. Bye everyone. I think I'm going to go get a life. Perfect excuse. Have fun.

"Abloo bloo bloo I was helping ruin the economy further and now I can't to the same extent boohoo"