I wish they'd bring back tabards

[Super Kami Dende]

Arbitrary as in which tabards are properly unlocked account-wide.

Does it make sense that my level 50 that's never set foot in Northrend can transmog into the Argent Crusade tabard which is bought when exalted? Why then does it make sense that she can't transmog into other tabards being sold by factions at exalted? Simply because some rep tabards have the reputation requirement whilst others following the exact same formula, do not.

Ergo, I say they should just allow mogging into ALL tabards across the account once they've been added to the wardrobe.

the Argent Crusade Tabard is bought at Friendly. Which basically requires you doing 2 quests.

[mickybrighteyes]

Tabards should grant reputation after the expansion has become old content.

But no, instead they're actually going to make new players in BFA go back and grind Legion reps. Sad.

technically the tabard you're referring to doesn't have any requirements... the vendor to access it does.

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the Argent Crusade Tabard is bought at Friendly. Which basically requires you doing 2 quests.

there's the argent crusader's tabard which you can't buy unless exalted with the faction. the tabard is bought with crusader seals from a vender you don't get to interact with until you're exalted.

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also the green tabard remains locked until you reach friendly with the faction while the crusader one is immediately available for any alt.

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again I don't see the 'arbritary' thing on this since the items themselves list the requirement at some point in their tool tip. It's not like trying to mog a Dark Herring or the Direbrew event Dagger that uses teh broken bottle model (no indication that these non-white/non-grey items aren't available for mog)

[Super Kami Dende]

there's the argent crusader's tabard which you can't buy unless exalted with the faction. the tabard is bought with crusader seals from a vender you don't get to interact with until you're exalted.

I know that, but he said the Argent Crusade Tabard.

[SirCowdog]

No, as in "Not at all" full stop, so to speak.

WoD had plenty of rewards to be had for basically doing nothing, all it took was logging in. Look where that got the expansion. Most people don't tend to put a pixel reward above their own enjoyment from spending time in a game, what with free time being limited.

As for the rest, you're entitled to your opinions. I for one believe that if BfA and future expansions have the same formula blend as Legion, the game will be golden.

Non sequitur? What does people getting easy rewards through the Garrison have to do with the point I was making?

You know what else WoD had that people despised? Apexis grind. Why did people hate it? Because it was the same repetitive nonsense every day. THAT'S the kind of crap I'm arguing against.

In a lot of ways Legion's format is good. The only thing I think should change is taking all the rewards that are locked behind time-gated and rep grinds, and place them behind either actual story content progression (Suaramar without rep grinds) or difficult gameplay challenges (isle of thunder vault runs, mage tower, green fire, etc). Significant progress should absolutely NOT be locked behind time-locked Garrison quests that take literal days, or reputation grinds that can only be done 1 WQ at a time.

EDIT: spelling/grammar/killing the auto correct demon
EDIT2: edit to be less standoffish

[Regalbeast]

People hated tabards now they want them back? lol

[Duffie]

Leave my tabards alone please kty. I love them to much.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch.../zuljin/duffie
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/ch...dalaran/duffii
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/zuljin/acup

[arandomuser]

What if tabards were artifact quality, and you got them at exalted, and you had paragon points everytime you paragoned your rep, and you could get things like more gold from world quest, higher chance of rare loot, damage bonus in the area associated with the rep, little quirks you can keep working towards?

[Duffie]

What if tabards were artifact quality, and you got them at exalted, and you had paragon points everytime you paragoned your rep, and you could get things like more gold from world quest, higher chance of rare loot, damage bonus in the area associated with the rep, little quirks you can keep working towards?

I like this idea and i'd like to see a blizzard twist to it.

[elaina]

I preferred this method too, at least as a supplement / additional method of reputation. Way better than the time / quest gate.

[Jastall]

Eh, I understand their reasoning for going back to the old tabard rewarding system because they were originally prestige appearances meant to show off you busted your ass to exalted (Not that I give a shit about prestige these days).

What they need is an item with a reusable buff, lasts until canceled, that allows the player to "represent" a faction and all rep gains are applied to that faction and move forward. Or don't even make it an item, just remove all fucking pretense and make it a button you can press in the reputation menu.

They're kind of doing that in BfA. Scribes can create an item that makes all your WQs award reputation with a designated faction. That's a much better system than putting on a tabard, running dungeons ad nauseum and coming back for your reward if you ask me.

[Marston]

I remember in Cata you could purchase tabards after reaching a certain level of rep with a faction. Then when you did dungeons you got a little xp for each mob killed and little bit more for each boss killed. I really enjoyed doing those as it felt like I was making progress instead of waiting for the world quests to reset. I am a bit late to the Legion party so I am nowhere near all these people with the allied races. I wouldn't even mind if they gave 2 or 3 rep per mob, I just want to feel like I am making progress, not just waiting to do a few quests that give only 75 rep.

To be fair, this was the only way to get Rep in Cata for most factions. If I remember correctly, the only daily quests available at launch were Tol'Barad, Therazane and that 1 daily for the Tol'vir. All other factions had no daily quests, so you needed the tabards to even reach exalted.

[Jagroen]

They need to bring back the MoP tokens that could be bought at revered and increased the rep all characters on your account gained with that faction.

Exactly +1

I also wouldn't hate the medallion system they had for WoD to give rep to all factions, but still have it at a small drop rate and boa.

[yoma]

Exactly +1

I also wouldn't hate the medallion system they had for WoD to give rep to all factions, but still have it at a small drop rate and boa.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=153113

[SirCowdog]

What if tabards were artifact quality, and you got them at exalted, and you had paragon points everytime you paragoned your rep, and you could get things like more gold from world quest, higher chance of rare loot, damage bonus in the area associated with the rep, little quirks you can keep working towards?

• Use the old tabard system, but only give it as a reward for completing the final quest in the story for that faction.
• Make the story for each faction leave you at exalted when you finish the last quest in the story, and place additional cosmetic rewards or crafting mats or whatever as Paragon rewards for that faction. DO NOT LOCK CONTENT with rep!
• While wearing the tabard you get a tiny amount of bonus rep for doing anything: PvP, gathering, crafting, questing, WQs, dungeons, raids, whatever.

This way you don't skip the intended story/quest part of the faction, but aren't pigeonholed into specific grinds to further advance the rep. Each rep can still have specific objectives such as world quests or Dungeons associated with them for larger rep rewards, but the player can also choose to more or less passively persue rep rewards while focusing on the type of gameplay they really enjoy most.

[Kellorion]

I wish we could make our own non guild ones, like a blue lion gold field alliance one or a dark purple horde symbol and black background, or recreate the Brotherhood of the Horse symbol, or the Stormreavers or old school Gilnean one.

or let us have some of the never released ones like the Wotlk horde and Alliance faction ones, or from B.o.o.m, or the update Illidari one from Legion.

[Battlebeard]

I remember in Cata you could purchase tabards after reaching a certain level of rep with a faction. Then when you did dungeons you got a little xp for each mob killed and little bit more for each boss killed. I really enjoyed doing those as it felt like I was making progress instead of waiting for the world quests to reset. I am a bit late to the Legion party so I am nowhere near all these people with the allied races. I wouldn't even mind if they gave 2 or 3 rep per mob, I just want to feel like I am making progress, not just waiting to do a few quests that give only 75 rep.

I can only agree 100%. Especially since the Paragon mounts have a crazy low drop rate. But if we know Blizzard, if they added these kind of tabards, they prolly lower the mount drop rate even further, anything to keep us grinding...

[Queen of Hamsters]

the Argent Crusade Tabard is bought at Friendly. Which basically requires you doing 2 quests.

I meant the Argent Crusader's Tabard, obviously, since it's the one needing special requirements to buy yet can be transmogged by all characters on the account.

The difference between it and other Exalted tabards? It doesn't have the text in its tooltip which locks it to reputation status once purchased.

[Leih]

Well, I think that at current situation tabards would be cool but only in case when you are exalted with one character, you can buy account wide tabard and of course, within expansion level caps (ex 100-110).

Kind of like this idea, they could bring back the idea of dungeon tabards as an alt thing... make it easier to level reps for your alts after you've done it on one character.

[Brubear]

They need to bring back the MoP tokens that could be bought at revered and increased the rep all characters on your account gained with that faction.

I don't think they'll ever bring back the Cata system, but the MoP system really is something they should bring back.

Once you hit Exalted (that way they can force you to do thee grind once since they seem to hellbent on doing so) it doubles/triples rep gains account wide for that rep. Plus you should be able to designate one rep as your "Chosen" rep, and every question/dungeon you do gives you a small amount of rep. Not large enough to make running dungeons more efficient than questing, but enough that, if someone would much rather chain-run dungeons instead of doing quests over and over they can. Maybe don't let players champion reps until revered since Blizzard and other players want us to "experience the content"