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    possible solution to food stamps

    So was thinking today about how Trump is trying to turn food stamps into a blue apron like service. It occured to me that we already have this system in place. We give them to all of our military members on a daily basis. They're called MRE's. Why can't we use MREs for people on welfare?
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    Because it would be more expensive and deprive poor people of real food?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    Because it would be more expensive and deprive poor people of real food?
    why is it ok for our military members but not for welfare recipients?
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    That's simple, MRE's are expensive, loaded with sodium, and fuck up your body in the long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    why is it ok for our military members but not for welfare recipients?
    Logistics. Obviously it would be great to keep our armed forces eating the best meals but those aren't always logistically possible depending on where you drop a group of soldiers off at.
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    Think about the purpose of an MRE, now think about why it's a bad idea for people to eat them if they aren't the intended targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    why is it ok for our military members but not for welfare recipients?
    It's an emergency solution for soldiers in the field where field kitchens are not available. It's not suited for long term nutrition.

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    Let's put it this way, if a family of four were to eat three of them a day, that's roughly $87 a day in expenses. Yes, MREs are over $7.00 each. Now, admittedly, you would only want to feed them two a day, so change the math accordingly.

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    Because poor people aren't soldiers, giving what they already get is fine. It really isn't a matter of Poor vs Our Military BS.
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    Okay so the problem with people using food stamps to buy foods like steak that they sell on the streets to get money for drugs is sort of a real problem. It's more like people abusing EBT in general more than it is 'selling food for drugs', as the money you make from selling a measly 200-ish bucks or so in food is pretty meager. You can turn your 200 dollars in EBT into maybe 50 bucks once you account for the fact you have to sell the food off at a discount to other people.

    But still, the problem is there. The problem is also there with people who don't necessarily need EBT but manage to qualify for it anyways and then buy dumb shit with their food stamps, like candy and vanity foods.

    Saying "let's give people who need EBT prepared meals or bundles of raw vegetables/meats/etc" might look attractive at first glance, but it comes with a ridiculous oversight of costs and problems. You'd need to transport the food, you'd need to make sure the food arrives to the people who are going to get it, you need to make sure the food doesn't spoil in transit, you need to make sure you have distributors for the food, you need to pay people to plan and oversee and do legwork on the whole operation, etc. Not to mention what happens when your meal pack contains meat but the family is vegetarian, or what happens when the meal pack contains bread but the household is allergic to gluten?

    Bottom line is that even if there are some minor issues with EBT abuse, giving people prepared meals or raw foods is not a good alternative for a long list of reasons.

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    I don’t know why you or trump has an issue with food stamps ? Or TANF or SNAPs? Unless it’s not giving families enough money ?
    People working 2 jobs in the US (at least one part-time) - 7.8 Million (Roughly 4.9% of the workforce)

    People working 2 full-time jobs in the US - 360,000 (0.2% of the workforce)

    Average time worked weekly by the US Workforce - 34.5 hours

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    UBI would just be better.

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    How about get a fucking job and stop living off of other people? Don't fuck like animals and have kids you can't support. You know, be a responsible person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapadons View Post
    I don’t know why you or trump has an issue with food stamps ? Or TANF or SNAPs? Unless it’s not giving families enough money ?
    The main issue is that a large portion of SNAP users mis-use it, or don't even need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    So was thinking today about how Trump is trying to turn food stamps into a blue apron like service. It occured to me that we already have this system in place. We give them to all of our military members on a daily basis. They're called MRE's. Why can't we use MREs for people on welfare?
    Because MRE's are so bad they give their military families food stamps and food allowances each month instead of MRE's

    Also the vast majority of the military are not fed MRE's outside of a combat zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutpile View Post
    How about get a fucking job and stop living off of other people? Don't fuck like animals and have kids you can't support. You know, be a responsible person.
    First... Having a job is sometimes a requirement of SNAP. The jobs just don't pay enough.

    Second... Sometimes it's not so easy to just 'get a job'. Unemployment exists for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    why is it ok for our military members but not for welfare recipients?
    Military families are already getting food stamps and food allances so they do not have to eat MRE's. Most people in the military are not eating MRE's on a daily baisis

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    The main issue is that a large portion of SNAP users mis-use it, or don't even need it.
    and this citation is where? The study? The findings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutpile View Post
    How about get a fucking job and stop living off of other people? Don't fuck like animals and have kids you can't support. You know, be a responsible person.
    Most people whom receive food stamps are working poor.....not the non working

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutpile View Post
    How about get a fucking job and stop living off of other people? Don't fuck like animals and have kids you can't support. You know, be a responsible person.
    Can you tell that to all the old people on welfare (Social Security).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    The main issue is that a large portion of SNAP users mis-use it, or don't even need it.
    p.s we already had a huge thread about this in the last week


    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...e-SNAP-Program


    and to a lesser degree

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...itary-Families


    do we really need yet another one covering the same topics and embarrassing support of cutting help for the poor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    and this citation is where? The study? The findings?
    It's been a known thing for years. You haven't seen the whole "Woman feeds her dog lobster on welfare" hooplah?

    Basically we don't have a good system of tracking, organizing, or deciding who actually needs what. So they just are shutting it down.
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