Grom Hellscream and the Mag'har Allied Race

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Ya orcs are dicks I know that. You could atlest give the mainline orcs a little leeway if you wanted to as they were inslaved by demon blood. Grom wasn’t he’s just a bigger dick then the rest of the orcs.

The Orcs knew exactly what they were getting themselves in for when they drank the blood, Saurfang even admits this.

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let's recall the dumbest moment in WoD





The flirts and jokes indicate that the WoD orcs/Iron Horde are going to the Horde but what's not okay is that Grom seems to be the one being their leader into the Horde instead of us offing him and correcting the mistake.
Whelp.. one of the worst characters in the history of the game is becoming one of the Horde's faction leaders.

Not only does he decide to genocide against the Draenei once he decides to do it again against the people who freed him. Alliance got slapped in the face here once again.

The draenei are disruptive refugees who meddle in the affairs of whatever world they land on ultimately leading to its destruction. They are a plague in civilization form and deserve rightly so to be wiped out.

[omeomorfismo]

Right. Falling for a pretty juvenile trap is the sign of a bad leader.

We didn't "condemn 2 planets." The orcs did. They committed literal genocide and then tried to attack another planet. They lost and one of them went on to summon demons. We beat them and then we beat the demons. Everything we did was "good." Ignoring genocide because demons might come next is the "evil" action.

You can't start wars and then blame the people you attack for defending themselves. You can't use demon magic to power your magic portal and then blame people you attack when that magic gets out of control.

yep sure, but by this way, which leader is a good one? nelf leaders go entraped multiple times for emotional things, humans have basically a racial "trick/mindcontrol us" , thrall and vol'jin had trapped for multiple reasons, sylvanas had too trust in her skills and understimated varimathras, lor'themar is far from being a strong and unifying, guldan himself was too guided by his lusts, velen was a pussy passive for like 20k years condemning multiple planets to the legion, mekkatorque couldnt see his direct advisor. we can go endless this way.
grommash is basically the napoleon of azeroth, he conquer a planet, near conquer half of another and the only thing he did wrong was understimating our lust for survive. who can think that we could freed a damned crazy warlock and his council. really, who? both him and us know what guldan is and what he did, seriously freed, and not killing them, was one of the most strange things that happened in wod.
and demonic magic didnt get out of control, they used the 3 warlocks as batteries, entrapped and enslaved, we freed them and so they could reorganize and find allies. we condemned draenor and later azeroth, iron horde was far away from demonic corruption.

btw you speak about genocide like if half of our quests arent massacre entire annoying populations of other races, damn humans even eat murloc...
iron horde was bad not because they genocide but because they wanted genocide us

I would fully support Grom Hellscream joining if they gave him his WC2 voice back. That would be hilarious. I couldn't even take him less seriously than I do now.

lul, now i need anphetamine orcs as another subraces

[Florena]

The draenei are disruptive refugees who meddle in the affairs of whatever world they land on ultimately leading to its destruction. They are a plague in civilization form and deserve rightly so to be wiped out.

Draenei had little interaction with other cultures on draenor. Also without them no vindicaar amd no army of light, no imprisoning sargeras.

[Syegfryed]

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Him being tricked by garrosh is a bunch of bull. He is a grown ass orc he saw war and conquest and he wanted it. He made his choices and he chose to be a conqueror.

like we would give a damn about that, everyone want conquer things, he just have the wrong reasons because Garrosh told him to, and anyone in that position would believe in that,

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The Orcs knew exactly what they were getting themselves in for when they drank the blood, Saurfang even admits this.

they knew they trade themselves for powers, not about demons and the rest

[ohwell]

How about some proof that hes coming back. Not assume just cause some mag’har are getting added in. We don’t even know if it’s Warlords Mag’har or Outlands

Yes we do know it's WoD because of the jokes and quotes.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

like we would give a damn about that, everyone want conquer things, he just have the wrong reasons because Garrosh told him to, and anyone in that position would believe in that,

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they knew they trade themselves for powers, not about demons and the rest

The only race in the horde that has tried to commit genocide have been the orcs and even they know the orcs were dicks to do so and grom tried to wipe out the frost wolfs for not joining him. There is no feasible reason the horde would want any thing to do with him.

[Nekobe140]

Alliance orcs: confirmed

[Syegfryed]

The only race in the horde that has tried to commit genocide have been the orcs and even they know the orcs were dicks to do so and grom tried to wipe out the frost wolfs for not joining him. There is no feasible reason the horde would want any thing to do with him.

You are being rly naive on this

Sure grom tried to kill the frostwolves, before, but after gul'dan and archimonde they are good, they are orcs, they don't keep sorrow and other bullshit

and this crap about ~~muh genocide~~ is starting to be annoying, like is a big bad thing in wow

[In Ogres We Trust]

They have Strings that hint at both versions. Personally, I'm in favor of the Outland version, but you know, whatever... .

[brbshower]

Ahh, another thread where OP just pulls some random "this is definitely what is going to happen" right out of their arse, then proceeds to flip out like the sky is falling. Oh and OP, allied race leaders ARE NOT FACTION LEADERS. Thought I'd fix that for you cupcake

[Lorgar Aurelian]

You are being rly naive on this

Sure grom tried to kill the frostwolves, before, but after gul'dan and archimonde they are good, they are orcs, they don't keep sorrow and other bullshit

and this crap about ~~muh genocide~~ is starting to be annoying, like is a big bad thing in wow

It is a big thing in wow he horde stopped backing garrosh because he to wipe out or enslave all none orcs, grom wanted the same thing. Grom is no better then garrosh and the horde didn’t stand with garrosh why would they stand with grom?

[Deleted]

Draenei had little interaction with other cultures on draenor. Also without them no vindicaar amd no army of light, no imprisoning sargeras.

Without them no legion discovery of the orcs and subsequently no fel horde, no invasion of azeroth, no 1st, 2nd war etc. The draenei choosing an inhabited planet despite being fully aware that they were being chased by the legion is reprehensible and the untold orc lives lost and the death of draenor is their fault. Also lets not forget the untold humans, dwarves, elves etc. And no lich king. Wow as I'm writing this I just realized that it's all their fault.

[Syegfryed]

It is a big thing in wow he horde stopped backing garrosh because he to wipe out or enslave all none orcs, grom wanted the same thing. Grom is no better then garrosh and the horde didn’t stand with garrosh why would they stand with grom?

we stoped Garrosh because he want to kill everyone else, evn the orcs who don't share his view, Yet, saurfang was ok in giving him a second chance in makgrora

Grom only did because he though it was the right thing, now they know everything was a mistake made by Garrosh lies, os yes, they pretty much are ok in left everything int he past

[iamthedevil]

It just makes clear that the Mag'har are from AU Draenor, which we already knew, not that Grom will be joining us.

You missed the "Warchief Hellscream" part.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

he stoped Garrosh because he want to kill everyone else, evn the orcs who don't share his view, Yet, saurfang was ok in giving him a second chance in makgrora

Grom only did because he though it was the right thing, now they know everything was a mistake made by Garrosh lies, os yes, they pretty much are ok in left everything int he past

You are aware that grom wanted to do the exact thing garrosh did right? Even down to killing the frost wolfs for not joining up?
As thrall said to garrosh his decisions were his own. Grom is 1 for 1 the same as garrosh and there is no reason out side of poor writing that the horde would tolorate him.

[Stelio Kontos]

Man, didn't my Draenei kill enough of those aberrations in WoD? Oh well, time to get some more blood and orc brains on his hooves.

[Highwhale]

Without them no legion discovery of the orcs and subsequently no fel horde, no invasion of azeroth, no 1st, 2nd war etc. The draenei choosing an inhabited planet despite being fully aware that they were being chased by the legion is reprehensible and the untold orc lives lost and the death of draenor is their fault. Also lets not forget the untold humans, dwarves, elves etc. And no lich king. Wow as I'm writing this I just realized that it's all their fault.

No First/Second Wars no Alliance of Lordaeron = Zero chances against BL.

[Castrum]

lul, these Allicucks. Exterminate the Draenei now that Sargeras is locked-up. Keep their women for obvious reasons, but butcher those ugly tentacle-face men.

The Horde has never needed the Alliance's help. Hell, the Alliance can't even manage to beat the Horde when they outnumber them 10-to-1. You're lucky the Horde protects you from real threats while you go get nearly exterminated by gnolls or some other nuisance.

[Highwhale]

lul, these Allicucks. Exterminate the Draenei now that Sargeras is locked-up. Keep their women for obvious reasons, but butcher those ugly tentacle-face men.

The Horde has never needed the Alliance's help. Hell, the Alliance can't even manage to beat the Horde when they outnumber them 10-to-1. You're lucky the Horde protects you from real threats while you go get nearly exterminated by gnolls or some other nuisance.

And you allow dead elf women command you and mock you...