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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    Perfect, can't be a sanctuary state if he removes the thing we're offering sanctuary from. A win for everybody.
    Except for the citizens caught in gang violence from that hellhole spilling over, the people who actually immigrated properly and spent that fucking decade or so of bureaucratic hell that is our immigration system just to get a gigantic middle finger in the form of this bullshit stance you people have. But hey, at least you get to have some warm fuzzies the next time you hear about a five time deportee killing a girl, while high on scrounged pills from a trashcan, with a stolen gun... Win fucking win right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    There's a middle ground between being absent and acting like the gestapo, just fyi.
    You're not wrong, and I definitely had that on the back of my mind as I typed out that post. The context behind how Trump wants to run ICE, however, is obviously like the gestapo. I'm certainly okay with a wannabe dictator/racist disarming his own toys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    Except for the citizens caught in gang violence from that hellhole spilling over, the people who actually immigrated properly and spent that fucking decade or so of bureaucratic hell that is our immigration system just to get a gigantic middle finger in the form of this bullshit stance you people have. But hey, at least you get to have some warm fuzzies the next time you hear about a five time deportee killing a girl, while high on scrounged pills from a trashcan, with a stolen gun... Win fucking win right?
    Darn if only California had its own law enforcement officials to deal with violent criminals.


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    Trump and California have always been such a love-hate story. Especially hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Darn if only California had its own law enforcement officials to deal with violent criminals.


    Wait...
    yeah, they're so good at enforcing the law too, just a few million criminals that they refuse to enforce the law for... until you know, they murder someone, or rape someone, or start dealing drugs because "they just didn't have any other options".

    Maybe, just maybe, we could have some kind of law on the books, the kind of law that establishes a "border" that divides the obviously different countries along some imaginary line, and if you don't follow the proper protocol in crossing said line, you get removed and placed back on your appropriate side. but that's just the crazy pipe dream of a mad man isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    yeah, they're so good at enforcing the law too, just a few million criminals that they refuse to enforce the law for... until you know, they murder someone, or rape someone, or start dealing drugs because "they just didn't have any other options".

    Maybe, just maybe, we could have some kind of law on the books, the kind of law that establishes a "border" that divides the obviously different countries along some imaginary line, and if you don't follow the proper protocol in crossing said line, you get removed and placed back on your appropriate side. but that's just the crazy pipe dream of a mad man isn't it?
    If only they had deported him six times instead of five!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasuke06 View Post
    yeah, they're so good at enforcing the law too, just a few million criminals that they refuse to enforce the law for... until you know, they murder someone, or rape someone, or start dealing drugs because "they just didn't have any other options".
    That could be said of any criminal. All you've said is "there are people out there that could commit crimes!"

    Maybe, just maybe, we could have some kind of law on the books, the kind of law that establishes a "border" that divides the obviously different countries along some imaginary line, and if you don't follow the proper protocol in crossing said line, you get removed and placed back on your appropriate side. but that's just the crazy pipe dream of a mad man isn't it?
    California has decided it isn't so fervently rabid as Trump is about something that ultimately matters very little, and really doesn't care about Trump's attempt to lord power he doesn't have over them. Think about it; Trump has nothing California wants. They hold all the power in this situation.

    What can I say; California is striking back against big government overreach wherein the federal government tries to enforce its own pet platform in a state that doesn't want or need it.

    I thought conservatives loved shit like that. Or is that only when it comes to fighting to make sure bakeries don't have to make cakes for gay people or some such?
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    Another day another toothless Trump threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Thank you for pulling direct quotes, that makes it much better.

    Seriously, fuck everything about this man.
    Honestly, at this point anyone who still supports Trump is not a good person. They are as bad as he is because they can see what he says and does and instead of being appalled they CHEER HIM ON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    Just replenishing the ones that are tired. People already know that CA, NM, AZ and TX are chock full of Sanctuary Cities. Why he has decided to pick on California all of a sudden is crazy.

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    "Sanctuary city" a name solely designed by the talking heads on right wing media to whip gullible conservatives and "independents" into thinking these cities protect them from deportation, when in reality a sanctuary city is merely a city where the local law enforcement do not budget for capture, detainment, and deportation of undocumented migrants. The federal government gives them no money for the task of capture, detainment, and deportation, and there is no federal law stating that cities must use local law enforcement, since that is the ICE's job.

    Maybe Trump should push congress to pass a law that adds federal funding for local state law enforcement officials to take care of undocumented migrants? That is his job after all. Oh but wait, he'd rather just throw tantrums and the conservatives and "independents" will guzzle Trump's jizz without second thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    "Sanctuary city" a name solely designed by the talking heads on right wing media to whip gullible conservatives and "independents" into thinking these cities protect them from deportation, when in reality a sanctuary city is merely a city where the local law enforcement do not budget for capture, detainment, and deportation of undocumented migrants. The federal government gives them no money for the task of capture, detainment, and deportation, and there is no federal law stating that cities must use local law enforcement, since that is the ICE's job.

    Maybe Trump should push congress to pass a law that adds federal funding for local state law enforcement officials to take care of undocumented migrants? That is his job after all. Oh but wait, he'd rather just throw tantrums and the conservatives and "independents" will guzzle Trump's jizz without second thought.
    No matter how the name came to be nevertheless it exists my friend. And the cities themselves exist. I live near one.
    Even the current police chief recognizes Sanctuary City policies and is against federal legislation against it. One could construe he is pro-Sanctuary City if he is anti legislation against it. N
    Current estimates are there are ~1.4 million immigrants in Houston from countries all over the world. Of those, ~600,000 are illegal. The Houston metro area is one of the most diverse, if not the most diverse, cities in the US probably the entire world maybe the even the known universe(lol).

    The PotUS’s job is to take care of citizens my friend. Not other countries’ citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    The PotUS’s job is to take care of citizens my friend. Not other countries’ citizens.
    But apparently not when it's Puerto Rico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    But apparently not when it's Puerto Rico.

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    The MSM really tried so hard to make Maria his Katrina. But is just didn’t work much to their chagrin. They tried their damnest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    The MSM really tried so hard to make Maria his Katrina. But is just didn’t work much to their chagrin. They tried their damnest.

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    That’s too bad that even the fake democrat outrage, couldn’t really help Puerto Rico. Stupid MSM needed new tact to get them help...

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterhorus8 View Post
    But apparently not when it's Puerto Rico.

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    No, see, if MSM didn’t make such a big deal about it, everything would have been fine in Puerto Rico. They had to go and make a big deal during a Trump presidency... if they were quiet... then Trump would have done something... is it really so hard to pledge their allegiance to Trump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    The MSM really tried so hard to make Maria his Katrina. But is just didn’t work much to their chagrin. They tried their damnest.

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    Yup, care about the image and not the people. That's oh-so-classic you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    That’s too bad that even the fake democrat outrage, couldn’t really help Puerto Rico. Stupid MSM needed new tact to get them help...

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    No, see, if MSM didn’t make such a big deal about it, everything would have been fine in Puerto Rico. They had to go and make a big deal during a Trump presidency... if they were quiet... then Trump would have done something... is it really so hard to pledge their allegiance to Trump?
    I volunteered there. Logistics was a real issue.

    We are still dealing with Harvey in Houston to this day. People still haven’t gotten their homes into liveable shape. Harvey will exceed the cost of Katrina probably when it is all said and done.
    We had over 500,000 cars flooded here. FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND!!
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    Is crime in the so-called sanctuary cities that much worse than non-sanctuary cities? San Diego is a border town. Five crossing facilities with Tijuana. Including one directly to and from the Tijuana International Airport. Fifty five percent non-white population. It is one of the largest refugee resettlement destination in the US. Yet, despite the understaffed police department, crime is at all time low. Feel free to compare San Diego crime rate with any comparable size cities in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allybeboba View Post
    The MSM really tried so hard to make Maria his Katrina. But is just didn’t work much to their chagrin. They tried their damnest.

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    It was his Katrina. Hell, it still is with out badly the contracts have been handled and how far it still needs to go to be anywhere 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    Is crime in the so-called sanctuary cities that much worse than non-sanctuary cities? San Diego is a border town. Five crossing facilities with Tijuana. Including one directly to and from the Tijuana International Airport. Fifty five percent non-white population. It is one of the largest refugee resettlement destination in the US. Yet, despite the understaffed police department, crime is at all time low. Feel free to compare San Diego crime rate with any comparable size cities in the US.
    You would probably have to compare it to a “fly over state” city, in Nebraska or Iowa. Somewhere like that.
    List of “Sanctuary Cities”
    https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities...ies-and-States
    Another list
    http://www.apsanlaw.com/mlaw-246.Lis...ry-cities.html
    And another
    https://www.ilrc.org/local-enforcement-map
    That last one is a good indication of why California may be in the spotlight at the moment. It indicates their counties being the least cooperative with ICE.

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