Darion Mograin VS AU Blackhand

[mizeri]

darion would kill him then raise him as a ghoul then make him explode

[MikeBogina]

How did Darion grow facial hair?

Darion has death powers but if this came down to just a quick melee, Blackhand would probably crush him.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

They landed on Draenor 200 years before Opening of the dark portal during which time they fought the Ogre and after nearly constatly against the Bladewind clan. so that was the atleast 230 years of experience. He was at the forces that defated Gorians from Highmaul who Khadgar said where arcanely extremely powerful. Also Maraad was the one who killed the Imperator at that time, with Nobundo.

And Dorian raided naxx and beat the four horse men and got out alive while still a young Palladian.

[Darktbs]

How did Darion grow facial hair?

Darion has death powers but if this came down to just a quick melee, Blackhand would probably crush him.

He always had, but most of the time you couldn't see clearly due to the helms.

But if you want to see his face just look at the Ebon watcher

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=30377/the-ebon-watcher

[Deathbelf]

Darion before being empowered as a horseman would lose to Blackhand. However, with the power of a horseman he would be able to defeat Blackhand. It would still be very close though.

[Terongor]

And Dorian raided naxx and beat the four horse men and got out alive while still a young Palladian.

He wasn't alone had had quit powerful team. Also from that fight you can see Alexandros didn't expect him to strike because he was so terrified so he had an opening when he managed to do that. He also had the power of Ashbringer on his side at that point againust Korth'azz. Also Alexandros was frozen in place by Castilien so he couldn't move to dodge at that point and Korth'azz was too slow to free Alexandros.

Also Darion didn't defeat Zeliek he was unconscious because Branningan hit him in the head, Lady Blaumeux was killed by Grunn'Holde throwing axe which hit her in the head, Darion only managed to defeat Korth'azz because of the power of the ashbringer. In that fight Darion had Castilian, Grunn'Holde, Brannigan Thundermaul, Ferelyn Bloodscorn. All of them expecct Castilian was apart of the Argent Dawn and atleast two of them had skills with light magic and from the fight we can see that they are really underestimating Darion which gives him a huge edge.

Also Undeath are weak to light which gave them already an edge.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

He wasn't alone had had quit powerful team. Also from that fight you can see Alexandros didn't expect him to strike because he was so terrified so he had an opening when he managed to do that. He also had the power of Ashbringer on his side at that point againust Korth'azz. Also Alexandros was frozen in place by Castilien so he couldn't move to dodge at that point and Korth'azz was too slow to free Alexandros.

Also Darion didn't defeat Zeliek he was unconscious because Branningan hit him in the head, Lady Blaumeux was killed by Grunn'Holde throwing axe which hit her in the head, Darion only managed to defeat Korth'azz because of the power of the ashbringer. In that fight Darion had Castilian, Grunn'Holde, Brannigan Thundermaul, Ferelyn Bloodscorn. All of them expecct Castilian was apart of the Argent Dawn and atleast two of them had skills with light magic and from the fight we can see that they are really underestimating Darion which gives him a huge edge.

Also Undeath are weak to light which gave them already an edge.

even with any team he still went into naxx and came out alive with 2 of the 4 horse men dead. why don't you also go into detail about maraads battles or can you not because they don't give us details on thoses?

[Syegfryed]

tirion lost to a falling tower

i know that, but they are pretty much matched, before that.

If we go with Bias we can say he was weaker than Eitrigg, cause he "lost" to the building falling, when eitrigg not

orgin i don't know i don't care about orgin so I've never looked into it

yeah sure, you dont care, so don't count

garrosh was beating thrall the first times they fraught as thrall wasn't using his magic i'm pretty sure.

he use magic in the 2 fights, ins SoO he attack Garrosh with Lightining

it doesn't matter what really kills you wow doesn't have real physics.

Yeah thats why magic users don't always automatically win against non magic users, so i give this fight to Blackhand over the Death knight.

[Terongor]

even with any team he still went into naxx and came out alive with 2 of the 4 horse men dead. why don't you also go into detail about maraads battles or can you not because they don't give us details on thoses?

Yeah he came alive but badly hurt, with all his team dead. Chronicles didn't give us any specifics about the battles how Maraad fought in them , but we that he was skilled enought to be called one the most elite and second in command of the vindicators only who was superior to him in combat with the light was akama who was there when Velen escaped from Argus. Darion killing Alexandros was the same thing as Godfrey killing Sylvanas suprise attack that wasn't expected to a vital place which kills the target Darion would have died to a onehit from his father and overpowering a person with ashbringer isn't that big of a feat. Also we Korth'azz was tired from killing Darion allies and trying save Alexandros when on the other hand Darion didn't do much until he managed to muster up courage and stab his father in the neck which killed him.

the Battle was six against four from which one was knocked out early on which made 6 against 3. Losing one to suprise attack and then using one of the most powerful weapons on the whole world to kill another who has used alot of his strength on fighting doesn't and isn't in his full power doesn't show strength or skill from Darion.

[Xerra]

Rimefang > Blackhand, Darion.. hmm I think he would need a weapon or something special to help him. Either a dragon mount or use some kind of necrotic power to weaken Blackhand.

[Jastall]

Lore-wise, death knights are pretty much as powerful as you can be. Darion wins. Arthas was just a death knight and look at him - obviously Darion is no where near Arthas' strength but he definitely beats a big fiery orc.

Death Knight Arthas wasn't that powerful. He was about equal to pre-Skull Illidan.

AU Blackhand seems to be a bit more than just a big Orc to me, he's definitely empowered beyond that. Darion will make a good fight of it, sure, but the outcome is uncertain.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Yeah he came alive but badly hurt, with all his team dead. Chronicles didn't give us any specifics about the battles how Maraad fought in them , but we that he was skilled enought to be called one the most elite and second in command of the vindicators only who was superior to him in combat with the light was akama who was there when Velen escaped from Argus. Darion killing Alexandros was the same thing as Godfrey killing Sylvanas suprise attack that wasn't expected to a vital place which kills the target Darion would have died to a onehit from his father and overpowering a person with ashbringer isn't that big of a feat. Also we Korth'azz was tired from killing Darion allies and trying save Alexandros when on the other hand Darion didn't do much until he managed to muster up courage and stab his father in the neck which killed him.

the Battle was six against four from which one was knocked out early on which made 6 against 3. Losing one to suprise attack and then using one of the most powerful weapons on the whole world to kill another who has used alot of his strength on fighting doesn't and isn't in his full power doesn't show strength or skill from Darion.

first it wasn't a surprise attack they were openly fighting dorian used a gap in his father defense and used it to kill him.

second it was not 6 on 3 or even a surprise attack only three of them made it to the four horsemen and the horse men knew they were there before they attacked.

[Ironhorn]

Darion was not a paladin btw. He was a warrior the light that erupted with his death was not from him but the light reacting to his noble sacrifice.

Anyway Darion would win he has experience beating stronger opponents and as a horseman hes far more powerful than he ever was.

[Terongor]

first it wasn't a surprise attack they were openly fighting dorian used a gap in his father defense and used it to kill him.

second it was not 6 on 3 or even a surprise attack only three of them made it to the four horsemen and the horse men knew they were there before they attacked.

Alexandros wasn't prepared or expecting his son on hitting him there and couldn't defend himself from that attack because of the freeze spell. Also if your enemy isn't expecting you to hit at that point it still is a suprise attack. Also lady blammeuxx was killed by that orcs when he threw his axe at her face which she wasn't expecting. Also can't you see castilian there he is the guy who holds his staff on upper part of that picture and he was the one who froze Alexandros in place. Even that picture show four people made it. Also if I remember correctly they didn't fight all four of them the same time even.

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But yeah think what you wish I'm going to sleep.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Alexandros wasn't prepared or expecting his son on hitting him there and couldn't defend himself from that attack because of the freeze spell. Also if your enemy isn't expecting you to hit at that point it still is a suprise attack. Also lady blammeuxx was killed by that orcs when he threw his axe at her face which she wasn't expecting. Also can't you see castilian there he is the guy who holds his staff on upper part of that picture and he was the one who froze Alexandros in place. Even that picture show four people made it. Also if I remember correctly they didn't fight all four of them the same time even.

your right it was a 4v4 so my bad on that, but they did fight all 4 at once.

[Terongor]

your right it was a 4v4 so my bad on that, but they did fight all 4 at once.

From which Zeliek knocked out pretty early on by Darion allied when he died, orc died aswell blameux against each other. Darion at the start was facing his father and only got that one hit because cassillien froze alexandros in his place because Alexandross was just so focused so he let his guard down Korth'azz was still still not at his full power whe he had to face ashbringer. Fight is impresive, but Darions part of it is underwelming, He didn't that much. Most impresive one them was the orc who still could 1v1 blackhand.

Sorry couldn't resist but nighty night.

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

Deathknights in Lore are already very powerful. A Deathknight version of a decently powerful character would be even stronger. Darion could just deathgrip Blackhand and proceed to one shot him. Darion in Deathknight Mode could probably take on all the Warlords including Gul'dan.

[MikeBogina]

He always had, but most of the time you couldn't see clearly due to the helms.

But if you want to see his face just look at the Ebon watcher

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=30377/the-ebon-watcher

his in game model needs to be updated then because when he "died" he had no facial hair


they didn't even get the hair color right, they made him look like his brother.

[Kresh64]

This is an interesting match-up but I think Darion has the advantage here. Death Knights dont have many weaknesses outside of the Light and Darion is one of the most powerefull Death Knights currently being the leader of the Four Horsemen. His rune blade should be on par with Blackhands fire mace. AU Blackhand is definatley more powerfull than MU Blackhand but is still just an oversized orc warrior who also has fire enchanted armour and weapon. Hes bigger than your average orc but not as big as we see him in his raid encounter. In-game lore characters are always shown to be bigger then everyone else and raid bosses even bigger so his in-game model shouldnt be taken into account I mean just look at Kael'thas in Tempest Keep hes bigger than a vrykul.

[Mcbenchpress]

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