Are people just jealous of Sweden ?

[Deldavala]

You get taxed to hell there, no thanks.

In Norway, as a business owner, you dont get taxed to hell through income. I pay less taxes(percentage wise) now than I ever did as a salaried worker.

You do have to pay sales tax on everything though, but most people just shrugs it up as being a part of the normal price.

[Player Twelve]

If you think Sweden mismanages public money take a look at France

I don't understand how what France does is relevant to what I think the politicians are doing wrong in Sweden.

[Serenity91]

I'm fine here in germany.

[Deldavala]

Sweden like other northern european countries are the best countries to be in, in the world.

I wish all these countries would bundle up and make their own "europa".

- Norway
- Sweden
- Denmark
- Germany
- The Netherlands
- Luxembourg

The rest can kiss it.

Toss out Germany, Netherlands and Luxembourg. I want a NorSweMark.

[oxymoronic]

When I think "successful countries" I always have the nordics in mind.

successful sure but way too small to be significant in any shape or form. when you think of players on the world stage nordic countries do not come to mind. they down there with africa lol

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Sweden like other northern european countries are the best countries to be in, in the world.

I wish all these countries would bundle up and make their own "europa".

- Norway
- Sweden
- Denmark
- Germany
- The Netherlands
- Luxembourg

The rest can kiss it.

germany has other plans, sorry babe

[Deleted]

Sweden like other northern european countries are the best countries to be in, in the world.

I wish all these countries would bundle up and make their own "europa".

- Norway
- Sweden
- Denmark
- Germany
- The Netherlands
- Luxembourg

The rest can kiss it.

Netherlands and Luxembourg are nothing like the Scandinavian countries though. Not in politics, not in economical practices and not in culture.

[Tiwack]

You get taxed to hell there, no thanks.

Why do you think you don't benefit from that as well?

[Vaelorian]

Toss out Germany, Netherlands and Luxembourg. I want a NorSweMark.

You should atleast visit The Netherlands or research it. It is quite similar to the bundle of countries of your choice.
Germany I would understand. But it is quite a powerhouse in terms of economy. Germany would have to adept a lot towards more nordic systems. The Netherlands is quite a powerful economy too (in comparison to the number of people living there).

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germany has other plans, sorry babe

What other plans? Please elaborate. I am genuinly curious

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successful sure but way too small to be significant in any shape or form. when you think of players on the world stage nordic countries do not come to mind. they down there with africa lol

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germany has other plans, sorry babe

What are those "plans" you are talking about?

[Vankrys]

You should atleast visit The Netherlands or research it. It is quite similar to the bundle of countries of your choice.
Germany I would understand. But it is quite a powerhouse in terms of economy. Germany would have to adept a lot towards more nordic systems. The Netherlands is quite a powerful economy too (in comparison to the number of people living there).

Can you integrate Germany without its girlfriend France though. The two of them seems inseparable lately.

[Deleted]

I don't understand how what France does is relevant to what I think the politicians are doing wrong in Sweden.

If you compare the sums involved the Swedish people get worked up for a stolen candy bar while the French will dismiss private jets trips as normal

[Tiwack]

What function exactly? There's a gross mismanagement of the expenses that are paid for with tax money. It's not efficient in the slightest. We could do fine with 10% less income taxes if they used them more efficient instead of wasting it.

Best you can do is vote for the smart ones and replace them instead of letting them get away with it. Corruption and misappropriation of funds happens everywhere. Some even go so far as to call it part of doing business.

[Deleted]

What are those "plans" you are talking about?

Prob Third Reich

[Vaelorian]

Netherlands and Luxembourg are nothing like the Scandinavian countries though. Not in politics, not in economical practices and not in culture.

I beg to differ. Same (or atleast the same principles and can easily be adjusted) kind of social structure. Same kind of ideas on justice. Same kind of thought on pension. But we can agree to disagree. I don't mind.

[Deleted]

"I don't think it's reasonable to feed foreign immigratns from high state tax"
haha, I gues you are just jealous

[Deldavala]

You should atleast visit The Netherlands or research it. It is quite similar to the bundle of countries of your choice.
Germany I would understand. But it is quite a powerhouse in terms of economy. Germany would have to adept a lot towards more nordic systems. The Netherlands is quite a powerful economy too (in comparison to the number of people living there).

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What other plans? Please elaborate. I am genuinly curious

I know a lot about Netherlands and you would be a good fit economically. The reason I want a NorSweMark is more due to the fact that our history and culture is so intertwined. The language is basicly dialects of eachother, if some historical events didnt happen, we might already be the same country since we share so much shared ancestry.

[Vaelorian]

Can you integrate Germany without its girlfriend France though. The two of them seems inseparable lately.

I would always exclude France. Just see how they treat their roads, their healthcare, their pensions etc.

[Schn00bins]

Netherlands and Luxembourg are nothing like the Scandinavian countries though. Not in politics, not in economical practices and not in culture.

I disagree, obviously I do not know what part of the NL you come from.
Been living in Denmark for give or take 2 - 3 years now and the differences are so little that every once in a while it feels like walking around on dutch soil.

[Torto]

We all love Sweden, which is why we get so pissed watching socialist left wing governments so determined to destroy it.

[Vaelorian]

I know a lot about Netherlands and you would be a good fit economically. The reason I want a NorSweMark is more due to the fact that our history and culture is so intertwined. The language is basicly dialects of eachother, if some historical events didnt happen, we might already be the same country since we share so much shared ancestry.

That is true. Strangely enough, the Netherlands has a province that has a strong dialect that resembles Danish quite a bit. It is not the same obviously, I think it got derailed a few centuries ago.

I am considering the nordic countries together with The Netherlands mainly due to healthcare, economy, mindset, how the roads are treated, schooling etc.
I am honestly convinced that if we get all the countries together and those in charge cherry pick the best ideas/systems from those countries - it would be really really great. Imagine our Football team haha