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Honestly, I think they'll just semi-retire Cap. Let Evans shift into directing if he wants, don't give anyone else the shield, use it as a touchstone. Hang it on Avengers HQ hall as a reminder.
And then in like 10-15 years, when all the shit is seriously hitting the fan again, we just see a hand reach out and take up the shield. And Evans can walk back out and fuck up some dudes as Cap, all over again, as a cameo.
They don't need to kill characters, at this point. But the MCU moves slowly enough, and the Marvel universe is deep enough, to just let the current headliners retire and let some new faces come up. It bears remembering that the reason Iron Man and Thor and Cap were all available to the MCU was because no other studios had wanted them. Most of the other popular heroes had been snapped up by various other production companies are their obligations were tied up. These guys might be the heavyweights of the MCU now (and their comics lines are doing great as a result), but they were not the A-list heroes when the MCU started up. Hell, a ton of people had no real clue who the Guardians of the Galaxy were, when that film got announced.
And now, those rights are being brought/bought back, so Marvel can continue to tell an evolving story with a revolving suite of heroes, cycling in for their 1-3-movies-and-a-teamup profile. I totally believe Marvel can make these new (old) characters great, because they've done such a fantastic job with this group. Especially when they don't need to fully retire older characters, just let them hang back for the occasional cameo.
I could see it playing out this way, but feel like we're going to get a death in IW regardless. I suppose we'll see in a few months!
What we do know though is that the post IW MCU is supposed to be radically different, and from that perspective I could see them retiring the shield rather than passing it on anytime soon.
The Truman Show is the one that comes to mind. Also some movie about a movie theater that I didn't see.
I can't see Jim Carrey as Doom though, even though he does seem to play a serious role quite well.
That would actually be a good setup for a Strange film, IMO. Strange is trying to establish himself as the new Sorcerer Supreme, but he's not the only contender. Not just Mordo, but someone outside their school, a man nobody knows much about from Latveria, a Viktor von Doom. Cue epic magical shenanigans in a three-way fight for the top.
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Oh, we're DEFINITELY getting a death in IW. I'll be flabbergasted if we don't. I'm just poking at the idea that there's plenty of ways to retire a character without killing them off.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Truman Show. The Number 23 (generally panned but I haven't seen it). Arguably Man on the Moon.
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Did you watch a different movie than I did? Mordo walked away at the end of Doctor Strange because Strange was too reckless and Mordo assumed he'd lead them all to ruin. He was adamantly opposed to Strange's viewpoint, but he wasn't murderous about it.
That's why I think it's a good layout. You've got Doom, at the "my way or DIE" end of things, Mordo at the "we have rules for a REASON" other end, and Strange in the middle. Mordo and Doom present the extremes, Strange finds the middle path.
In D&D terms, Doom is Lawful Evil, Mordo is Lawful Neutral, and Strange is Chaotic Good, sorta.
I'll be rewatching it soon, but iirc, Mordo's new philosophy is that no one deserves magic and he intends to do whatever he can to eradicate it. He tracked the guy down who was using magic just so he could use his legs and took that away from him, for example. Definitely more than a beef with Strange.
Hell yeah, two of his best films are on the serious side. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a total mindfuck of a film and Truman show is the film that put Carrey on a LOT of people's radar.
Then you have films like Number 23 which was his attempt at Horror (didn't go well) and Man on The Moon, where he plays Andy Kaufman and is freakin AMAZING.
Indeed, I think it's safe to say that Strange vs Mordo is going to be the plot for film 2. But to wrap up the trilogy, I could see them bringing in Doom as a REAL challenger.
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Imagine being tunnelvisioned the moment you see a female or black in any superhero/sci-fi movie, and pointing your fingers and screaming "SJW!!"
Fucking fatass neckbeards lmao
I think those you mentioned would be awesome, and I would've made the first two my own. Didn't know there was such a thing as "Young Avengers" but it sounds cool. Anyway, I'm gonna go with these:
- That they don't make multiverses a part of the MCU in any way that is substantial. I would hate that. That could potentially ruin the franchise for me.
- That they don't merge the 20th Century Fox X-Men into the MCU. They should let 20th Century Fox (once it is a subsidiary of Disney) complete their run with the X-Men, then after a couple of years reboot it and begin to introduce the X-Men into the MCU at a moderate pace.
- That Disney will buy back the rights to Spider-Man and be able to use him and all of his associated characters in exactly the way they want for the next 20 years. And I hope Tom Holland keeps to the mind-set that he would be game for playing Spider-Man for 20 years.
I think there is such a thing as comic book superheroes being too true to life.
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Not to everybody. I know parents who won't let their kids read Spider-Man because it occasionally shows him in bed with women who are not his wife. Plenty of normal people feel the same way.
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We need Riri Williams. Wait. We can get Storm and Black Panther to really piss people off!
Actually, real talk, Sony shold do Miles Morales since the MCU is renting Peter Parker.
My MCU wants:
The Netflix heroes make into a mainstream movie, even if they just have small cameos.
X-Men incorporated into the MCU but allowed to remain the more adult/dark/complicated branch of heroes that Fox made them out to be.
See above for Deadpool but no complicated or taken seriously.
Officially retire the Avengers. They could go with passing down various titles like Iron Man and Captain America but I'm not sure if that would work in the movies like it does in the comings.
Hulk needs a movie
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