Your guess on WoW's business direction based on what we know so far.

[Blamblam41]

WHOA? Are you saying a Business is trying to make money in ways it knows how to?

How unprecedented.

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Or the fact people are boosting Characters/using Allied races then asking for a refund. meaning they've already experienced the Game and want their money back.

It isn't Greed, it is people being unable to understand simple business practices.

It'd be like playing an Early Access Game, playing as much of it as you want, then asking for a refund before it releases.

Is the term "fair and open capitalism" seriously that lost on you woke independent cucks?

I'm dead serious. This is a theme going far beyond just Warcraft and seems to permeate your entire thought structure.

[Deleted]

All your posts indicate is someone butthurt they couldnt abuse some system anymore.

What i can guess happened, some people refunded the game while using the boost or whatever claims they had bla bla bla and this way this cant happen again.

To the OP.

Whatever fluff they add to boost money from the million of people looking for a change but without changing the game is their business, smart one also.

As long as it doesnt affect the development/progression of raids/character, couldnt care less.

I haven't purchased the game yet, and I won't until the game is released. I'm just pointing out the mysterious changes in Blizzard's refund policy and it's direct correlation to it's downfall into the same spiral EA games has fallen into.

[potis]

I haven't purchased the game yet, and I won't until the game is released. I'm just pointing out the mysterious changes in Blizzard's refund policy and it's direct correlation to it's downfall into the same spiral EA games has fallen into.

Which is quite easy to guess as to why:

Pre-order-->use boost-->Tell bank to get the money back or whine at blizzard for something something-->Eventually a few will get through because some employ didnt know better 2 years ago-->Blizzard gets scammed-->Blizzard changes policy.

Blaming the company when the consumers are at fault is adorable.

We arent talking obvious scam as EA games, Blizzard games are at the most perfectly fine still which as i said, they can add as many pointless races/fluff they want, as long as it doesnt hinder the development of the rest part of the game i couldnt care less.

And anyone crying over these type of stuff in 2018 is being a clueless whiny baby.

Fluff and MTX and pointless pretty colors have been thing for at least 6 years now, its how companies make money, the delusion of "Free" stuff included also.

[Aggrophobic]

So in short - Milk as much money as you can befor everyone leaves instead of actually making the game better.
Sounds "great".

[Super Kami Dende]

If I buy a game from gamestop or many other respectable businesses and I play the game, I can bring it back whether or not I've experience the game. The "you've experienced the game already" is a weak argument and even weaker when you take into account that this is a Pre purchase to a game that isn't even released yet.

In case you missed the point, this is the first expansion that this has been done which indicates a decline in Blizzard revenue. So yes, it is greed when a company changes a policy that the only reasoning for the outcome is to increase revenue and reduce the amount of refunds they have to give.

It doesn't indicate anything of the sort, you are literally tiring to correlate things just to get your narrative across.

Also:
>gamestop
>respectable

choose one lol.

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Is the term "fair and open capitalism" seriously that lost on you woke independent cucks?

What's not fair and open about it, it literally tells you when you preorder that if you use either the Boost or unlock the races it will not be refunded. Thus you are agreeing to terms of purchase.

People being idiots that can't read doesn't make something "unfair". It's why morons still die from drinking poison even when its labelled to not drink it.

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Which is quite easy to guess as to why:

Pre-order-->use boost-->Tell bank to get the money back or whine at blizzard for something something-->Eventually a few will get through because some employ didnt know better 2 years ago-->Blizzard gets scammed-->Blizzard changes policy.

I think you missed the part as to where this policy is brand new and didn't exist until BfA. Previously you could get a refund on the pre purchase without any complications.

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It doesn't indicate anything of the sort, you are literally tiring to correlate things just to get your narrative across.

Also:
>gamestop
>respectable

Changing a policy mysterious without explanation to limit the amount of refunds you have to give is a direct correlation to a need for increased revenue aka greed or a declining revenue are the only two possibilities. I have numerous degrees in areas like statistics, mathematics, businesses administration and economics. I know how these things work.

[Chaosweaver]

Pretty sure realm change has been around since TBC and the rest of the services like race/faction change since Wrath/Cata. Your post is implying that this is something new and Blizzard is just now implementing those options.

[Teri]

Pretty sure realm change has been around since TBC and the rest of the services like race/faction change since Wrath/Cata. Your post is implying that this is something new and Blizzard is just now implementing those options.

Realm changes were in during Naxx 40, we had our guild's priest who happened to have Atiesh splinters jump ship... GG.

[Deleted]

Terms and conditions change. It's your responsibility as a consumer to know what you're buying and agreeing to.

Legally and financially Blizzard did nothing wrong. But if you just look at companies only from a legal and finance standpoint than EA games is a perfect company. The issue lies with company morals and Blizzard has lost theirs.

[Twdft]

Whatever happened to "bear the consequence of your action"?

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Whatever happened to "bear the consequence of your action"?

Millennials happened

[Deleted]

And you know for sure they used to have these "morals" before, but somehow misplaced them somewhere in recent months?
Look man, sorry you lost your $50 bucks and can't live without it, but it really is the consumer who has the responsibility to check these things.

Whatever "morals" or "ethics" companies might have, is certainly interesting to think about but they are really hard to quantify and compare - especially in OPED forum threads like this.

EA's lootboxes are certainly very anti-consumer - but they're not quite directly comparable to Blizzard refusing to refund products that have been used.

Again, I stated I haven't purchased the expansion yet. I refuse to pre purchased anything. Getting a refund from EA games is sometimes a very difficult and lengthy process, Blizzard has surpassed EA's in that field.

[Onikaroshi]

Again, I stated I haven't purchased the expansion yet. I refuse to pre purchased anything. Getting a refund from EA games is sometimes a very difficult and lengthy process, Blizzard has surpassed EA's in that field.

The refund policy is listed before purchasing... if you don't agree with (not you since you didn't prepurchase, but people in general), or can't the take the time to see you're agreeing with, the fact you can't refund after using the boost or unlocking allied races, its your problem.

[Deleted]

So.. like why are you here crying about refunds then? Just for the kicks?
Anyhow, cool story bro, but that doesn't change the point. That part is up to the consumer and whatever ethics and morals you project on a corporation - they can't be quantified.

I, unlike most people including you, care about the welfare of the players around me. That's why I'm here to vouch on their behalf. And with my experience on how businesses and corporations operate I can tell you what is morally correct and what isn't.

Feb 2018, that says enough.

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The refund policy is listed before purchasing... if you don't agree with (not you since you didn't prepurchase, but people in general), or can't the take the time to see you're agreeing with, the fact you can't refund after using the boost or unlocking allied races, its your problem.

Like I said, nothing legally or financially is wrong with this situation. It's a moral issue with the company.

[Onikaroshi]

I, unlike most people including you, care about the welfare of the players around me. That's why I'm here to vouch on their behalf. And with my experience on how businesses and corporations operate I can tell you what is morally correct and what isn't.

Feb 2018, that says enough.

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Like I said, nothing legally or financially is wrong with this situation. It's a moral issue with the company.

It's nothing moral based even though? A morality issue would come if they DIDN'T say those things and then denied the refunds. The said as clear as can be that if you do this you do not get a refund, that is moral and ethical.

[Beckers]

More RNG. More world quests. More time consuming things so they can report played time instead of subscriptions and pretend everything is fine.

But everything is fine. More than fine.

The fact that WoW is more profitable than ever just makes sure that the players that still enjoy the game can still play without fear of server shutdown.

Times changes and because of it, so do business models.

[Deleted]

They're publicly traded, so you can actually follow their economical health on quarterly basis. It seems they've been raking in the dough just fine so far.

Indeed and I do follow Activision Blizzard's quarterly reports. But a massive upheaval is coming and change but we aren't anywhere near there yet. I don't want to look like the proverbial doomsayer either.

But consider more Free To Play options, Blizz, for your future proofing, like EVE Online has done. It has kept EVE alive after some nasty metaphorical cataclysm's. Food for thought.

[Twdft]

Like I said, nothing legally or financially is wrong with this situation. It's a moral issue with the company.

You do know that some support guy has to look into every refund and also sending money isn't free? Blizzard looses money with every refund and requiring that you doesn't use it if you want a refund isn't morally wrong at all.

[fishoa]

They realized by now that there's no way to get the avg. subscribers number up, as the game is pretty old already and whoever had to experience WoW, probably did already. That means that they know that people buy the new expansion, see what's new, leave after some months and then come back after the next expansion gets announced. In other words, it works much like the WWE Network: Wrestlemania and Summerslam are coming, you subscribe; after that, you may or may not stay subscribed (most don't).

Their business model probably shifted from "getting retention percentage up" to "getting more money from the current players", be it by making them stay subscribed (layers upon layers of RNG on everything, fear of missing out) or via microtransactions (transfers, boosts).

[druenos]

My biggest concern is Blizz will overstretch with their releases & plans and overspend, and if the money stops coming in because of a spending reduction by the general public not wanting to pay for old games then Blizz will collapse with massive debts growing.

Going completely free to play might save Blizz but I doubt they are interested in that path.

Why would going free to play " save " wow when the subcription model makes them hundreds of millions a year?