Trump suggests death penalty for drug dealers.

[Dr Assbandit]

I think I can an safely say that this is just one of many stupid suggestions by Trump and those championing it such as those in this thread and his ardent cheerleading squad are made in his image to not be able to see the ramifications of what he's suggesting.

[RobertoCarlos]

In fact, there's a significant body of research that shows that unhappiness is the leading cause for why people become addicted.

I dont think many would disagree with the correlation, it makes sense.

However, it takes a bit more than being "unhappy" to over dose on heroin on a mattress in a boarded up run down apartment, surrounded by homeless and criminals.

The brain chemistry is fucked where you are constantly chasing pleasure and cannot be satiated

[Fattypudds]

Someone should suggest new penalties for lying cheating corrupt presidents like Trump

[DrMcNinja]

There is only one response that truly embodies how I feel about this.

[Lionhearte0]

Not a bad idea. Fuck those """people""" - if you can call them that. When can we start killing them off the street ourselves? I'll do it for free.

[s_bushido]

Awesome does not do Trump justice. I think he will be recorded as the greatest president ever and one of history's greatest leaders. Drug dealers do need the death penalty, as do many other offenses. Harsher punishments lessen crime. What other great things can he suggest and possibly make happen? Keep it up Trump. Make the left scream in agony.

lol That was a fascinating trip to Bizarro World. Reality seems so mundane by comparison.

[Azadina]

Someone should suggest new penalties for lying cheating corrupt presidents like Trump

In a way he did.

"kill 5,000 people with drugs because you're smuggling them in and you're making a lot of money and people are dying,"

His words. Now change that into "kill 5000 people by meddling with healthcare without a clue about it, and you're making a lot of money and people are dying"

Death penalty for such amount of indirectly killed people seemed to be the core of his idea.

[Sandraudiga]

The article also states life imprisonment, but hey lets all play the same game of bash the buffoon that we all play here on MMO Champ.

In my eyes plenty of crimes deserve the death penalty. If you are caught smuggling 5,000 kilos of cocaine into a county then yes you should be taken out the back and shot in the head. If you sexually abuse a child you should get the same, 1st degree or mass murder the same, and more that I won't bother to list.

Keeping someone alive without the possibility of ever being released is punishing the taxpayer. Prison should be for people with a genuine chance at rehabilitation and they way they are run needs to be radically changed. At the moment they are completely useless at attempting to reintegrate prisoners into society in the majority of cases.

The prison guard lobby, like other lobbies hold way too much political power. They push for harsher and longer sentences because when what we need is a complete reform of the system entirely.

Of course neither of these will ever happen so we'll just keep chugging along with the Trump bashing regardless of whether he deserves it today or not.

[Torto]

While it certainly sounds controversial, I'd.......oh....wait, it's CNN.

Fake news everybody, you can all go back to sleep.

[Tech614]

If you are caught smuggling 5,000 kilos of cocaine into a county then yes you should be taken out the back and shot in the head.

Coke should be the least of anyones concern.

Heroin, Meth and Crack(yes while technically coke, we're talking a very tiny amount mixed with a majority of cheaper dangerous chemicals) along with prescription pain killers which lead to the former are the drugs this country has a crisis with. A few rich people might OD on Crack a year, but there is like 100+ a day in states like Ohio to those much cheaper and dangerous drugs.

Want to fix the actual dangerous drugs? Get the fuck rid of prescription painkillers and give those patients Marijuana and physical therapy instead. 1) it gets the drugs out of being sold to the street and 2) those are healthier and more effective alternatives for the people that actually need the pain relief. Most sane people will not touch something like Heroin, they do it because they get to a point where they're desperate the pain killers start costing too much to get them their high and their brain starts thinking the cheaper alternative with a lot more kick sounds great.

The death penalty is a sham anyways, the gov spends more money on appeals for them then they would have just feeding them for the rest of their life and the prisoner get's off the easy way with a (usually)painless death instead of spending the rest of their life miserable and being someones bottom bitch.

[d00mGuArD]

The number of drug dealer sympathizers and apologists in this thread, is probably bigger issue than the things Trump says

I get why people may sympathize with drug users or addicts. Ok, those people have problems and need help

But drug dealers? Death penalty is too soft punishment

[shimerra]

While it certainly sounds controversial, I'd.......oh....wait, it's CNN.

Fake news everybody, you can all go back to sleep.

I mean we are all falling no asleep waiting for you to make an intelligent contribution to any thread you post in.

[Azadina]

Then he better start with Pfizer’s executives.

Not familiar with that one.

[Mosotti]

No one is defending what they do. The death sentence is usually given to people who do the most extreme and heinous crimes. It’s given to criminals who do unspeakable things... things we just can’t comprehend anyone doing because they can be that evil. Dealing drugs isn’t one of these things.

You do realize that drug dealers not only deal drugs, RIGHT?

But even if we consider that they only deal drugs, tell me, what's more heinous, to kill someone with a gun, or to destroy the lives (or even kill) hundreds or thousands of people? Why would you even allow someone like this to live? How can you expect anything to change in this sick society if no drastic measures are taken? Can you imagine a country like China with a western legal system? Isn't it fucking ironic that it's safer to walk the streets of a "third country" than the streets of US for example?

[Dovashy]

We don't need executions, that's crazy. Instead, I'd suggest we let Trump do what he does best and market the prisons with his brand. I see a money making opportunity here, people! I mean, after all, why are prisons if not a hotel you get to stay at for a determined amount of time? Sure you can't leave and the accommodations sorta suck, but you got everything you need there anyway, why would you wanna?
Though why stop there. Each inmate can be an employee, work for their keep by making "Make America Great Again" hats and accessories. Would bring some manufacturing jobs back to the US, and would save a ton of money as he wouldn't even need to pay them. Trump has a history of avoiding that sorta thing anyway.

[Tech614]

You do realize that drug dealers not only deal drugs, RIGHT?

But even if we consider that they only deal drugs, tell me, what's more heinous, to kill someone with a gun, or to destroy the lives (or even kill) hundreds or thousands of people? Why would you even allow someone like this to live? How can you expect anything to change in this sick society if no drastic measures are taken? Can you imagine a country like China with a western legal system? Isn't it fucking ironic that it's safer to walk the streets of a "third country" than the streets of US for example?

I don't think you understand what a drug dealer is or how they get made.

A drug dealer(IE the person an addict calls and meets up with to exchange money for drugs) is just a pawn, usually brought into the game early. They get kids to start doing drops at 12-14 because they don't understand what they're doing and they get cheese in their pocket. Once you get into it, kind of hard to get out of it while keeping your life.

The actual people behind the drugs, and the reason they are available to be sold would never be stupid enough to be the ones doing a transaction. Their hands are usually squeeky clean, and even when the police know who they are they still never get any evidence to convict.

You want to give the death penalty to pawns? You can go right ahead, there will be 20 more lining up right behind the one you killed. You accomplish jack shit.

[RobertoCarlos]

I don't think you understand what a drug dealer is or how they get made.

A drug dealer(IE the person an addict calls and meets up with to exchange money for drugs) is just a pawn, usually brought into the game early. They get kids to start doing drops at 12-14 because they don't understand what they're doing and they get cheese in their pocket. Once you get into it, kind of hard to get out of it while keeping your life.

The actual people behind the drugs, and the reason they are available to be sold would never be stupid enough to be the ones doing a transaction. Their hands are usually squeeky clean, and even when the police know who they are they still never get any evidence to convict.

You want to give the death penalty to pawns? You can go right ahead, there will be 20 more lining up right behind the one you killed. You accomplish jack shit.

You talk like a man who has watched and appreciated the wire



i agree with you btw

[Aggrophobic]

America decent into a third world society, slow and painful to watch.

This, pretty much. Painful and sad.

[zealo]

You do realize that drug dealers not only deal drugs, RIGHT?

But even if we consider that they only deal drugs, tell me, what's more heinous, to kill someone with a gun, or to destroy the lives (or even kill) hundreds or thousands of people? Why would you even allow someone like this to live? How can you expect anything to change in this sick society if no drastic measures are taken? Can you imagine a country like China with a western legal system? Isn't it fucking ironic that it's safer to walk the streets of a "third country" than the streets of US for example?

You see, from a legal viewpoint that's a different crime done in addition to the drug dealing if they hurt or kill someone, not baked into a singular drug dealing offence. The judicial system usually isn't in the business of punishing people for crimes they haven't done unless they're found to also have done that additional thing.

That's all aside from that the US is about the only major western country that still hasn't abolished capital punishment completely.

[justandulas]

Let me just go ahead and say i DISAGREE strongly with the president here. That said, we are too lenient on drug dealers. I don't mean pot, or even coke dealers. I'm talking the heroin dealers who cut their drugs with rat poison and other things to step on it and make more money. I'm talking the fentynol (spelling?) dealers who won't touch it themselves without rubber gloves but have no issue handing it off to 16 year olds.

Our drug laws need to reflect the seriousness of the drug instead of just blanket stating the entire drug community together. I mean, alcohol will kill more people by the time you read this sentence than pot will in a lifetime but alcohol is still legal.

Also, where does this leave the doctors? Their prescription drugs kill thousands a year, will they be facing the same penalties? If i have a heart problem and i'm prescribed viagra and die; does he get sentenced the same as a heroin dealer would?

I get that Trump has a hard on against all vices (he doesnt even drink surprisingly!) but there's no way to enforce what he wants to do. We aren't gonna be executing the top dogs of the drug war; we'd be executing foot soldiers and kids.