Trump suggests death penalty for drug dealers.

[Voidwielder]

So... where's the problem?

[crusadernero]

Imagine a weak soul who begins to sell weed. On his first night of trying to find customers he is caught by the police. Only a totalitarian regime on par with North Korea would sentence that man to death.

US aint that far from it. They put people in prison for many, many years if they get caught with just a little bit of drug.

[Sky High]

We're talking about the leader of a crime family wanting to put to death leaders of crime organizations. The irony is delicious.

and you can't tell me for a fucking second that Trump didn't buy coke from those guys or at least invited them to his coke orgies.

[justflayin]

He giving the doctors that over prescribe the death penalty too?

[andy123456]

drug dealers do know that they are destroying other people life. At least major drug leader leader should be executed.some people are beyond help and not the worth of feeding them in jail for entire of their life.

[Maybach]

He just keeps coming out with controversial crap to distract everyone from the shit show the White House now is

Why is anyone surprised anymore?

[Delana]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Please clarify. Unless you're agreeing with me, which I can almost see from what you said, but don't think you actually are.

I'm saying that drug use results in broken lives and lost potential. Unfunctional addicts end up sore disappointments to themselves and drains on their countrymen. Allowing more people to fall victim to addiction, by turning a blind eye to drug merchants, is not "progress" in any sense of the word.

I agree with you that the war on drugs has been a fairly spectacular failure. That said, I don't think the answer is to simply allow and celebrate a behavior that results in the destruction of lives. Clearly criminalizing the addicts is harmful and self destructive. Criminalizing the distribution with a punishment heavy handed enough to actually get captured individuals to rat out the bigger fish, instead of staying quiet because they are intimidated by the cartel, is one way to get serious about the problem. You, on the other hand, seem to be contending that it's not a problem. I guess that's a valid opinion, but the people that have lost their children and their futures to addiction would probably disagree.

[Machismo]

Not a bad idea. Fuck those """people""" - if you can call them that. When can we start killing them off the street ourselves? I'll do it for free.

How very fascist of you.

[Delana]

Imagine a weak soul who begins to sell weed. On his first night of trying to find customers he is caught by the police. Only a totalitarian regime on par with North Korea would sentence that man to death.

Did he know the cost of his crime before hand? Imagine a weak soul that kills some asshole in the street over a disagreement. Only a totalitarian regime on par with north Korea would sentence that man to death.

See, it's ridiculous when the offender knew the cost of the crime, and the crime is objectively terrible.

[cubby]

I'm saying that drug use results in broken lives and lost potential. Unfunctional addicts end up sore disappointments to themselves and drains on their countrymen. Allowing more people to fall victim to addiction, by turning a blind eye to drug merchants, is not "progress" in any sense of the word.

I agree with you that the war on drugs has been a fairly spectacular failure. That said, I don't think the answer is to simply allow and celebrate a behavior that results in the destruction of lives. Clearly criminalizing the addicts is harmful and self destructive. Criminalizing the distribution with a punishment heavy handed enough to actually get captured individuals to rat out the bigger fish, instead of staying quiet because they are intimidated by the cartel, is one way to get serious about the problem. You, on the other hand, seem to be contending that it's not a problem. I guess that's a valid opinion, but the people that have lost their children and their futures to addiction would probably disagree.

Where are you seeing that I'm not saying that's the problem. I agree with just about everything you've said here. I just don't think the death penalty is necessary for drug dealers. Punish them? Definitely.

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Did he know the cost of his crime before hand? Imagine a weak soul that kills some asshole in the street over a disagreement. Only a totalitarian regime on par with north Korea would sentence that man to death.

See, it's ridiculous when the offender knew the cost of the crime, and the crime is objectively terrible.

You realize that marajuana distribution in the United States is completely uncertain right now, right? Depending on what state you're in, there is no certainty as to what, if any, crime you're committing.

Combine that with the debacle of cocaine vs crack and it's possible we need to rethink the entire issue.

[araine]

this is all donny being desperate to draw attention away from his russia scandal and his scandal with porn stars. really folks it is donny being desperate to change the subject

[Azadina]

Where are you seeing that I'm not saying that's the problem. I agree with just about everything you've said here. I just don't think the death penalty is necessary for drug dealers. Punish them? Definitely.

There's also the "minor" part about handing death penalty to dealers; exactly what stops them from using any and all means to avoid being caught, if getting caught is guaranteed death? Are the collateral civilian and police lives worth nothing on the balance, as long as people get to throw dealers death penalty?

[Delana]

Where are you seeing that I'm not saying that's the problem. I agree with just about everything you've said here. I just don't think the death penalty is necessary for drug dealers. Punish them? Definitely.

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You realize that marajuana distribution in the United States is completely uncertain right now, right? Depending on what state you're in, there is no certainty as to what, if any, crime you're committing.

Combine that with the debacle of cocaine vs crack and it's possible we need to rethink the entire issue.

Agree on Marajuana. The...questionable legality of anything is completely ridiculous.

My argument that death is justified is that it destroys many lives, as long as what constitutes capital trafficking is crystal clear.

[cubby]

Agree on Marajuana. The...questionable legality of anything is completely ridiculous.

My argument that death is justified is that it destroys many lives, as long as what constitutes capital trafficking is crystal clear.

I could see going a lot higher on the top end people - the real capital traffickers. I just wish, and this is separate from our conversation, the racial disparity between various drugs would go away.

I mean - Opiods get Congressional/Executive Committees to "solve the problem" and Crack/Meth gets prison time - for even the most basic offenses.

[Lochton]

Might sound harsh but, I don't really mind. The worst part of this is the death penalty bit but the good news is getting rid of drug dealers..

[Aggrophobic]

Might sound harsh but, I don't really mind. The worst part of this is the death penalty bit but the good news is getting rid of drug dealers..

Yeah, and why not do the same with people that get speeding tickets or just sick people? I mean, it might be harsh but with this we'd be without sick people and the traffic would be much safer... right?

[therealbowser]

I can't believe people are defending drug dealers. Humanity is really getting dumber and dumber

People aren't defending drug dealers, people are defending humanity in the sense that just because someone does something it does not mean they deserve execution. I actually believe in the death penalty in extreme cases... but saying "lol they broke the law, they need to die" is exactly the kind of shit you'd see in a third world country.

Not sure how this is difficult to understand. Punish drug dealers, and punish them harshly, but save the death penalty for mass murderers and the like.

And this doesn't even cover what 'drug dealer' means. There's a specific amount of drug you can hold before you are considered carrying with the intent to sell, regardless of your intent. Should we just start executing anyone who does drugs now, too? I mean I guess they were kind of killing themselves by doing them anyways, right? Do you see where I am going with this, or do you even really care? lol.

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Yeah, and why not do the same with people that get speeding tickets or just sick people? I mean, it might be harsh but with this we'd be without sick people and the traffic would be much safer... right?

This guy gets it.

[Dystemper]

this is all donny being desperate to draw attention away from his russia scandal and his scandal with porn stars. really folks it is donny being desperate to change the subject

What Russia scandal? So far the only thing its shown is the Dems were colluding with Russia. And A porn star? Thats really a far stretch and no one really gives two shits about other then CNN and fanatical Trump haters. 4% unemployment, a booming Economy , that's what people care about. Death penalty for Drug dealers? I have no issue with that. Should be Mandatory Death penalty for Being in a Gang, Murder, Rape, Pedophilia and terrorism.

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People aren't defending drug dealers, people are defending humanity in the sense that just because someone does something it does not mean they deserve execution. I actually believe in the death penalty in extreme cases... but saying "lol they broke the law, they need to die" is exactly the kind of shit you'd see in a third world country.

Not sure how this is difficult to understand. Punish drug dealers, and punish them harshly, but save the death penalty for mass murderers and the like.

And this doesn't even cover what 'drug dealer' means. There's a specific amount of drug you can hold before you are considered carrying with the intent to sell, regardless of your intent. Should we just start executing anyone who does drugs now, too? I mean I guess they were kind of killing themselves by doing them anyways, right? Do you see where I am going with this, or do you even really care? lol.

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This guy gets it.

Singapore is a 3rd world country?

[Lochton]

Yeah, and why not do the same with people that get speeding tickets or just sick people? I mean, it might be harsh but with this we'd be without sick people and the traffic would be much safer... right?

Not really in the same category, though. I know where you are pointing at.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

I mean, you aren't exactly wrong, but to suggest to just ignore the leader of the 'free world' as if his words hold no weight until they are vetted by his team is to accept his etiquette as anything other than downright shameful and unacceptable for what is supposed to be one of the most prestige positions in the world. Words matter.

Well you saying words matter implies I said they don't. I said they don't matter to me. That is who the *I* is in my post. If you want to dwell on the words of a fool that will change it all up in a couple days be my quest. You won't be chaning my mind and I don't really care to change yours. I could just give zero fucks what he says. Eventually his staff will tell me what is really going to happen Monday or Tuesday. You want to work that post count up over him talking out of his ass like he always will than be my quest. I will laugh at it without much stress.