Trump suggests death penalty for drug dealers.

[Priestiality]

I could see going a lot higher on the top end people - the real capital traffickers. I just wish, and this is separate from our conversation, the racial disparity between various drugs would go away.

I mean - Opiods get Congressional/Executive Committees to "solve the problem" and Crack/Meth gets prison time - for even the most basic offenses.

That isn't a racial thing, it's a rich/poor thing. Cocaine and pain pills are expensive. Part of the reason people resort to heroin is because they no longer get their prescription and heroin is much cheaper when cost vs potency is taken into account. Crack and meth are cheap. A vast majority of meth users are poor whites.

[RobertoCarlos]

then you just sentence them to death, also extrajudicial killings could be instituted as a policy. make them fear the cold iron hand of justice.

What..?? They are already getting sentenced to death for the sale of drugs.

You cant be killed twice you know.

[cubby]

That isn't a racial thing, it's a rich/poor thing. Cocaine and pain pills are expensive. Part of the reason people resort to heroin is because they no longer get their prescription and heroin is much cheaper when cost vs potency is taken into account. Crack and meth are cheap. A vast majority of meth users are poor whites.

Rich/poor things usually turn out to be racial things as well. However, you have a point about Meth and their user demographic.

[MatadorMedia]

US citizens are for legalizing recreational drugs, so el presidente is way off here.

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@ OP - Let's discuss the boundaries here. If the text says "death penalty for drug dealers" then as typical protocol goes, someone selling marajuana or painkillers on the side could be up for the death penalty. So we need some written logic here. It should be something along the lines of "The death penalty for <list of highly addictive and death causing drugs here e.g. crystal meth, cocain, bath salts..>" Right?

The death penalty is certainly something that brings justice for those who've lost innocent familiy and friends to a mass murderer who's intent was to mass murder for example, so the death should be reserved for those with the intent to exploit (end in the long term) people's lives for money and to end lives without a valid alibi i.e. self-defense, secret service or collateral/ accidental in war and other risky situations.

Please don't get all radical leftist or rightist on me, I'd genuinely prefer to discuss this rationally.

[Machismo]

This isn't communist China, we have more than one news outlet. I don't trust CNN because they are left wing biased, they propagate fake news and because I don't have to. Thanks to the Internet I can get independent news from anywhere in the world. Why would I want to trust news from such an obviously biased organisation? Do you blindly trust Fox News?

Once again, you are simply showing the irony of your comments when whining about someone else's confirmation bias. Thanks for proving my point for me.

Please, feel free to point out all the fake news from CNN.

[Nathasil]

Throw it into the gigantic bucket of stupid shit Trump has said that will never happen.

I would, but it really is not that easy.

The wall. Despite only in small pieces, but that still bears all the negatives on the United States. Happening.
Tariffs that will hurt US manufactoring and create an innovation disadvatage in the mid/long term while only helping ~140k jobs short term. Happening.
Rolling back environmental protection EVERYWHERE. Happening.
Getting rid of Obamacare by defunding it and disabling the mandate. Happening.
Cutting the shit out of social programs while giving tax cuts to the rich (and temporary ones to the rest, just so his voters don't realise it before 2020). Happening.

I believe Trump will win 2020. There simply is no democratic candidate able to challenge him and there is not much time left. Most of the negative consequences of his policies will hit America after 2020. And by then, most citizens will have forgotten who is to blame fot it all...so it will be Obama.

The only thing that could stop him is the investigation, and even then - most of his followers would simply not accept him being convicted. Even if he was on tape saying "Fuck the US. This country is really a shithole!" they would find a way to twist it into how much he loves them. The thought that somebody who bragged about sexual assault is now POTUS is simply disgusting - but it just does not matter to his followers. It's absolutely crazy.

The part about it that frightens me te most is: When his policies drive the US economy & social standards down - which will happen, it is only a matter of time - he will NEVER admit fault. He will blame it ony litterally everybody else on the planet. And his followers will believe him.

[Orbitus]

Asked for proof. Gets given it. So attacks the other side as being worse. Shocker

But that isn't proof. That is saying that CNN is on the levels of Breitbart, it isn't even fucking close when in comparison. I can link the same thing from Fox News, and it would be longer, same thing with Breitbart because both pushed bullshit like the Birther conspiracy and the Seth Rich conspiracy.

[Priestiality]

Rich/poor things usually turn out to be racial things as well. However, you have a point about Meth and their user demographic.

You've got it backwards, a vast majority of "racial" issues are actually rich/poor issues. While the policies that caused the variance 60+ years ago were racially biased, poverty effects everyone afflicted by it equally. The black family feels hunger the same as the white family the same as the brown family. While there are certainly racial issues to contend with considering the global rise in ethno-nationalism, many problems in the US get painted as issues of race. This is intentional. It serves to keep even the so-called "allies" distracted from the real issue: income inequality and wage stagnation.

[Zython]

Would be a lot of dead former cia agents

And pharmaceutical CEOs.

[Post]

I would, but it really is not that easy.

Campaign promises are different than random stupid comments, which he has a lot of. But you can feel free to be scared about it and by all means oppose it as much as you can.

[Zython]

That really wasn't much of a challenge:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNN_controversies

I don't want to derail this thread into a CNN bashing exercise, but posters need to be aware when linking news from that organisation that they are totally discredited and you need to link stories from more reputable news outlets.

I'm going through the list, but everything so far seems to be falsehoods in favor of U.S. interests (see the Venezuela or Gulf War one), or facts that make the right uncomfortable (see the Margaret Thatcher one).

So...are they "fake news" because they promote imperialism, or are they "fake news" because they occasionally point out certain people on the right are monsters?

[Tholl]

This should have been re-worded as "Death penalty for any drug dealer that is not taxed".

Because we all know that Big Pharma execs, Alcohol and Tobacco CEO's, and Opiate pushing doctors would not be effected by this. Just us 'common' folk.

[Torto]

I'm going through the list, but everything so far seems to be falsehoods in favor of U.S. interests (see the Venezuela or Gulf War one), or facts that make the right uncomfortable (see the Margaret Thatcher one).

So...are they "fake news" because they promote imperialism, or are they "fake news" because they occasionally point out certain people on the right are monsters?

They are fake because they falsify, doctor or omit information. They are a mouthpiece of the DNC, but only establishment approved Democrats (don't forget they tried to slander Bernie Sanders). Their bias is fine so long as people don't take their news 'reporting' as anything other than partisan or outright fake,

[Zython]

They are fake because they falsify, doctor or omit information. They are a mouthpiece of the DNC, but only establishment approved Democrats (don't forget they tried to slander Bernie Sanders). Their bias is fine so long as people don't take their news 'reporting' as anything other than partisan or outright fake,

Well, from your link, all their false information is in service of right-wing interests. So...are you arguing that they should be giving more positive coverage to socialists?

[Torto]

Well, from your link, all their false information is in service of right-wing interests. So...are you arguing that they should be giving more positive coverage to socialists?

I don't want them to be positive or negative to anyone, I just want them to report facts without bias. But that seems to be too much to ask.

[Caolela]

The number of drug dealer sympathizers and apologists in this thread, is probably bigger issue than the things Trump says

I get why people may sympathize with drug users or addicts. Ok, those people have problems and need help

But drug dealers? Death penalty is too soft punishment

Ok then...let's kill the retailers of booze, and the owners & execs of the companies that produce alcohol.

Booze causes a hell of a lot more problems than any illegal drug does.

[RobertoCarlos]

Of course mmo champ cant come up with a good answer as to why this wouldn't promote cop killing. Mmo champ users hate the police and dont care

[Caolela]

Let's also kill the CIA spooks and other gov't humps involved in the illegal drug trade/trafficing such as in A'stan and S. America.

It'll never happen that drug dealers get a death penalty because the gov't would lose its retailing network.

Trump (and his followers) is a fucking moron.

[RobertoCarlos]

Okay? How does that change the fact that it's a quote?

You can look up the actual statistics about how they compare to other news sources. You're the one being delusional. I mean fucking shit dude you're sitting here literally calling a quote fake news and you're talking about others being delusional?

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It wasn't CNN at all. It was a particular person who was in a temporary position at CNN and CNN themselves asked for her resignation. If anything that helps their credibility but fools like you and Torto completely ignore relevant details.

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She's the one that actually supplied the questions. That doesn't make her a scapegoat. That's the opposite of what a scapegoat is.

And you know she was working alone how exactly? Its not normal behavior to leak questions so forgive me if I dont roll over and just accept they fixed the problem by kicking out one bad egg

You might have a point if it was CNN that outed her but it wasnt, they were caught red handed leaving them no choice but to do damage control