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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    @Venant and his Trumpkin brothers though are about to get a big wad of buyers remorse. Pompeo is a much bigger hawk, especially when it comes to Iran. Get ready for a post-Iran deal intervention of sorts, if Pompeo gets his way.
    Yeah, Pompeo, Senator Cotton, and the rest of the hawks are making it pretty clear that we're about to attack Iran.
    Trump will ride along because Cadet Bone Spurs wants to be seen as a macho military tough guy.
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    Not a big fan of Pelosi, but, at times....
    Pelosi says Tillerson firing is because of Trump's 'worship of Putin'

    Kind of wish she had worked "cock holster" in there some place.

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    Tillerson just confirmed at the press conference that Trump called him from Air Force One to let him know he was fired hours after the tweet. So Goldstein was correct, the official white house statement was a lie, and of course Goldstein was fired for calling them out on their BS.

    Our US government everyone! Support our lies or get out!

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...aqF?li=BBnb7Kz

    The first 40 seconds of this video are golden.

    "I've gotten to know a lot of people very well over the last year."
    Well no shit. They've either quit or been fired.

    "We're getting really close to the cabinet, and other things that I want."
    Fucking gold there. XD

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Therec View Post
    Tillerson just confirmed at the press conference that Trump called him from Air Force One to let him know he was fired hours after the tweet. So Goldstein was correct, the official white house statement was a lie, and of course Goldstein was fired for calling them out on their BS.

    Our US government everyone! Support our lies or get out!
    Next time trump should just go all out when it comes to being a dick while firing someone. Tweet a picture of a going away party for them that they didn't know about.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    Sure. But I never said it has not been. That does not change the fact that torture is a violation of human rights that we are supposed to uphold as a nation... not only when it suits our needs, like the examples you used.
    The unfortunate thing, is that these principles are always discarded when it comes to real on the ground situations. WW2 has long been considered as the 'last good war' by many, and that war was replete with examples of heinous human rights violations on the side of the 'good guys'. And these violations were not limited to the well known big ones, like killing hundreds of thousands of civilians by targeting population centers for fire bombing. These violations also include many examples of torture, mass executions of prisoners of war, unrestricted submarine warfare in the pacific (sinking ships and then surfacing and machine gunning any survivors, often times non-combatant merchant shipping crews).

    Why is it that these supposed ideals only matter up until the point where its convenient to violate them? I think this is just a holdover from the cold war, where propaganda like this was used to portray one side as the absolute 'good guys'.
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    Honestly believe Tillerson when he says he didn't know ahead of time. Besides the fact that he contradicted the white house about Russia, his firing served as a good distraction from both the PA special elections today and the news from yesterday about Mueller wrapping up the part of his investigation looking into whether Trump obstructed justice or not.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...aqF?li=BBnb7Kz

    The first 40 seconds of this video are golden.



    Well no shit. They've either quit or been fired.



    Fucking gold there. XD


    LOL WHAT THE FUCK.

    First he chooses the cabinet he did not want? then who chose it for him???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therec View Post
    Tillerson just confirmed at the press conference that Trump called him from Air Force One to let him know he was fired hours after the tweet. So Goldstein was correct, the official white house statement was a lie, and of course Goldstein was fired for calling them out on their BS.

    Our US government everyone! Support our lies or get out!
    Slightly off topic, but this comes to mind after reading your comment:
    San Francisco’s ICE spokesman quits, disputes agency’s claim that 800 eluded arrest
    "Support our misrepresentation of data or else!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrerBear View Post
    Yeah, Pompeo, Senator Cotton, and the rest of the hawks are making it pretty clear that we're about to attack Iran.
    Trump will ride along because Cadet Bone Spurs wants to be seen as a macho military tough guy.
    And his sheep will lap it up even though they've been concern trolling for months that they want to be non interventionist

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    Imagine how many countries are reluctant to talk to the US diplomats. You have no idea if they will still be there by this time next year.

    You'll have a great divestment from foreign nations from here in out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazrark View Post
    Imagine how many countries are reluctant to talk to the US diplomats. You have no idea if they will still be there by this time next year.

    You'll have a great divestment from foreign nations from here in out.
    Easy solution, just don't fill the diplomatic posts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dug View Post
    And his sheep will lap it up even though they've been concern trolling for months that they want to be non interventionist
    Trump:"You boys like those Israeli and CIA secrets?"
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    Trump:"Hold my beer"



  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Good riddance. He was Secretary of State in name only at this point, and agreed to be among the worst in American history. Donald Trump hires only the best people.

    It will take many years to recover from what his 14 months of terrible management at the state department accomplished, which saw the foreign service basically mass resign rather than work under him and Trump.
    @Venant and his Trumpkin brothers though are about to get a big wad of buyers remorse. Pompeo is a much bigger hawk, especially when it comes to Iran. Get ready for a post-Iran deal intervention of sorts, if Pompeo gets his way.

    The best part of this is that the new Director of the CIA is going to be a 30 year vet, and will do well to preserve the agency from Trump's Russia-hugging illegitimacy and malfeasance. It's a shame that going from the hapless Tillerson to the compromised Pompeo, means the State Department, the one organ of the US government that is most focused on restraint, will take years to get back on its feet.

    In other words, all hail our new de-facto Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis.
    It is cute that you think they are capable of remorse of any kind. They will do what they always do and proclaim they have always been pro Iron intervention and that Obama just didn't have the balls to do what needed to be done. They are literally doing that right now with the North Korea meeting.

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by Nazrark View Post
    Imagine how many countries are reluctant to talk to the US diplomats. You have no idea if they will still be there by this time next year.

    You'll have a great divestment from foreign nations from here in out.
    Can't say I blame them. Our government isn't trust worthy right now and it's going to take a long time to fix the damage caused.

  16. #136
    Apparently pointing the finger at Russia is unacceptable in the Trump administration.

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    One more for Mueller to approach.

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    So... how many more until we can say he has replaced the whole cabinet?
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  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    LOL WHAT THE FUCK.

    First he chooses the cabinet he did not want? then who chose it for him???
    Putin, obviously.

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  20. #140
    How can we possibly have all the best people unless we get a key figure in the Bush era torture program onboard, right?

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