Etsy told to remove 'vile' Karen Matthews cards

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They could just not buy or search for the cards. I mean, /solved

I agree, now if they were in physical stores I could agree with the ban but they're not

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Evidently. Why would a child who remains oblivious to wider societal issues even understand the context of that card, let alone offer one? I mean, you're 16 or 18 with a great sense of humor, sure.

Yeah they're obviously aimed for adults giving to adults

[Phlegethon]

I don't get the joke.

Seems more offensive than funny to me personally.

Given that you need to go out of your way to find these and be offended by them (as opposed to them being in the greeting card aisle in the grocery store) I give zero fucks.

And even if they were in the card aisle... Zero fucks, just move on.

[Dsc]

edit wrong thread

[Crissi]

I mean I think its kinda tasteless, but that just means I wont buy it. Not that I think "TAKE IT DOWN ITS OFFENSIVE OMG RABBLE RABBLE"

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20 years ago I contemplated emigrating to Britain. I have always wanted to visit Europe, from former com bloc, to Finland, to family in northern Italy and the south of France, to Portugal.

Nowdays from what I've read, heard, and seen. ( not just the MSM) buit from people who live there.

I'm glad I never made that move, and given the rush to self destruction most EU countrys are on, there are 2 places I ever see myself visiting in that neck of the planet.

Poland and Russia.
My how the world is upsidedown.

I don't quite understand the relevance of this post...

You don't want to live in the UK fair enough but I don't see the connection between that and three comedy greetings cards

[Antiganon]

And even if they were in the card aisle... Zero fucks, just move on.

It's not about them being in the card aisle and a customer seeing it and saying "Oh no, I saw a thing, I am so offended now!"

It's about greeting card aisles being usually managed by outside contractors (at least, in all the stores where I worked), and store management having no say about what cards are there, but still receiving all the customer complaints about the product.

I was legit yelled at by a customer over a wedding card with two men in tuxedos on the front. My store management would have been fined by the greeting card contractor if the card wasn't visible when one of their reps came in to restock and rotate.

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It's not about them being in the card aisle and a customer seeing it and saying "Oh no, I saw a thing, I am so offended now!"

It's about greeting card aisles being usually managed by outside contractors (at least, in all the stores where I worked), and store management having no say about what cards are there, but still receiving all the customer complaints about the product.

I was legit yelled at by a customer over a wedding card with two men in tuxedos on the front. My store management would have been fined by the greeting card contractor if the card wasn't visible when one of their reps came in to restock and rotate.

Wasn't you tempted to say something sarcastic against her/him

[Antiganon]

Wasn't you tempted to say something sarcastic against her/him

I very much wanted to. This was a frequent flyer and consistent asshole, but he had money, and money talks. He told one of my employees (the only Muslim woman working in my store, and yes she wore a hijab) that "You towelheads are scum, go back to the sand you came from." On a busy weekend day when our store manager (who weighed about 300 lbs) was helping bag on the front end, he yelled at the cashier from the back of the checkout line to "Make that fat bitch go faster, I have places to be."

He eventually made a possibly-credible-threat to our Muslim employee, to the point where we called the cops, had him escorted off the premises, and had him banned from ever entering the store.

My staff openly cheered when he was walked out.

[Mister Cheese]

So NSPCC has taken up to defending child abusers? Get over it. Sell the cards. They are making fun of douche canoes. What's not funny about that?

[Phlegethon]

It's not about them being in the card aisle and a customer seeing it and saying "Oh no, I saw a thing, I am so offended now!"

It's about greeting card aisles being usually managed by outside contractors (at least, in all the stores where I worked), and store management having no say about what cards are there, but still receiving all the customer complaints about the product.

I was legit yelled at by a customer over a wedding card with two men in tuxedos on the front. My store management would have been fined by the greeting card contractor if the card wasn't visible when one of their reps came in to restock and rotate.

That doesn't even matter. The same goes for that client: Don't buy what you don't like and gtfo.
If they start yelling over it laugh at them, in their face and move on.

[Antiganon]

That doesn't even matter. The same goes for that client: Don't buy what you don't like and gtfo.
If they start yelling over it laugh at them, in their face and move on.

You don't seem to understand.

Bed Bath & Beyond sold 8 feet of retail space to the greeting card reseller. The condition was that the greeting card reseller had full control over the product placement within those 8 feet, full responsibility for stocking those sections, and there was a profit sharing arrangement between Bed Bath & Beyond and the card reseller. If Bed Bath & Beyond failed to allocate the appropriate space, or removed product from display without the consent of the reseller, the reseller was entitled by contract to fine BB&B. If the reseller failed to keep the stock appropriately filled and rotated such that BB&B customers could purchase the desired cards, BB&B was entitled by contract to fine the reseller.

The reseller put product in a BB&B store that some BB&B customers (really just the one in particular) found offensive. BB&B is bound by contract to do nothing regarding the product display. Customers then complain and cause issues for BB&B staff, reducing sales of other products, because people don't want to wait in line to buy towels when some conservative asshat is going on a tirade about the gays at the front end of the store.

BB&B can get into contract negotiations with the reseller about this (if desired), but none of that addresses the immediate issue of "irate customer causing a scene".

[Queen of Hamsters]

Haha, those are awesome!

Some people simply don't get dark humour.

[Izalla]

I would buy these. I love this kinda shit.

[Nurasu]

I don't understand how it isn't thoughtless to the victims to monetize their horrible experiences, especially through comedy, nor do I see how the NSPCC is out of line to request them taken down for that reason. Etsy isn't obligated to, which is how it should be, but don't pretend you don't see their point.

[tehealadin]

I got a laugh out them.

[Phlegethon]

You don't seem to understand.

Bed Bath & Beyond sold 8 feet of retail space to the greeting card reseller. The condition was that the greeting card reseller had full control over the product placement within those 8 feet, full responsibility for stocking those sections, and there was a profit sharing arrangement between Bed Bath & Beyond and the card reseller. If Bed Bath & Beyond failed to allocate the appropriate space, or removed product from display without the consent of the reseller, the reseller was entitled by contract to fine BB&B. If the reseller failed to keep the stock appropriately filled and rotated such that BB&B customers could purchase the desired cards, BB&B was entitled by contract to fine the reseller.

The reseller put product in a BB&B store that some BB&B customers (really just the one in particular) found offensive. BB&B is bound by contract to do nothing regarding the product display. Customers then complain and cause issues for BB&B staff, reducing sales of other products, because people don't want to wait in line to buy towels when some conservative asshat is going on a tirade about the gays at the front end of the store.

BB&B can get into contract negotiations with the reseller about this (if desired), but none of that addresses the immediate issue of "irate customer causing a scene".

I do understand, the issue remains with the BB&B client, not with anyone else. If that client doesn't like it, get the fuck out. Easy enough. Noone needs to renegotiate that contract, that CLIENT should move on or get lost. Nobody should care about it's opinion, because it is invalid.

[Trassk]

Its dark humor, people like dark humor.

[Ryme]

Funny or Offensive?

Terms are not mutually exclusive.

Personally, I think they're offensive and not very funny. No objection to them being sold nor to Etsy asking them to be removed. I'm so deep into the fence here.

[AeneasBK]

Jimmy Saville was a public figure so w/e really but bit harsh on Shannon.

Madelaine Mcgann went missing and spurred some multi-million pound investigation and charity for her family. Karen Matthews basically tried to do the same thing (without actually murdering her own kid *cough* Mcganns *cough*) and got busted for it but she's hardly the most sinful person out there. Plus basically the whole family was in cahoots about it. I dunno, I always got the impression Matthews was already a victim of her own "outofthisworld" tragic stupidity, she doesn't need any more people sticking the boot in but w/e

[Noomz]

Funny or Offensive?



Pictures in the article - Personally I find them amusing and considering you have to search them out online I don't see anything wrong

Not particularly funny or sensitive, but I don't really think it's something to fight over. Some people deal with tragedy through humor, even if it can be rather tasteless.