Shaman Tanks?

[Tumble]

I've always wanted shaman tanks. It's my favorite spec to play in game, but I'm drawn to the shaman class so I've had two mains since TBC. We can dream.

[Kralljin]

Shamans can barely get 1 defensive CD and people want them to be tanks, lol.

Tell me how many defensive CD's Fury / Arms Warrior have? Or Balance / Feral Druids?

[Deleted]

There is no logical argument or reason why Shaman cannot have a 4th spec.

It's just a question of whether or not Blizzard feel it's worth the development time.

[Deleted]

Every damn expansion this topic comes up, no we're not getting Shaman tanks. Ever. There are plenty of tank classes in the game and Blizzard already struggles tremendously with balancing them.

[Xorzor]

It would be nice, but also consider that tanking is a tough job, in the sense that you will cop flak from other players at times. I speak from experience. Telling people to absorb Armageddon (KJ) is one such example of hair-pulling irritation.

One-handed weapon and a Shield combined with Mail armour does have potential. Tanky spells already exist, like Earth Shield. It could happen, MAYBE.

[Sorrior]

It would be nice, but also consider that tanking is a tough job, in the sense that you will cop flak from other players at times. I speak from experience. Telling people to absorb Armageddon (KJ) is one such example of hair-pulling irritation.

One-handed weapon and a Shield combined with Mail armour does have potential. Tanky spells already exist, like Earth Shield. It could happen, MAYBE.

Some of the stuff is honestly holdovers from our days as OT in vanilla(where if REALLY skilled ir low level you could full on mt depending on content)

Stuff like Rockbiter weapon even became aggro generating when active. We HAVE the toolkit if you pull out old skills just need to let us use it.

I mean hell my first taste of tsnking came from an ICC moment of badassery where EVERYONE died on the valkyr except me and i popped on a shield popped Earth Elemental Totem started kiting/healing as i went from enh dps to enh pseudo tank. I got the boss down abd killed her for the group. Taught me i actually enjoy tanking(bitchy players aside)

So yeah should be easy enough..and seriously we always hear about the four elements earth, wind, air and fire why can we not represent earth.

[Razaron]

May I also add that because the way attack power is generated now, is there any reason why blizzard shouldn't give Enhancement the option of using 2h again?

They could even do it in talent form with some sort of passive.

[gobio]

Tell me how many defensive CD's Fury / Arms Warrior have? Or Balance / Feral Druids?

What is this, turning into a bear is not even a CD for druid.

[shammypie]

What is this, turning into a bear is not even a CD for druid.

No but it doesn't stop people from beating a dead horse

[Lazuli]

I think it would be cool to have Enhancement as tanks... Leave Elemental and Restro as is and have a Healer/RangedDPS/tank combo would be nice

Yeah because melee survival worked out so well.

Shamans can barely get 1 defensive CD and people want them to be tanks, lol.

Blizzard is extremely averse to giving shamans defensives. It's like a memo or something. Shamans are just not allowed to be tanky whatsoever.

My thoughts exactly. Lol we can't even use our wall in a stun ffs.

[pseudodraco]

Thought it could be cool if shamans could be tanks. Could harness the power of the earth to protect the shaman. Like a "Earthen Form" a persistent form where we call the earthen elements to cover the body in stone. Somewhat like the bear form for druids. Keep the maelstrom aspect where rockbiter or boulderfist is the generator for maelstrom and aggro. Spend it on stacks of more "stone armor" like how warriors use rage for ignore pain. The list could go on and on. What are your thoughts?

one thing i saw that would be cool would be borrow the rock armor from like dragon age for shammy tanking

[Myta]

A 4th Shaman spec that's earth-focused makes sense, because outside of the odd Elemental spell, there's no Shaman spec that's earth focused. Ele is fire focused, Resto water, and Enh wind. So having a spec that majorly uses the earth would be quite interesting. Cool niches that would fit well with a spec like that could be creating barriers out of the ground that blocks movement (Like Ring of Peace) temporarily, while also providing LOS like a pillar. As well as having a Spell Reflection cooldown in a big Grounding totem. Earth Ascendant being their big Shield Wall cooldown.

[Zaganite]

I really wish this would happen with an earthen elemental ascendance form! Honestly if they can make DH and monk viable tanks with leather then a mail tank is possible but considering how Shamans arent getting much love recently I doubt it would ever happen.

[Deleted]

What goes thru peoples mind when they use "non-tank Shaman specs have bad defensives" as argument against Tank Shaman Specialization?

[orderschvank]

shaman could be the first RANGE TANK in WoW

how?

Make our earth elemental:

permanent
scale with stats
share health pool with shaman
syphons all threat from shaman
has unique abilities of itself
provides a buff to shaman and itself that reduces all aoe dmg taken by 50% (because they share health)

and w/e

it would be amazing, WoW finally gets a mail tank, and its range

[RangerDaz]

I think it would made sense adding a forth spec, especially since Shaman have used shields since vanilla.
I think Blizzard's original idea was to make viable prot pallies and shaman tanks in the future, but then they changed their minds and added blood elf paladins and draenei shaman in the burning crusade, and decided to make paladin and shaman classes unique from each other.


As there are 4 elements, i would make four specs, being one of the elements the strongest for each spec:

Earth: Tank Spec (Earth was always the spec that represented defense / tanking, so this is the obvious element for the tanking spec)
Fire: Elemental (although all elements are obviously used in elemental spec, fire is the most destructive force and elemental dps is really what the spec is about)
Wind: Enhancement (swift attacks and agility)
Water: Restoration (healing waters)

[Deleted]

shaman could be the first RANGE TANK in WoW

how?

Make our earth elemental:

permanent
scale with stats
share health pool with shaman
syphons all threat from shaman
has unique abilities of itself
provides a buff to shaman and itself that reduces all aoe dmg taken by 50% (because they share health)

and w/e

it would be amazing, WoW finally gets a mail tank, and its range

I don't see ranged tanking working, no matter the class imo How would you deal with movement and such? targetted pet movement sucks.

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I think it would made sense adding a forth spec, especially since Shaman have used shields since vanilla.
I think Blizzard's original idea was to make viable prot pallies and shaman tanks in the future, but then they changed their minds and added blood elf paladins and draenei shaman in the burning crusade, and decided to make paladin and shaman classes unique from each other.


As there are 4 elements, i would make four specs, being one of the elements the strongest for each spec:

Earth: Tank Spec (Earth was always the spec that represented defense / tanking, so this is the obvious element for the tanking spec)
Fire: Elemental (although all elements are obviously used in elemental spec, fire is the most destructive force and elemental dps is really what the spec is about)
Wind: Enhancement (swift attacks and agility)
Water: Restoration (healing waters)

Although I'm not a fan of elements being divided by spec that seems like a burned bridge by now. So in that case we really need a class that utelizes earth more.

[Micronetic]

shaman could be the first RANGE TANK in WoW

how?

Make our earth elemental:

permanent
scale with stats
share health pool with shaman
syphons all threat from shaman
has unique abilities of itself
provides a buff to shaman and itself that reduces all aoe dmg taken by 50% (because they share health)

and w/e

it would be amazing, WoW finally gets a mail tank, and its range

Sounds like a Warlock, GG

[Barnabas]

You couldn't after the pruning. They'd have to at least bring stoneskin totem back. Though it probably wouldn't come back as a totem because players seem to prefer the 5-6 button mini game for each class.

[Easo]

What goes thru peoples mind when they use "non-tank Shaman specs have bad defensives" as argument against Tank Shaman Specialization?

Same people who thinks that your gameplay capabilities equals lore and vice versa.