Master Loot being purged?

[Rotted]

Tbh we switched from PL to ML with an adapted EPGP system,

overall we had more loot distributed to people,
less time between bosses of people "I could use that, but its only a bit better" "oh I could do with that for x mog" etc.
unused loot actually got de'd for the bank opposed to people selling to a vendor,
pre pot up and potting % went to 100% for every member bar one, same with food.
People actually turned up before raid invites we were in and waiting to pull 15 minutes early.

How we set up the system was fair and prevented hoarding and actually worked. After hearing a majority of negative feedback we switched back to PL.

Boat ton of useless loot each week people vendor instead of donating (its their choice of course, but we provide every enchant completely free to everyone including non raiders)
More time talking about trading loot
Prepots and food down
People straight back to turning up late.

Hoping one day to go back to it, so hoping it stays put

[anveena]

I don't like the idea of taking away options from players. Personal loot is aids because you can't even trade gear if the item level is too high.

[Veiled Shadow]

I don't like the idea of taking away options from players. Personal loot is aids because you can't even trade gear if the item level is too high.

Well, legendaries do count, so you can pretty much trade any upgrade right now in Legion.

Regarding the OP it's not even clear that they're actually removing it. . .

[Seramore]

Regarding the OP it's not even clear that they're actually removing it. . .

boy, if this forum made threads solely based off of things that were 100% clear, there would only be a few hundred threads out of the 10+ years this forum has been around

[This Sesshomaru]

lmao all the salty people raging about ML being removed when the statement CLEARLY implies that TIER will not be there come BfA.. They even announced WEEKS ago that there wouldn't be anymore raid tiers..

Honestly people should learn to pay attention..

And some reading comprehension as well..

[Seramore]

lmao all the salty people raging about ML being removed when the statement CLEARLY implies that TIER will not be there come BfA.. They even announced WEEKS ago that there wouldn't be anymore raid tiers..

Honestly people should learn to pay attention..

And some reading comprehension as well..

talks about about reading comprehension and complains about people not paying attention
is convinced there are no more "raid tiers" in BfA
literally ignores the 30 second video that makes this no-ML scenario more likely to be an actual reality


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pro tip: there's more than one source in the main post. check out the second one instead of basing your responses solely on the wording of the first two sentence source, and then re-read the thread title and take note of the punctuation being used

[Zyky]

No, they're saying most people use master loot because of tier tokens, which won't be present in BFA.

If you watch the whole thing he actually says they want to move forward with personal loot because it makes it more difficult on guilds that split clear.

[Toybox]

Raid leader: Okay, tanks & healers swap to DPS loot specs for this boss because the trinket is amazing.
Tank: But mah shield...
Raid leader: Also, everyone trade me all loot after the boss dies so I can RCLootCouncil it.
Raid: Zzzzzz.

Yeah this isn't going to be shit at all.

[Splatter]

My guild has been using personal loot all of legion and we raid mythic. We have used master loot three times all expac to target tier specifically for certain people. Any double ups for personal loot go to a loot council and we hand it out based on where it will be the best for the guild. We have 0 loot drama and 0 downtime dishing out loot. With no tier in BfA we won't be using master loot at all. Getting 6-12 pieces of loot per boss on personal is too good to give up.

[DesoPL]

Bullshit all i have to say.

[Marani]

I approve. I'm happy when I get loot but overall I hate all the drama around it.

I'm not looking forward to all the trading that will happen after kills, but really, there's been so many times where I just wished we had PL instead of ML because people were being super pedantic about the tiniest things, when they thought something was handed out unfairly (sometimes it didn't even involve themselves...) and I dunno I just always thought it was a pain, especially on bosses we've been having on farm for weeks. BIG SIGH

[GreenJesus]

So no more gearing the DPS first? As a healer I understood that the guild was priority and I was willing to wait a few weeks to get gear because it meant killing bosses would be easier. Why are they removing options for guilds to use to distribute loot?

[Lilija]

That is actually not true at all. If that was the case, not a single mythic raid group would even bother with master loot.

My guild for most part is running with PL and only switched few times for tiers. The problem was when those tier bosses also dropped some trinket or relic that everyone and their mother wants making ML less effective when it came to non tier items. Unnecessary tensions are unnecessary. ML is statistically better only in very specific situations and only for tiers. And since they are going away...

Oh... and split runs. But if aren't doing split runs you might as well not bother with ML for most of the time.

Here's a thought. If Blizzard ever wanted to get rid of split runs - drop ML.

[Divinexve]

They're going to purge master loot harder than Arthas purged Stratholme

[Deleted]

The dumbing down of gear yet again. Lovely.

[Deleted]

Master Loot should remain for guild groups (aka. your choice!)

Personal Loot being forced on PuG activities is fine, and removes a lot of the ninja/drama.

[Arnoux]

Very good. As a casual player, I see no reason to play with any group where there is master loot. If people want to distribute loot, you can still do it with personal loot. It is tradeable.

[Toybox]

Very good. As a casual player, I see no reason to play with any group where there is master loot. If people want to distribute loot, you can still do it with personal loot. It is tradeable.

The whole process is just made more tedious for full guild groups. Swapping loot specs before every boss to get the big important drops, having to trade everything to the GM/RL, and then finally doing the loot council as usual...

I understand for casual players like yourself that this is a bit of non-issue, but for the majority of guilds doing mythic progression, this is nothing other than a pain in the arse.

[The One Percent]

Sucks if you're unlucky and relied on systems that rewarded you loot based on your participation and performance.

[Video Games]

And those if us who have gone multiple runs with not a single drop on pl will sure love this, lol.