Fascists Threaten to Burn Down Berkeley Bookstore

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

look, if you don't want your bookstore to burn down stop packing it full of flammable books.

duh.

[downnola]

Then why do they attack regular conservatives and liberals?

Because the word fascist is a vague term that doesn't have a clear definition everyone can agree on. It's an easy way to claim the moral high ground without actually standing against something specific. The "everyone I disagree with is a fascist" meme exists for a reason.

[JohnBrown1917]

Then why do they attack regular conservatives and liberals?

Ill repeat it.

Fascism does not have a monopoly on violence, although what you said is pretty much bullshit, but whatever.

[Player Twelve]

Ill repeat it.

Fascism does not have a monopoly on violence, although what you said is pretty much bullshit, but whatever.

http://www.liberalapartiet.se/2012/0...olitiskt-vald/

That's not "pretty much bullshit". They attack liberals because they're "a threat to the worker class".

[downnola]

As for me, I don't like either party. I am an independent, because I doubt either party would accept me if they actually knew my views. I see myself as a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. I also don't have a problem with the 2nd amendment. However, organized religion can kiss my sweet patootie. See where we're going here? I don't follow either party's line very well, and <gasp> actually like parts of both...and very much dislike parts of both as well.

Most people are middle of the road in their views. The people that Garnier is talking about use the word "independent" only to gain a moral edge in debate and conversation. For example, I know a few people who are registered as independent, claim they're libertarian, but consistently vote for Republicans and bitch about the left exclusively. They're not "independent," they're just unwilling to admit what they are.

[JohnBrown1917]

http://www.liberalapartiet.se/2012/0...olitiskt-vald/

That's not "pretty much bullshit". They attack liberals because they're "a threat to the worker class".

Not even the point of my post, but whatever.

[Orbitus]

Commie book store owner looks exactly how I imagined.

Also nice "you voted for Trump so you are racist!" logic. Someone needs to tell blacks and hispanics voting for him that they are racist.

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I bet you think that Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democracy because it says so in their name,right?

It does not matter how you call yourself. How you act is more important and antifa are acting like blackshirts.

Sorry, but this argument is my argument when people like you claim that Nazi Germany was socialist because they had socialist in their name. Works better against that than it does against Antifa. Antifa are still less violent than they people you are defending, they haven't killed anyone.

[DrStiglit]

It doesn't matter which end of the spectrum you're on, this isn't appropriate behavior.

[Garnier Fructis]

As for me, I don't like either party. I am an independent, because I doubt either party would accept me if they actually knew my views. I see myself as a fiscal conservative and a social liberal. I also don't have a problem with the 2nd amendment. However, organized religion can kiss my sweet patootie. See where we're going here? I don't follow either party's line very well, and <gasp> actually like parts of both...and very much dislike parts of both as well.

Then you're not the kind of person I'm talking about.

[Barnabas]

To paraphrase Sean Connery in Indiana Jones, "maybe they should try reading books instead of burning them". A history book for starters.

Revolution Books in Berkeley becomes target for right-wing groups

BERKELEY, Calif. (KGO) -- Revolution Books in Berkeley has been the target of several right-wing groups that have protested in front of the store. This weekend, things escalated when a small group threatened to burn the place down.

In cellphone video, a man and a woman are seen and heard insulting Reiko Redmonde, one of the volunteers of the bookstore. " You are so ignorant. Commie scum, you commie scum we're going to burn down your book store, you know that."

Bolshevik's are a disgrace and will never see power in the US.

[Alydael]

Almost. The other characteristic is that while they claim to be above party lines, they're arguments and ideas almost exclusively align with one party.

In other words, people who are trying to gain credibility by pretending to be impartial.

Or they could actually be independent and not support either the Pubs or Dems. Maybe they didn't drink the Kool Aid?

The Dems and Pubs aren't "everything and all things," (they are actually just a set of crooks that can smile for the camera and say the right thing sometimes) there are other points of views that exist.

In fact, in the last election- a highly contested, widely publicized and an election in which record sums of money were spent- 119 million people voted. There are 207 million people that can vote. That's 57%. So slightly over half the people that could vote, voted. The rest sat it out.

So (roughly) the Dems represent 25% of the country the Pubs 25%, the rest don't identify with either of those (I wonder why?)

Don't try to marginalize people and silence their voices just because they aren't "down with the team." Some people don't do that "group mind," "us=right, them=wrong" stuff. That's what the parties try to do. That's why they put stuff out there like "if you vote independent- you are throwing your vote away." Or "if you vote independent (basically because you don't like our crap candidate), you are actually voting for trump because you are taking votes from Hillary (hmm, where have I heard that before?)

Yeah, sounds totally legit........

They once asked one of the founding fathers (think it was Hamilton) if he was worried about political parties consolidating too much power and abusing the system (basically what we have today- a duopoly that controls our govt). He laughed and said that the interests and intellect of the American population is too great. There would have to hundreds of political parties, he said. How wrong he was........

[Garnier Fructis]

Or they could actually be independent and not support either the Pubs or Dems. Maybe they didn't drink the Kool Aid?

At some point I'm going to stop responding to these, but you guys really need to consider the possibility that I was talking about a very specific group of people and not independents in general. If someone's entire posting history is throwing out talking points from one side and bashing the other side, then it's pretty clear that they aren't actually an independent, and are just pretending.

[Barnabas]

Or they could actually be independent and not support either the Pubs or Dems. Maybe they didn't drink the Kool Aid?

The Dems and Pubs aren't "everything and all things," (they are actually just a set of crooks that can smile for the camera and say the right thing sometimes) there are other points of views that exist.

In fact, in the last election- a highly contested, widely publicized and an election in which record sums of money were spent- 119 million people voted. There are 207 million people that can vote. That's 57%. So slightly over half the people that could vote, voted. The rest sat it out.

So (roughly) the Dems represent 25% of the country the Pubs 25%, the rest don't identify with either of those (I wonder why?)

Don't try to marginalize people and silence their voices just because they aren't "down with the team." Some people don't do that "group mind," "us=right, them=wrong" stuff. That's what the parties try to do. That's why they put stuff out there like "if you vote independent- you are throwing your vote away." Or "if you vote independent (basically because you don't like our crap candidate), you are actually voting for trump because you are taking votes from Hillary (hmm, where have I heard that before?)

Yeah, sounds totally legit........

They once asked one of the founding fathers (think it was Hamilton) if he was worried about political parties consolidating too much power and abusing the system (basically what we have today- a duopoly that controls our govt). He laughed and said that the interests and intellect of the American population is too great. There would have to hundreds of political parties, he said. How wrong he was........

Much of that has to do with people actually seeing policy changes they want enacted. Half the country has doubts any major changes will occur so what is the point in voting when your voice won't ever be heard? It makes me wonder why black voters even bother. I mean look at cities that are controlled by blacks and how they still fail to get any major policy enacted. That makes people apathetic towards the entire process.

[Truefacts]

If you think anti-fascisn is fascism, you really dont know what words mean.

If you go around setting fires and claim you're not an arsonist, it doesn't prove you aren't one, it just makes you a liar.

[JohnBrown1917]

If you go around setting fires and claim you're not an arsonist, it doesn't prove you aren't one, it just makes you a liar.

No, it just means you have no idea what fascism is.

[Milchshake]

No, it just means you have no idea what fascism is.

Ya it's too late, they already burned The Origins of Totalitarianism and Eichmann in Jerusalem

But then they read The Hobbit and Atlas Shrugged, and stop reading because they learned everything.

[Zython]

Then why do they attack regular conservatives and liberals?

Turns out anti-fascists aren't too keen on Nazi sympathizers and collaborators, either.

[Kallisto]

They once asked one of the founding fathers (think it was Hamilton) if he was worried about political parties consolidating too much power and abusing the system (basically what we have today- a duopoly that controls our govt). He laughed and said that the interests and intellect of the American population is too great. There would have to hundreds of political parties, he said. How wrong he was........

And yet as a founding father he was there to basically put in place a system that forces 2 parties to be at the forefront. Seriously they knew FPTP would cause it yet tried to act like it wouldn't happen. Then it happened and who made it become a 2 party. The founders themselves. It's like they deliberately made the US a 2 party country

[Priestiality]

We prefer this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7mRG88KPbA

Or this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ4jtmHaFHA

[Player Twelve]

Turns out anti-fascists aren't too keen on Nazi sympathizers and collaborators, either.

Conservatives and liberals are nazi sympathizers and collaborators? So, basically "Everything right of me is nazism".