Chinese space station falling to earth

[Garnier Fructis]

The point is that something coming in contact with the Earth is not orbiting the Earth. I'm glad 7 people confirmed my point while I was at dinner.

Seven people did not confirm you point. What happened is that seven people tried to reason with you and you acted like a total dick.

[Glnger]

Everything on orbit falls towards Earth. To stay on orbit they need to move sideways fast enough that they miss the curvature of Earth, thus staying in orbit. The closer the object is, the faster it needs to move.

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Not the Moon though. It's moving a tad too fast, it is getting away from us.

ummm, but I thought the earth was flat?

/sarcasm, i was also being sarcastic with the post you quoted. was going for a Magnets, how do they work angle joke

[Orange Joe]

I'm not twisting your words. You said that things that orbit the Earth are falling towards it, which is patently false. You can pretend you didn't say it, but you did. You were wrong.

It's OK though, because I'm guessing that's not what you meant, and I was correcting the falsehood you accidentally wrote.

Can we agree that this Chinese space station is not in orbit?

The point is that something coming in contact with the Earth is not orbiting the Earth. I'm glad 7 people confirmed my point while I was at dinner.

Are you saying the Chinese space station is touching the earth?

[Garnier Fructis]

For what it's worth, "decaying orbit" is clearly a thing, as evidenced by the mountain of papers written on decaying orbits:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?h...orbit%22&btnG=

[Kaleredar]

Reading this thread, I'm wondering why in the hell so many people are being so pedantic about the definition of "orbit" when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand.

[Masark]

So there's a chance this thing could land in the United States? I thought Trump's tariffs were supposed to put an end to the Chinese dumping their steel here.

Possible. Though it's about as likely that it will land back in China.

[Thoughtful Trolli]

It's not going to hit Germany, but it could hit southern Europe although it's more likely it'll land in Africa or South America and even more likely to land in the Ocean. Although it's also very likely it's not really going to hit anything, It is not aerodynamic and it will most likely be torn into thousands of pieces that'll burn up in the atmosphere.

And if it does land somewhere and injure or kill people It's most probably nothing will happen, no conflicts. However there is an international treaty on damage reparation caused by debris from space

"The compensation which the launching State shall be liable to pay for damage under this Convention shall be determined in accordance with international law and the principles of justice and equity, in order to provide such reparation in respect of the damage as will restore the person, natural or juridical, State or international organization on whose behalf the claim is presented to the condition which would have existed if the damage had not occurred."

If you get hit by stuff launched by your own government you'd better hope you're insured because that's a whole different story.

You're a moron.

The second there ISN'T fallout from this crash, is the second USA is going to "deploy three new skylabs" every month, and then three years later "they're wobbling and we don't know where or when they are going to crash nobody can predict this oooooohhh" and then we'll watch them land exactly on top of the things we fucking want to die because that's fucking cakewalk maths.

That means, without any doubts, that if this shit lands anywhere it injures people, there WILL be war, or the country that is struck not demanding compensation is making a tipping hat trade with the other country to deliberately kill its own undesirables through prolonged space missile missions.

You'd be a bigger moron if you didn't do your research to find out crashing shit in the right spot three years from now is so fucking easy, for God sakes they are shooting space vessels within meters of jupiter and mars.

[P for Pancetta]

You're a moron.

The second there ISN'T fallout from this crash, is the second USA is going to "deploy three new skylabs" every month, and then three years later "they're wobbling and we don't know where or when they are going to crash nobody can predict this oooooohhh" and then we'll watch them land exactly on top of the things we fucking want to die because that's fucking cakewalk maths.

That means, without any doubts, that if this shit lands anywhere it injures people, there WILL be war, or the country that is struck not demanding compensation is making a tipping hat trade with the other country to deliberately kill its own undesirables through prolonged space missile missions.

You'd be a bigger moron if you didn't do your research to find out crashing shit in the right spot three years from now is so fucking easy, for God sakes they are shooting space vessels within meters of jupiter and mars.

Next time before calling people names do some research? Because space debris has already hit peoples property in the past. And never has it come to war. Just like there are much worse things done by countries to other countries without it coming to war.

Secondly the reason why its not possible to know exactly where the debris is going to land is because it isn't a rocket. It's a tube flying at tremendous speeds being spun around once it reaches any kind of air resistance and eventually will break apart into hundreds of not thousands of pieces all with a different drag and can be spread out over a huge area.

Thirdly there are many smaller objects in space crashing down towards earth on a daily basis that aren't even tracked because we have no means to do so yet.

It's apparent you're very emotional about this topic going from the nonsensical drivel filled with cuss words you've posted here. However it's clear you have little understanding about space, the atmosphere, diplomacy, war and probably a whole plethora of different subject as well.

Next time you feel the need to vent your frustrations I'd suggest you take a step back, count to ten and think before you make yourself look like an idiot again.

[Orange Joe]

Possible. Though it's about as likely that it will land back in China.

China is in the blue circle not even in the path. Assuming the green area is where it may land.

[Masark]

China is in the blue circle not even in the path. Assuming the green area is where it may land.

What you've circled is part of Russia.

[Zandermill]

It's humorous that just the other day, Detnew's listed lower Michigan as a high impact probability of the Chinese space station. Good times. I'll be sitting back waiting for it to crater Oakland County, or Detroit.

[Orange Joe]

What you've circled is part of Russia.

Ops. Swore I read that as china on the map I was looking at, but you are right. I fail at geography.

[dextersmith]

When i heard of the Chinese space station hitting Earth I thought they had the equivalent of the ISS and it was going to crash into Earth. that would be troublesome, but according to the post above if its only 10m long and 3m wide, who cares. it will probably burn up in the atmosphere.

When i heard of the Chinese space station hitting Earth I thought Made in China......

[Jonnusthegreat]

Are you saying the Chinese space station is touching the earth?

It will be.

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Seven people did not confirm you point. What happened is that seven people tried to reason with you and you acted like a total dick.

If asking questions about someone else's argument is 'acting like a total dick' then you have a severely limited viewpoint on what a successful argument is.

[Garnier Fructis]

If asking questions about someone else's argument is 'acting like a total dick' then you have a severely limited viewpoint on what a successful argument is.

This sequence of replies is you being a dick:

So I am, in fact, orbiting the Earth.

So I am, in fact, orbiting the center of the Earth.

[Rennadrel]

Let's hope it lands on the White House

[Jonnusthegreat]

This sequence of replies is you being a dick:

That is a sequence of me stating facts based on the other person's argument. The statements are obviously false, making the other argument null and void.

[Hilhen7]

That is a sequence of me stating facts based on the other person's argument. The statements are obviously false, making the other argument null and void.

It's not you stating facts. It's you failing to understand what people are explaining.

[Jonnusthegreat]

It's not you stating facts. It's you failing to understand what people are explaining.

I'm glad you agree with me that they are not facts. Things on a crash course for Earth are not considered in orbit. Unless the trajectory is corrected. Which it won't be. So it's not orbiting. It's crashing.

[Hilhen7]

I'm glad you agree with me that they are not facts. Things on a crash course for Earth are not considered in orbit. Unless the trajectory is corrected. Which it won't be. So it's not orbiting. It's crashing.

The satellite is still up, so explain to me how it's not currently in orbit?