Like mentioned above, a small adjustment to PL and this system has a chance to be just as rewarding with others being able to decide for themselves if they want to hand over loot to someone else. We have no idea how an always PL system will be implemented but all I am saying it can work out fine not giving one person all the power to hand out loot. I am alrdy coming up with a plan to make this work smoothly without killing time and still have loot given to those who need it. I am hoping a small tweak to the system is all that is needed but then again I am a positive person thinking positive...the sky is not falling, trust me.
And if they do that, guilds will require you to hand over loot to a Master Looter and they'll distribute it how they want. Fail to comply and you'll be kicked. Just leave it alone and don't attempt to 'fix' something that isn't broken.
It isn't uncommon and in fact most guilds already do this, in form of BoE drops from the raids. Most guilds do require you to hand them over to either fund the guild bank and/or for them to roll off and be given to who needs it the most.
maybe current playerbase.. blizzard scared off the old playerbase with all the changes they've been making to the game.. and it still doesnt make any sense
and if u answer with "well they do it for the current playerbase so it makes sense" or with something like that i'll tell u that old playerbase was also CURRENT at some point, yet they made those changes regardless
I would never require someone to hand over loot they needed or was an upgrade. I would like to think that my guild and the amazing ppl in it will always do whats best to progress and giving them the power to decide and have others roll for the gear they can hand over. The mentality of making ppl hand over all gear to be distributed is crazy. Having said that, if cutting edge groups wanna do this and all are on board than whats the issue? turns out to be a glorified ML system anyway.
I think this is something you are going to have to get used to since you know.. ML might be going away.. no toggle there or hear that allows you to get your way. Oh and oh no not a label. Please don't do that mister... who are you again? I will share and do as I please and you won't be putting a stop to it.
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You have to understand that his guild might be one of the only places in his life he actually has influence and his power is displayed in pixel rewards. He is big.. tough.. and highly skilled because of that. Once it is gone.. he is likely right.. a lot of people will look at him and say "why the fuck are we around this dude again??"
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
Well it doesn't change much tbh as long as trading is still a thing. It just turns everyone that gets a piece into a loot master. If it's better for someone else then you just trade it. Even with the system in place now I pass on things that are better for other people in the guild. So with this I'd just have to trade the person. It doesn't matter to me. I see someone in a pug that can use the upgrade and i don't need it I trade it to them more often than not. Idc about the shard value.
Last edited by Barnabas; 2018-03-17 at 03:41 AM.
His example works at every level, because he proved it's fundamentally more beneficial to give it to the arcane mage in that example than the hunter. It doesn't matter what level of you that example is taken at, the result is always the same.
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Except under personal loot rules, if it's a 5ilvl upgrade, you cannot trade it. It may not even be an upgrade for you, and Ion himself even expect 5-10ilvl range may not be an upgrade for the player, but under personal loot rules you still cannot trade that item. How is that a good system.
I'll quit before that happens, so no, really isn't something I "need to get used to". Also nice attack in your update, I'll be reporting that one.
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Gratz to you, however many MANY guilds will and already do. Even if its 90% of guilds, that's most, even if its 75%, still many.
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.
With the changes coming, Angosia won't need to do that. It is a change I am looking forward to. Mainly due to the fact that I am usually filling different roles within the guild to compensate for DPS, Heals or Tank depending on the fight we are on but my main spec loot is always healing. With the new system if there is a DPS trinket I'm looking for, I just change my loot spec. I am only worried about how we can incentify the raiders to continue to push forward with progression rather than coming in after weeks of wipes and get lucky with PL drops.
There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't..
That's easy. You just don't invite people who are trying to do that. If its more like a new recruit getting loot, well, I find it really awkward that people would be upset that someone else on their team was fortunate. Imagine they're in your guild because you want them and its kind of ridiculous/petty to be upset that they got something they want
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I was not aware they are removing master loot, how stupid.
The same reason you are there in the first place and that is to kill bosses. At least that is my motivation. Sure loot is important but it's just a means to an end for what I'm doing. Other people getting gear isn't demotivational for me. I see it as a benefit to the group.
I went ahead and reported it too. Because I understand that when someone like you doesn't have the capacity to silence a critic you desperately seek someone that can.
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I actually do not think its official. It sounds like where they are leaning though.
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No its mostly over reaction typical of the WoW community. It might be going it might not.
Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.