Why Sethrak and Vulpera are Pointless Races and Shouldn't be playable.

[Kauko]

Its a fantasy game guys, relax...

[Pandragon]

My only problem with the Vulpera is that they are furry goblins. I was hoping for blizzard to add a proper Kitsune race, but no....furry goblins.

[Techno-Druid]

There's a reason there's no Horde equivalent to "Pornshire".

The Silvermoon Inn is the Horde equivalent of Goldshire. Primarily dominated by nelf females and troll and tauren males.

[Steampunkette]

The Silvermoon Inn is the Horde equivalent of Goldshire. Primarily dominated by nelf females and troll and tauren males.

Oh, there's definitely plenty of ERPers on the Hordeside. But there's nothing so infamous as Pornshire. Even the Silvermoon Inn doesn't get it's own "This is where people pretend to have sex" nickname.

[huth]

The upper section of your post basically says: "Forums only reflect a minority"

The bottom section says: "They are objectively only a tiny group because only a few people offer that opinion".

Choose one, forums only reflect the opinion of a minority or they don't.

Forums reflect a minority, and the people complaining about these races are a small minority of that. There's no contradiction.

[TheRainman]

"They're pointless and bad because I don't like them and my subjective perspective of what is or isn't a 'fantasy game' must be adhered to."

He isn't saying dictating commands. He's simply giving his opinion. Re-read his post, it's filled with things like "I think" and "I feel". There is nothing wrong with him not liking the idea of those races being added, and deciding to share it. You disagree? Awesome. Feel free to make a post about all the reasons you think they would make great options for being allied races.

Then some other asshole can come on here and say something myopic like, "They're worthwhile and great because I do like them and my subjective perspective of what is or isn't a 'fantasy game' must be adhered to."

It's his personal opinion. We all have them. Talking about it doesn't mean he's trying to force it down anyone's throat.

[phealin]

Vulperas have been mentioned in the Lore as far back as 2005 in the War of the Ancient: The Sundering novel, they were never mentioned by name but they were refered to as one of the Ancient Guardians quoted: "A tiny red fox with a sly yet gnomish visage"
The same goes for the Tortollan: "A reptilian warrior with a shell reminiscent of a turtle's"

[Cyero]

Exactly. Allied race system is suppose to be a system where you go find allies you already have made or have been in a faction for a long time. It shouldn't even be a system where you get new races out of developer's random thoughts and say that this is ok. Adding something New is alright but when your Adding unnecessary stupid races that no one asked for or doesn't have actually history with a faction then you know you done mess up your original idea for what the wow fans want.

If you want to have a new race than just leave it into the race spot. Allied races are suppose to be subraces and races who have been on the horde and alliance for longest time and have history with that faction. Still blows my mind that people think this system isn't a subrace feature but it is.

You don't make the rules, It's blizzards choice regardless of how much you dislike the new playable races, and races in the future.

[SNES-1990]

The people asking for Vulpera are the same crowd that was banging their fists on the table for Demon Hunters.

Then, when they become playable, they quickly get bored of their toys and look for the next thing to obsess over.

[Directionalk9]

The people asking for Vulpera are the same crowd that was banging their fists on the table for Demon Hunters.

Then, when they become playable, they quickly get bored of their toys and look for the next thing to obsess over.

I bet you're not right in the slightest.

[Steampunkette]

He isn't saying dictating commands. He's simply giving his opinion. Re-read his post, it's filled with things like "I think" and "I feel". There is nothing wrong with him not liking the idea of those races being added, and deciding to share it. You disagree? Awesome. Feel free to make a post about all the reasons you think they would make great options for being allied races.

Then some other asshole can come on here and say something myopic like, "They're worthwhile and great because I do like them and my subjective perspective of what is or isn't a 'fantasy game' must be adhered to."

It's his personal opinion. We all have them. Talking about it doesn't mean he's trying to force it down anyone's throat.

He spent 3 paragraphs insulting the races and impugning the people who might want to play them. "Force it down anyone's throat"? Nah. Just shame people for liking them.

[Mehrunes]

To me Sethrak and Vulpera are two of the most pointless races to have be playable within the World of Warcraft. You can say the same argument with Worgens, Pandarens, and Tauren. But here's the thing those 3 races were already within the Warcraft universe mainly being the Tauren and pandaren that made their first appearance in Warcraft 3 then comes the worgen which also made their appearance in classic/vanilla wow. Each of the 3 races have interesting backstories and even bit of good culture like Tauren/Native Americans, Worgens/British and Pandarens/Asian Culture. But with the likes of Sethrak and Vulpera they just feel out of no where with no backstory, less interesting culture and they feel like they don't fit the overall Warcraft universe.

All the backstory Pandaren had in W3 is that they come from Pandaria (and it tuned out Chen didn't come from Pandaria) and that they like beer. BfA isn't out of development yet. To say that Vulpera and Sethrak won't have background is inane. So is saying they won't have aspects of earth cultures, since those are what Blizzard uses for all of their races. The rest is you failing to comprehend the concept of subjectivity.

Why would anyone want to play as a furry fox boy or Snake person where you could be playing as a Celtic Dwarf or Savage big Ogre, Cruel heartless Undead Human or Elf, Viking Human, Noble High Elf, Forest Troll, Snow Tauren like Taunka just whatever type of subrace that feels Warcraft that feels like a Fantasy RPG. Not something stupid and pointless like Fox people, Fish people, Snake people, and whatever type of stupid race that doesn't feel like Warcraft. Its bad enough the Alliance already got 2 sad excuse of allied races and kind of feel like the faction pride identity is dead at this point. If Vulpera joins the horde then what's the point in the Allied race system then

Now engage your brilliant brain for another moment and consider the opposite. Because one can say "why would anyone want to play a Celtic Dwarf rather than a fox person" and it'd be exactly as valid. And beast people, particularly snake people, are fantasy staple.

Also, all the allied races Alliance got are what you want allied race system to be (i.e. more of a subraces for the current races only type of deal). I know you're big on whining about HORDE BIAS falling from the sky to kill us all, but at least try to maintain a coherent narrative.

He isn't saying dictating commands. He's simply giving his opinion. Re-read his post, it's filled with things like "I think" and "I feel". There is nothing wrong with him not liking the idea of those races being added, and deciding to share it. You disagree? Awesome. Feel free to make a post about all the reasons you think they would make great options for being allied races.

Then some other asshole can come on here and say something myopic like, "They're worthwhile and great because I do like them and my subjective perspective of what is or isn't a 'fantasy game' must be adhered to."

It's his personal opinion. We all have them. Talking about it doesn't mean he's trying to force it down anyone's throat.

It's filled with what now? The only two times the word "I" appears in the OP is when the OP expressed the feeling the allied race is not what it should be and when they hoped that Sethrak and Vulpera don't become playable. The rest of the OP is what you described in the second paragraph.

[Techno-Druid]

I really think the vulpera have an interesting culture, Gypsy-Bedouins that ride vultures, like a mix of a Fremen and a Khajiit.

[Hawkknight97]

the only pointless thing here is this thread.

Because not talking about pointless things in wow is totally not acceptable right?

You must have missed where they pulled the (playable) Draenei completely out of their ass.

Do you realize Draenei were in Warcraft series like Warcraft 3 right or your trolling.

What a load of pointless nonsense.

Take it you didn't read the thread and decided to Edit the rest of the thread comment. Must feel really good being a Editing troll aren't ya.

Keep bitching, Vulpera are happening. And I'm hoping for Sethrak as well, just to further trigger people such as yourself. Both races will have lore and established presence as of BfA, get over it you little snowflake.

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... How? How can you see something sexual with the Vulpera? Are you a Yiffer?

The ERPers will ALWAYS be happiest with the already present races, such as Blood Elves, Void Elves, Humans, Night Elves, Draenei, Nightborne... They are far more sexualized than the Vulpera, and also far more "human"-like. Hell, the Draenei already fill the shoes of Anthropomorphic animal ERP which is hilarious whenever some bright mind comes along to say "Hurr Vulpera will attract furries!"...

Because adding in unnecessary races that noone asked for and yet they feel salty and triggered by it. Yea if you been playing this game for nearly 10 years straight you would be annoyed by some of stupid changes within the game.

[Kralljin]

Forums reflect a minority, and the people complaining about these races are a small minority of that. There's no contradiction.

Point is, forums are representative or they're not.

If they're not representative it is irrelevant which group is the minority, as those numbers do not reflect the entire playerbase.

[Directionalk9]

I agree with most of what is said in OP. Not everything is black and white but yes, Blizzard should continue adding allied races or races only when it makes sense as it did before and not just because people are vocal about it.

There’s a lot of indications that adding Vulpera to the horde will make sense. So you agree with the OP in spirit, but not with the races he’s specifically talking about?

[Veluren]

He spent 3 paragraphs insulting the races and impugning the people who might want to play them. "Force it down anyone's throat"? Nah. Just shame people for liking them.

This is basically what's shot OP's point in the foot, constructive breeds constructive, this... not really.

He started off by off-handedly insulting the people who would like them playable, this thread was probably never gonna end up being constructive since it was born out of negativity.

[Cradix]

You don't make the rules, It's blizzards choice regardless of how much you dislike the new playable races, and races in the future.

This in a nutshell. OP's opinions are entirely worthless.

Blizzard feels the Vulpera and Sethrak fit into the game, and OP's opinion is completely and instantly rendered worthless as Blizzard are the arbitrators of what is and isn't valid in the setting.

And if Blizzard makes them playable...well, who gives a shit what some nobody who doesn't work at Blizzard thinks?

Besides, OP's an idiot who's arguing that Allied Races are somehow Sub-races, when the entire point of Allied races is to allow them to let us ally with races that aren't actually related to the current races.

[Darktbs]

Do you realize Draenei were in Warcraft series like Warcraft 3 right or your trolling.

The draenei of Wc3 are the today Broken and the today's draenei were/are the Eredar.

What he/she is probably refering is the Blue perfect Draenei that we play, which, were new stuff somewhat similar to the Void elfs.

[Pull My Finger]

Take it you didn't read the thread and decided to Edit the rest of the thread comment. Must feel really good being a Editing troll aren't ya.

I actually did, which is why I was instantly able to conclude what a load of vomit it is.