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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    oh wow TESTING A SINGLE long range missle. dam we better start quaking in our boots. v.s our thousands of long range missles. oh wait we can just shoot it down.
    also it's okay lei shei just keep posting your american hate boner all over this forum.
    Just to point out, there has not been a single successful ICBM intercept test to this day. There have been cruise missile intercept tests and a single IRBM test. But they mostly operate in atmosphere and are barely over sound speed limit (at least those that were tested against, even IRBM was atmosphere only flight). But even if we look at cruise missiles, tests were successful only when flight path has been predetermined.
    Just to stress a point, last December Saudi Arabia tried intercepting an allegedly Iranian SR/MRBM. They fired 5 Patriot missiles at it almost head on. None hit. The missile flew over missile defense battery, reached its target (airport) and blew up close to a runway. Another case was when an anti ship cruise missile was launched at a US ship. The ship launched a volley of missiles and counter measures, but there still is no evidence if anything had an effect or missile simply broke down mid flight. No hits were registered by the ship at least. Real missiles are not synthetic tests. Realistically speaking, no country in the world has technology to shoot down ICBMs with success rates that are above fluke chance. IRBMs are also purely theoretical at this point. SRBM and MRBM interceptions also have a very low success rates, even when targeted by multiple missiles and countermeasures.
    Last edited by Gaaz; 2018-03-18 at 07:39 PM.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    1. Try asking the Ukraine how that worked out, I must have missed your massive EU army rushing in to save the day
    I wasn't aware that Ukraine was a member of the EU, when did that happen?

    A good old facepalm, is the appropriate response to the rest of your drivel.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    US lost to a small country, Vietnam. Enough said.

    Where does the China get the money to buy Subs and Aircraft Carriers? Every time you buy something "Mad in China".

    The good news is that China will never attack US, as long as it owns trillions of US bonds.
    The US didnt loose the war, they lost support back home in the states... and the US Congress, did what they thought was best, signed a peace agreement, and pulled the troops back home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRainingMetal View Post
    I wasn't aware that Ukraine was a member of the EU, when did that happen?

    A good old facepalm, is the appropriate response to the rest of your drivel.
    Must have happened in the last hour or so, but the European medias is all over the putin "victory" so, we wont know for sure, if the Ukraine is an EU memberstate, until tomorrow...
    "It takes a vast amount of self control to be this dangerous" he said.

    - Ogvai, 6th legiones Astartes.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Svad1287 View Post
    The US didnt loose the war, they lost support back home in the states... and the US Congress, did what they thought was best, signed a peace agreement, and pulled the troops back home.
    Peace agreement?

    The last time I checked, South Vietnam is gone !

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Svad1287 View Post
    Must have happened in the last hour or so, but the European medias is all over the putin "victory" so, we wont know for sure, if the Ukraine is an EU memberstate, until tomorrow...
    Yeah, you are probably right. I confess, I didnt check the news in the last couple of hours. Tomorrow it is then..

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsRainingMetal View Post
    Yeah, you are probably right. I confess, I didnt check the news in the last couple of hours. Tomorrow it is then..
    Watching the russia stuff on the TV at the moment, 50% of the votes have been counted, but putin only has 75% of them. Gonna be a tough job to get to 200%, but then again, he only needs 101% to beat hitler and saddamn hussein

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenogear3 View Post
    Peace agreement?

    The last time I checked, South Vietnam is gone !
    Peace agreement the 27th of january 1973...
    "It takes a vast amount of self control to be this dangerous" he said.

    - Ogvai, 6th legiones Astartes.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Humpty Doo View Post
    This is worrisome

    Or Allies the USA may have to play catch up to the Chinese

    Hopefully, the guys at MIT are working on secret weapons...

    This is why the USA needs to have more money for weapons
    Maybe Allies should pay some protection money, so the US Taxpayer does not ultimately pay.


    It looks like China accidentally revealed plans for a massive aircraft carrier and submarines to rival the US
    ALEX LOCKIE
    MAR 17, 2018, 2:55 AM

    Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com/chin...qkDby5mxWp9.99

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/?r=US&IR=T


    This was pretty much already known when they started buying old carriers and building small ones.

  8. #68
    Does China even have the millitary / war experience that the US and its allies have?

    I mean most of NATO have been fighting in the ME for the last 20 years give or take a year or two + the US has been fighting modern warware since 90-91 in the first Irac war*

    *Not really war, more like a rout...
    "It takes a vast amount of self control to be this dangerous" he said.

    - Ogvai, 6th legiones Astartes.

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    Hahahaha, Trump, better leader, hahahahahahahahhahahahaha good one.

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    The language of Great Britain. Got a problem with that? Just wait a few years and you'll see I'm right, better get started learning Chinese.
    Actually you are using the American English version. Not a bit of British in your writing. As for trump and just about every president in the US....he wont be in the white house forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svad1287 View Post
    Does China even have the millitary / war experience that the US and its allies have?

    I mean most of NATO have been fighting in the ME for the last 20 years give or take a year or two + the US has been fighting modern warware since 90-91 in the first Irac war*

    *Not really war, more like a rout...
    Last thing they really did was also fight Vietnam where no one really won anything.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Humpty Doo View Post
    Well I do feel the USA Allies need to give payback to the US for protection

    It must be costing US Taxpayers a lot ..

    I believe, Australia & New Zealand taxpayers give some money to the Queen
    Who will not protect us during times of conflict.
    Maybe say some speach

    But during WW2 , the USA sacraficed lives for Australia & NZ... will never forget that
    The US military is not a protection racket. The second the US starts demanding "protection money" the US would kill most of the alliances it depends on. Of the top 20 militaries in the world the US is closely allied with, standardized with and inter-operable with maybe 18 of them.

    And the US military is already indirectly subsidized by foreign nations via that relationship. It sells its weapon systems and services to its allies which contribute into development costs. And also in turn it has access to technologies and weapon systems developed by its allies. As it can call up on their manpower. NATO spend an unholy amount of money and manpower fighting in Afghanistan for example.
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  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by stomination View Post
    Actually you are using the American English version. Not a bit of British in your writing. As for trump and just about every president in the US....he wont be in the white house forever.

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    Last thing they really did was also fight Vietnam where no one really won anything.
    Shh, they werent there... officially ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    The US military is not a protection racket. The second the US starts demanding "protection money" the US would kill most of the alliances it depends on. Of the top 20 militaries in the world the US is closely allied with, standardized with and inter-operable with maybe 18 of them.

    And the US military is already indirectly subsidized by foreign nations via that relationship. It sells its weapon systems and services to its allies which contribute into development costs. And also in turn it has access to technologies and weapon systems developed by its allies. As it can call up on their manpower. NATO spend an unholy amount of money and manpower fighting in Afghanistan for example.
    NATO and the countries, who were a part of the coalition. I think we here in Denmark spend something akin to 20 billion crowns +650 million in Libya, and thats not counting the troops and specialists we have in Syria / Irak at the moment.
    "It takes a vast amount of self control to be this dangerous" he said.

    - Ogvai, 6th legiones Astartes.

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