I couldn't take this seriously. All your points are based off personal experience instead of facts.
When master loot is on, there are always ninja looters.
FALSE
When master loot is on, trials are always abused.
FALSE
Your comment about abusiveness and trials seems very unfortunate. I am a GM of a 2 night a week mythic guild, and we ALWAYS give gear to trials before disenchanting, because if they do join, then they could benefit from the gear! It seems whatever guild you trialed for doesn't have a professional structure, and is failing it's people in the long run.
In regards to LootCouncil, yes. I do have that system set up. And we do have a voting system. I am the master looter and if a vote result goes through that I feel isn't right (ie, elitism w/ officer loot) I override it and decide for myself. The LootCouncil even has long discussions in Officer Chat about who would benefit the most from X piece of gear.
EPGP has its own flaws, and sorry to hear even though you outbid you lost your piece of gear. That's a flaw in the leader, not the master loot system.
Master Loot needs to stay for organized guilds who can't push to be the top 1%. Having people link gear they don't need (since it will be tradable loot on personal loot) and asking them to roll etc. is literally master loot, just with a different name.
Honestly?
The last time I have encountered ninja looting was during Cata in Tol Barad.
Never seen any trial abusing or disenchanting gears anyone could have needed.
Never abused by it, system was great, master loot cured my cancer.
If you seriously think the likes of EPGP is equivalent to ninjaing/elitism/funnelling gear you're an idiot or trolling.
I call it bullshit. I was in few guilds in past who used EPGP for example and all was fine... OP is just an troll...
Shame on this site, that more trolls are allowed be here...
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i saw this post on general forums it was pretty funny there too.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...2038289?page=1
I was never in a guild that didn't shamelessly abuse master loot. In wrath, they would funnel the loot from 25 man into the officer's 10 man heroic group. I remember getting replaced because they nabbed a better geared lock from another guild. Despite being there all the way to LK. In Cata my guild leader would hand out dkp to people just because they ran dungeons. In MoP, loot council basically just meant friends got loot first. I remember busting my ass to get all the epics I could get before Vaults landed. Then the officer who was still in blues got every loot drop. Then they had their geared warlock, and kicked half the guild to do 10 man.
We need perma's for guys like these... They just wait out the ban and then keep shitposting and not "learn". What is the point of infractions then?
They always told me I would miss my family... but I never miss from close range.
I was in a guild that abused Master Loot system to favor 1st raid members, while the rest were treated with "leftovers". That stabbed them in the back later in the expansion. About 15 people who were on the bench and myself (I was relatively new, but did not like the RL's attitude in general - not about gear for me personally) quit this guild and formed our own. The one we left soon crumbled, because it only had bare minimum amount of players without us. And they had to take PUGs into mythic raids if someone was missing because of that. And as you can imagine, mythic raiding and PUGs do not mix well.
But generally, the problem of loot abuse is overblown in proportions. Most loot abuse, if any, concerns players who are under performing. We had several cases when RL passed loot to players with better performance as a way to punish lower performing players (those who failed mechanics or were extremely low relative their level in terms of output).
I agree the OP is peculiar on his posts and he spammed the same thread for a little while.
But this one is actually good.
To be honest is good for me because it makes the PvE players salty about it.
I hated the world pvp hate threads because im a world pvp'er. but this one is good
My good that its not going anywhere
Anyone who thinks guild leaders shouldn't be able to choose who gets the loot just doesn't play this game seriously. I don't understand how ion could say what he said as a former top gm himself but this will not come to pass. There is no reason to remove master looted from this game. If you think those things happen, the problem is the guild, not the system.
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