Video console death: US boy, 9, 'kills sister, 13, over controller'

[Deleted]

Another gun accident, another american freedom story

[Teri]

Has absolutely nothing to do with video games, kids "fight" over toys or candy or whatever object.

The gun being there is the problem, and kids don't own guns.

And the gun itself isn't even the problem, just the place it happened to be in, apparently out in the open with no supervision.

[Kathandira]

It is only easier if something deadly is left around for kids to have access to. At my home, the firearms are locked up and I do not leave propane lighters around ether when children are present in my home. In my computer room ( where my firearms are kept also ) I have a collection of swords and daggers hanging on the walls. That room is locked up ( double deadbolt.) when we have children visiting.

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I was not referring to illegal drugs such as weed.

Sadly, the law and drug scheduling puts it in the same category as heroin. Which is why I would like to see that revisited before we enact the death penalty for drug dealers.

[Mormolyce]

Perhaps he was merely implementing the skills he learned from playing "Shoot Your 13 Year Old Sister In the Brain IV". Rated T for Teen.

[Dystemper]

Parents are to blame, but this is hardly the first time a kid has killed another over a video game. I remember a lot of these stories in the 70s and 80s . Stabbing, beaten to death etc etc. I think there was a story of a kid burning down his house with his entire family in it over a video game back i the early 80s.

[Mormolyce]

We should arm all sisters to ensure their safety from brothers. Also brothers to ensure their safety from sisters.

Who leaves a loaded controller near kids?!

We should restrict sales of rumble packs!

[Ghostpanther]

Sadly, the law and drug scheduling puts it in the same category as heroin. Which is why I would like to see that revisited before we enact the death penalty for drug dealers.

I agree. Those should be listed differently.

[Stop Pretending]

We should arm all sisters to ensure their safety from brothers. Also brothers to ensure their safety from sisters.



We should restrict sales of rumble packs!

Watch out now, don't want Thwart to start infracting you for this comment. Got one the other day for using the NRA's unofficial motto.

[Ghostpanther]

Parents are to blame, but this is hardly the first time a kid has killed another over a video game. I remember a lot of these stories in the 70s and 80s . Stabbing, beaten to death etc etc. I think there was a story of a kid burning down his house with his entire family in it over a video game back i the early 80s.

Correct. But it is easier to just blame a inanimate object like the gun, rather then the people who are suppose to be in control of it.

[Segus1992]

It is only easier if something deadly is left around for kids to have access to. At my home, the firearms are locked up and I do not leave propane lighters around ether when children are present in my home. In my computer room ( where my firearms are kept also ) I have a collection of swords and daggers hanging on the walls. That room is locked up ( double cylinder deadbolt.) when we have children visiting.

Seems you have some issues with remembering what we're talking about, so I'll remind you:
You're talking about how negligence in general is a bad thing and has nothing to do with guns being bad, in standard pro-gun fashion. I'm saying guns amplifies that negligence by risking others' lives as well, as there's no way to stop negligence from being a danger to the kids themselves, but we can stop it from being a danger to schools and public safety as a whole.

[Dystemper]

Seems you have some issues with remembering what we're talking about, so I'll remind you:
You're talking about how negligence in general is a bad thing and has nothing to do with guns being bad, in standard pro-gun fashion. I'm saying guns amplifies that negligence by risking others' lives as well, as there's no way to stop negligence from being a danger to the kids themselves, but we can stop it from being a danger to schools and public safety as a whole.

What about beatings, clubbing, stabbing, choking, setting on fire etc etc etc ?

[Ghostpanther]

Seems you have some issues with remembering what we're talking about, so I'll remind you:
You're talking about how negligence in general is a bad thing and has nothing to do with guns being bad, in standard pro-gun fashion. I'm saying guns amplifies that negligence by risking others' lives as well, as there's no way to stop negligence from being a danger to the kids themselves, but we can stop it from being a danger to schools and public safety as a whole.

I have no issues at all understanding what you said or remembering it. What I have issues with is the rants we see all the time about the access to firearms being the fault. Cars amplify your chances of dying when traveling faster than you should or using one in any reckless fashion. Using any deadly object irresponsibly is where the real blame needs to be placed.

[McFuu]

Clearly video games and children need to be banned.

[Segus1992]

What about beatings, clubbing, stabbing, choking, setting on fire etc etc etc ?

The first four are all very intentional and require physical force. Setting on fire either requires intent, knowledge (how to make a fire kill someone specifically), action (actually doing it), or just an accident spiralling way out of control.

Having access to a gun requires at best intent - very little knowledge or physical force is needed, but it's much easier to kill someone accidentally with a gun than it is with any of the other things you mentioned.

[zhero]

it isn't videos to blame for this, it was was an undisciplined, unsupervised child. the parents and the kid are to blame, he may not have understood the consequences of using that gun, but he certainly knew what he was doing.

[Segus1992]

I have no issues at all understanding what you said or remembering it. What I have issues with is the rants we see all the time about the access to firearms being the fault. Cars amplify your chances of dying when traveling faster than you should or using one in any reckless fashion. Using any deadly object irresponsibly is where the real blame needs to be placed.

Pretty sure we agree that the access to the gun is what's at fault in this scenario. You're just arguing that it could have been anything else that the 9-year old used to murder his sister accidentally, and that guns don't increase the number of murders.

[Frolk]

reading this "journalistic article" reduced my IQ by 10, it started with the headline.

[Antiganon]

What about beatings, clubbing, stabbing, choking, setting on fire etc etc etc ?

All far less likely to be lethal when performed by a 9 year old than a gunshot to the back of the head.

[svetlio]

American's, say no more

[Ghostpanther]

Pretty sure we agree that the access to the gun is what's at fault in this scenario. You're just arguing that it could have been anything else that the 9-year old used to murder his sister accidentally, and that guns don't increase the number of murders.

Access because the owner was irresponsible. Yes. Guns are very deadly weapons. I am not arguing that. But they exist and are not going anywhere where I live. The answer is to accept that and then punish those who misuse them and are irresponsible. Just like private transportation is not going anywhere. Laws and regulations need to exist of course and some improvements should and need to be made for unlawful use of firearms. People who are found to be willfully negligent with a firearm, should lose their right to possess them.