Video console death: US boy, 9, 'kills sister, 13, over controller'

[Dystemper]

And people that just say its not video games , there is some evidence to show Video games can make a child more aggressive

http://time.com/34075/how-violent-vi...ut-aggression/

[petej0]

I admit, I've done some stupid shit while driving before. Things that make me immediately pay more attention and curse myself out for being so dumb afterwards. I've nearly gotten into accidents at least twice before that were my fault, but instead of blaming other people, I take responsibility and try to avoid those situations in the future.

Wish more people were like that.

I agree, there has been a steady decline in responsibility and integrity in America. Many of our problems, I feel, are connected to this.

[Dystemper]

I guess we have a difference of opinion because where I live the chances of any of your examples happening are practically non existent.



Well, you do, I don't. Again, I guess that's why we have different opinions on this.

So because where you live means the rest of the country is the same?

[Unholyground]

And it turned into a gun control debate .

As it always should, I don't know anyone who has died of a gun related accident that wasn't a freak accident.

[LaserChild9]

Not saying it's right, but if people choose to own a gun and they have children, part of being a responsible gun owner and parent is to at least educate your child on what they are, what they look like, how deadly they are (meaning they are NOT toys) and what to do if they see one.

This kind of incident would likely not have happened had both children been educated on guns. And having a little less of a childhood due to having to be taught about guns is a LOT better than this tragedy.

But this to me just seems like covering your own ass as a parent which is not what it should be about. If you are not confident you can keep your guns and your children separate surely the answer is don't have kids or don't buy a gun.

[petej0]

I guess we have a difference of opinion because where I live the chances of any of your examples happening are practically non existent.

Thats fine, you obviously live in a different situation than I. Thats the joy of a free society, you can raise and teach your child what you think is important for living in your area, I can raise and teach my child what I think is important for living in my area. I will one day have to have the "Driving While Black" talk and how to act around police officers. You probably wont.

[Dystemper]

As it always should, I don't know anyone who has died of a gun related accident that wasn't a freak accident.

We have a Gun control Mega thread

[Unholyground]

We have a Gun control Mega thread

That is ok but the conversation will never go away until something is done about it regardless of "Mega Threads".

[Cthulhu 2020]

Kids at those ages are labile, and prone to aggression if pushed. Couple that with parents that dont properly explain the concept of gun lethality + media of guns being shot without clear consequence.

We've had kids beat other kids to death, due to simply not understanding that they would die.


This incident is entirely on the parents, and the fact that america is a place were its legal to own personalised firearms, why? Because something that caused death should kinda be idiot proof, guns clearly arents as this one wasnt secured, unloaded and locked in a safe.

So we either start enforcing how parents raise their children, or implement gun control.

Or just do as Republicans have done in the past and claim that thousands of dead bodies a year are the price of freedom.

[Ehrenpanzer]

Gun laws, great laws

kappa

Obviously video game consoles need to be armed to prevent living room tragedies

[Dellis0991]

My father had a gun, we NEVER knew he did till we sorted his personal belongings out after he died. My mom said he had it for years!

[Dystemper]

They won't ever do anything about it because "Muh amendments and rights!!11".

So you are for denying people their constitutional rights and freedoms? Is that what you are saying?

[Draco-Onis]

I guess it's a good thing the NRA destroyed any chance of having guns with finger print identifications we wouldn't want to deny kids their second amendment rights /s

[Katchii]

But this to me just seems like covering your own ass as a parent which is not what it should be about. If you are not confident you can keep your guns and your children separate surely the answer is don't have kids or don't buy a gun.

If you own a gun and have a child, there will come a time when that child will be exposed to the gun, whether intentionally or not. It is far better to educate them, expecting the interaction to occur at some point, than to hope that they'll never see it. You can't plan for everything, so there should be no way a parent can be 100% confident their child will never see the gun, THAT'S irresponsible to me because it's not based in reality and semi delusional.

[Antiganon]

And people that just say its not video games , there is some evidence to show Video games can make a child more aggressive

http://time.com/34075/how-violent-vi...ut-aggression/

Clickbait title, unproperly sourced statistics, dubious methodology, lack of parental screening for content.

Approximately 90% of children in the U.S. play video games, and more than 90% of those games involve mature content that often includes violence.

[citation needed]

Working with 3,034 boys and girls in the third, fourth, seventh, and eighth grades in Singapore, Anderson and his colleagues asked the children three times over a period of two years detailed questions about their video game habits. They were also given standardized questionnaires designed to measure their aggressive behavior and attitudes toward violence.

Overall, the students’ scores on aggressive behavior, as well hostile attitudes and fantasies about violence against others, declined slightly throughout the study. That’s because children tend to act less aggressively as they get older, and learn more mature ways of dealing with conflicts than lashing out.

But a closer look at kids who played more hours of violent video games per week revealed increases in aggressive behavior and violent tendencies, compared to those who played fewer hours a week. When asked if it was okay for a boy to strike a peer if that peer said something negative about him, for example, these kids were more likely to say yes. They also scored higher on measures of hostility, answering that they would to respond with aggressive action when provoked, even accidentally. The more long-term gamers were also more likely to fantasize about hitting someone they didn’t like.

“What this study does is show that it’s media violence exposure that is teaching children and adolescents to see the world in a more aggressive kind of way,” says Anderson. “It shows very strongly that repeated exposure to violent video games can increase aggression by increasing aggressive thinking.”

My question is this - why are we asking children between the ages of 8 and 13 about their experience with videogames intended for people 13 and over (or 18 and over in the cases of the actually violent ones), and labeled as such? Maybe parents should make sure their 8 year old isn't playing GTA or Call of Duty, just like parents should make sure their 8 year old isn't watching Rambo or Pulp Fiction, just like parents should make sure their 8 year old isn't listening to NWA or Disturbed.

[Dystemper]

Odds are this child had mental issues, either diagnosed or not. He has probably lashed out in a very violent manner before. The fault lies entirely with the parents for for failing to secure the fire arm. The gun didnt force the child to do this. He could have just as easily used a knife or a heavy object . The parents and the child are at fault and must live with this.

[Easo]

Obvious (for now, at least) issue lies with parents, who left a loaded gun unsecured, and I, guess, didn't really teach the kid about what it actually is and what it can do.

So you are for denying people their constitutional rights and freedoms? Is that what you are saying?

Dont overdo it, you perfectly well understood what he/she/it meant.

[LaserChild9]

Pretty sure you're sorely misunderstanding here. Nobody said weapons training, but rather instructing the kid on how dangerous a gun is. That should happen at the same time as the "don't touch stove when it's on, very hurty" or "don't touch the big knives, very hurty" conversation. So right about age 2-3?

It's about learning how to respect dangerous things, not about learning how to hit that infidel running away across the field.

I didn't have any of that but I always knew they were dangerous, if I saw them on tv, of in a comic, they were always portrayed as dangerous and that was all I needed. I didn't need a separate sit down to have it explained and nobody I know did.

[Kellorion]

Thoughts and prayers.....
......moving on

[Dystemper]

I guess it's a good thing the NRA destroyed any chance of having guns with finger print identifications we wouldn't want to deny kids their second amendment rights /s

Please just stop with this Bullshit. Biometric guns were a bad idea as they are now. They failed to work and actually put peoples lives at risk who depend on a firearm for protection. This was gone over ad nauseum in the Gun control mega thread