Should Demon Hunter be an option for void and nightborne elves?

[Danvash]

Just think about it, wouldn't it be amazing to play as a void-shrouded demon hunter with a meta form similar to the old black Burning Crusade model?

Another issue this would solve is the long grind required to get these races from 20-110, as demon hunters start in Legion content. Northrend and Outland are especially terrible for leveling, especially as Horde, apart from maybe Zangarmarsh.

As a side note, I'm curious if any devs have played through Howling Fjord as Horde, which I found to be especially terrible. The zone is one of the best in the game for Alliance in terms of gameplay and story-rich questing, but Horde get a bunch of slow escort quests, low spawn rate BS, lots of running back and forth, and an aircraft bombing mission that doesn't even give credit for half the kill targets. Obviously revamping these zones would cost a raid tier so to speak, but what they could do is increase the experience from the slow quests to make up for the time spent.

And enabling demon hunters for current and future allied races would alleviate some of the grind involved in unlocking the transmog sets. Justification could be that the demon hunters decided to train people from other races to wield demonic magic to fight Azeroth's enemies.

[united]

Void elves have been a thing for like 5 minutes.

Nightborne were stuck in a bubble for 10,000 years inbreeding with each other.

No.

[Steampunkette]

I think Demon Hunters should be available for these two elves, sure.

Also for Orcs and Draenei. And the Draenei become Red Eredar.

With Illidan gone and the Legion broken, have Altruis and Kayn should start training up new Demon Hunters for their respective factions with a new Starting Experience.

And make them ineligible for the Heritage Armor 'cause -obviously- they shouldn't have access to it if they start above level 20 (Though they could make the new DH experience start at level 20? >.>)

[Syegfryed]

of course no

it would not be amazing, damn dude, you guys want elves be any class in this game

[Accendor]

I think Demon Hunters should be available for these two elves, sure.

Also for Orcs and Draenei. And the Draenei become Red Eredar.

With Illidan gone and the Legion broken, have Altruis and Kayn should start training up new Demon Hunters for their respective factions with a new Starting Experience.

And make them ineligible for the Heritage Armor 'cause -obviously- they shouldn't have access to it if they start above level 20 (Though they could make the new DH experience start at level 20? >.>)

Yes. It would totally make sense to do it that way and not break the story in any so. So why not do it?

[Sergar]

I mean, if you wanted to ignore the extremely specific circumstance that playable demon hunters are created by (elves trained by Illidan pre-BC) you could make a case for a lot of races becoming demon hunters. Basically every race that has a demonic form has an argument for DH, which basically means all of the non-curse of flesh races. I don't know that you should though.

Your primary argument seems to that it should be just to make elf heritage armor easier to grind though. Do Borean Tundra questing like everyone else Horde side.

[Deleted]

Draenei (Eredar) and Orcs should be DH if anything (not so sure about the horde tho... Defective Eredar wouldn't be bad lorewise)

[OreoLover]

Another issue this would solve is the long grind required to get these races from 20-110...

...would alleviate some of the grind involved in unlocking the transmog sets.

Pretty sure those grinds are part of them being a carrot, and keeping people subbed.

[Deleted]

Yes, and let me be Orc and Eredar as well!

[Yuelle]

Zandalari demoniacs could be DH if Blizzard wanted them to be. They'd have to start outside of the original DH starting area though.

[vertigo12]

Lightforge Draenei are already "Demon Hunters" *insert Demonbane racial*, in fact all races and class are exactly DEMON HUNTERS in Legion expac.

[Almiria]

As I already said in other topics about DHs for allied races, I think they just need to add a special scenario where the character is trained and infused with fel magic to became a DH and start at level 20. Maybe they can travel to meet Illidan or be tought by other Demon Hunters. It make sense and allow a DH to start at low level. Same thing for DKs, raising an allied race as a DK and start at level 20.

[In Ogres We Trust]

Void Elves... no.
Nightborne... yes.

The Nightborne are, after all, nothing more than the Highborne members of elven society, and if that wasn't enough, they just went through the War of the Ancients, a relatively tranquil seclusion for 10,000 years, the War of the Ancients 2.0, and a demonic invasion and slaughter of their people. Out of any group, I can see them as potential demon hunters.

P.S. The Void Elves are pure garbage.

[RangerDaz]

Just think about it, wouldn't it be amazing to play as a void-shrouded demon hunter with a meta form similar to the old black Burning Crusade model?

Another issue this would solve is the long grind required to get these races from 20-110, as demon hunters start in Legion content. Northrend and Outland are especially terrible for leveling, especially as Horde, apart from maybe Zangarmarsh.

As a side note, I'm curious if any devs have played through Howling Fjord as Horde, which I found to be especially terrible. The zone is one of the best in the game for Alliance in terms of gameplay and story-rich questing, but Horde get a bunch of slow escort quests, low spawn rate BS, lots of running back and forth, and an aircraft bombing mission that doesn't even give credit for half the kill targets. Obviously revamping these zones would cost a raid tier so to speak, but what they could do is increase the experience from the slow quests to make up for the time spent.

And enabling demon hunters for current and future allied races would alleviate some of the grind involved in unlocking the transmog sets. Justification could be that the demon hunters decided to train people from other races to wield demonic magic to fight Azeroth's enemies.

Draenei (Eredar) and Orcs should be DH if anything (not so sure about the horde tho... Defective Eredar wouldn't be bad lorewise)

I made a thread where i would recomend demon hunters for the following classes: void elves and lightforged draenei for Alliance, nightborne and mag'har orcs for horde.

- Void elves and nightborne would become demonhunters to counter the blood elves and night elves respectively.

- Lightforged draenei demon hunter apprentices would be draenei who failed the lightforging ritual and succumbed to the fel addiction. To control themselves, they became felforged draenei demon hunters.

- Some mag'har orcs were still curious about the energies the corrupted orcs received, and decided to become corrupted as well on their free will. They become demon hunters for that reason.

As I already said in other topics about DHs for allied races, I think they just need to add a special scenario where the character is trained and infused with fel magic to became a DH and start at level 20. Maybe they can travel to meet Illidan or be tought by other Demon Hunters. It make sense and allow a DH to start at low level. Same thing for DKs, raising an allied race as a DK and start at level 20.

I also made a topic about that, where the DH ideas I wrote above are also included:

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...e-through-Lore

[Rhlor]

no!!!!

lore

[Fion Silberpfeil]

Void Elves... no.
Nightborne... yes.

The Nightborne are, after all, nothing more than the Highborne members of elven society, and if that wasn't enough, they just went through the War of the Ancients, a relatively tranquil seclusion for 10,000 years, the War of the Ancients 2.0, and a demonic invasion and slaughter of their people. Out of any group, I can see them as potential demon hunters.

P.S. The Void Elves are pure garbage.

And you know what? They were stuck under the dome. For like 10k years. BFA plays what? half a year at most after Legion. No time for training new Demon Hunters.

[Teri]

Nightborne certainly would not, since they are a playable race that got liberated from the Legion.

Playable Nightborne came after Gul'dan/Argus in the timeline. Just because we can play them early now, and experience Legion, it's still technically in the "past" after you leave the little start area at 20.

Thalyssra really hated the felborne.

No reason to have new Nightborne DH with a greatly weakened Legion.

A warlock is far different then a Demon Hunter, much like a Void Elf goes way beyond a Shadow Priest.

Nightborne Warlocks aren't Felborne either, no matter how much green transmog you use.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

If NB and VE could become demon hunters, every race could.

BE and NE can be demon hunters because they were trained by illidan during BC, if the new Illidari Lord could train more DH, why would or should he stick only to elves?

If they wanted to "alleviate the grind" for allied races, they would just get rid of it. A NB DH would probably just not be elegible for Heritage Armor.

[Deleted]

Zandalari demoniacs could be DH if Blizzard wanted them to be. They'd have to start outside of the original DH starting area though.

Not exactly. Demoniacs will translate as Warlocks, specifically Demonologists.

Regarding Velves and Nightborne : I don't think so based on Lore. It would only work if they were trained afterwards but right now there's no particularly high demand for an exclusive elite of specialized Demon Hunters.

[Techno-Druid]

I always thought orcs and draenei should have the option to be dhs. Considering their history with the Legion and presence on Outland. Would be a good way to give players the option of fel orcs and man'ari without making them allied races.