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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    No guns at all and you won't need "heroes with guns".
    Then it's school knifings, or school fire bombs. pretending like banning guns will solve your violence problems is just wishful dreaming. So unless you plan on advocating the total removal of free will from everyone with drug's or implants, turning people into good little brain dead zombies, then you are never going to avoid needing someone to stop the bad people of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post

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    Both of those things are the same one purpose lol.
    Bowling serves as self protection? lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathena View Post
    Uhm, yes? It was directed towards forum members who think striking down down the 2nd amendment would make the violence stop.
    No. Once again, that's the argument you people make whenever someone mentions it, just in reverse. "OMG, it won't disappear instantly, so don't bother, OMG UR SO DUM!!!" And yes, you people sound that moronic when you say it, because no one thinks it would.

    That doesn't make much sense.
    Exactly.

    I agree!
    Good, though I'm sure you won't agree now that it's been cleared up (for the third time) and is pointing at you.

    Disagree.
    Disagree all you like. Despite what you people think, having an idiotic opinion doesn't make it a fact.

    This. Guns in American is like pandoras box being opened. Sure, hope remains, but you can't put them back in the box unless the price is steep...
    Annnnnnnd again: Wrong, saving that it will takes years if not decades. All the other stupidity he mentioned -- costing "trillions of dollars" (lmfao), starting a fucking civil war, and causing countless deaths -- is all bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. Especially the war part, lmfao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    You can laugh and be as disingenuous as you want but you know what I was talking about as does everyone else.

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    It's OK if you laugh? And who is everyone else? Those who agree with your anti-gun rhetoric? If so, then no shit Sherlock. lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebe View Post
    This should be proof enough that heroes with guns is a good solution to school shootings
    Except the problem was a bad guy with a gun so its a push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassanova Frankenstein View Post
    No. Once again, that's the argument you people make whenever someone mentions it, just in reverse.
    I don't know who 'you people' are supposed to be in this context. Last time I shot a gun was in 2009, and I have no love for the NRA or anyone with a gun fetish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassanova Frankenstein View Post
    Disagree all you like. Despite what you people think, having an idiotic opinion doesn't make it a fact.
    Again with the emphasized 'you people', you know next to nothing about me, lol. Something being true, in this case that confiscating guns nationwide would be a dangerous and drawn out process, is true, regardless of who says it. Again, you don't know my political views, how I was brought up, or what's happened to me between birth and now, nor I with you. So can you stop painting with such a wide brush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassanova Frankenstein View Post
    All the other stupidity he mentioned -- costing "trillions of dollars" (lmfao), starting a fucking civil war, and causing countless deaths -- is all bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. Especially the war part, lmfao.
    The 2nd amendment is the second for a reason. After establishing free speech (and freedom of religion/the press) you need a way to safeguard it. THAT is why it's so important to people. So to suggest that people that have been stoked with fear and paranoia (government gonna take our gunnnns) wouldn't fight back is extremely short-sighted, and contradicts our history and the break away with England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebe View Post
    This should be proof enough that heroes with guns is a good solution to school shootings
    It's proof that someone did their job. Unlike the deputy in the Parkland shooting, which proves "good guys" with guns aren't a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    The amendments aren't listed in order of importance... If they are then we really need to be worried about why "slavery isn't okay" is so far down the list.
    Pfft it's only the 13th amendment, we don't need to follow it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    The amendments aren't listed in order of importance... If they are then we really need to be worried about why "slavery isn't okay" is so far down the list.
    Jefferson had slaves. Women's suffrage/rights weren't important until much later as well. The list goes on. Better to be alive now than then (here, at least).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    It would be funny if that happened though. They would be causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people so that they can have the illusion of protection... Basically sums up the anti-gun control side pretty well.
    I would argue that if the government were so intent on gun confiscation that they were willing to go to war with it's own citizens, that would seem to imply that fighting to keep them would be justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    Everyone who isn't a disingenuous douche, including people who are pro-guns and anti-gun control.
    I figured it was just a matter of time before the name calling came out of you. I do not consider anyone who disagrees with me a disingenuous douche because that would be a very immature reaction on my part. People are compassionate about what they believe in at times and I actually admire that, even if I disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    And aren't there still multiple kids that are critically injured? Sounds like a boy and a girl form what I heard, as in, this isn't even a real school shooting, this sounds like some sort of love triangle gone bad and maybe if that fucking kid didn't have access to a gun and had access to better mental health services, we wouldn't have a school shooting and multiple critically injured children.

    I thought that the gun thing was supposed to be a deterrent, sure as fuck didn't seem like a deterrent with multiple critical injured.

    Also, nice job OP, turning a school shooting into politics while the bodies are still warm.
    Or he would have just used a Knife instead?

    And the whole gun free zones sure as hell isn't deterring anyone now is it?

    Because you know the anti gun crowed NEVER dose that EVER am I right? Hell in your own post you do the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    It's because when you're a fat, lazy fuck, you're testosterone levels drop, your boobs get bigger, and your penis shrinks. They need to compensate. It's why whenever I have the displeasure of accidentally flipping to AM radio or a conservative leaning FM channel, I'm always hearing commercials for companies that can improve your testosterone.
    Funny, when ever I have the displeasure of accidentally tuning into CNN or MSNBC I see a bunch of Viagra commercials dose that mean the majority of the people who watch them can't get it up? I have an idea let's try and make points without resorting cheap shot's at people based on thier party!

    Quote Originally Posted by fwc577 View Post
    Kids are critically injured. That doesn't mean we don't have any deaths yet.
    I'm sorry, but this REALLY seams like you are hoping some one dies, so you can push the "See, people still died even with someone stopping the shooter" agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathena View Post


    The 2nd amendment is the second for a reason. After establishing free speech (and freedom of religion/the press) you need a way to safeguard it. THAT is why it's so important to people. So to suggest that people that have been stoked with fear and paranoia (government gonna take our gunnnns) wouldn't fight back is extremely short-sighted, and contradicts our history and the break away with England.

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    Yea, getting shot by angry people in traffic totally protects my free speech.. We would all be dead in a matter of hours if every ordinary citizen was carrying a gun around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    I would argue that if the government were so intent on gun confiscation that they were willing to go to war with it's own citizens, that would seem to imply that fighting to keep them would be justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    The story is developing, seems that a school resource officer shot the shooter in time.
    Two kids were wounded, one critically. The officer, by no definition shot the shooter in time.

    Get your head out of your ass.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    The amendments aren't listed in order of importance... If they are then we really need to be worried about why "slavery isn't okay" is so far down the list.
    All the Constitutional rights, I consider equally important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    Two kids were wounded, one critically. The officer, by no definition shot the shooter in time.

    Get your head out of your ass.
    In time to prevent the shooter from shooting others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStiglit View Post
    Yea, getting shot by angry people in traffic totally protects my free speech.. We would all be dead in a matter of hours if every ordinary citizen was carrying a gun around.
    I agree that if everyone was packing it would be chaotic (like the wild west). But no where did I suggest that free speech was between mutual civilians. It's about persecution by the government. Of my friends only 4 own firearms and only 1 of them has concealed carry. I side with 'keep that shit at home', so it boggles me when people walk around wal-mart with rifles slung, like what are they expecting? But that's them, I can only speak for myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sathena View Post
    Don't let Cassanova see this message. He'll 'YOU PEOPLE' you...
    I'm in the same kind of boat as you. I have never owned a gun, nor have I ever even fired a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    but fighting a war for your gun rights sure as fuck wouldn't be seen in a good light by the history books.
    Depends on who wins. This is of course jesting at the old 'victors write the history' saying tossed around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomzy View Post
    Yeah dude, typing "lol!" to mock someone is suuuuper mature.

    You got me.

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    Great logic.

    So in a way, Bush stopped 9/11, because 9/11 didn't keep happening.

    Good job, Bush.
    You should check your post where you laughed at me. Best not to be a hypocrite.

    It is true logic. And yes, the steps taken after 9/11 to beef up airport security did stop any more 9/11 style attacks.
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