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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    From a strategic point, from his perspective, you'd think he'd be smart enough to see why that would be an incredibly stupid thing to say. Half the country thinks he's a treasonous blowhard who went to the Russians for help winning an election, who's under the thumb of Putin because of kompromat. The last thing this feckless moron needs is to make statements that makes him look even more like a stooge of Vladimir Putin.
    But that just proves he's NOT a "treasonous blowhard who went to the Russians for help winning an election". If he was, he wouldn't raise suspicions by openly praising Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzkin View Post
    But that just proves he's NOT a "treasonous blowhard who went to the Russians for help winning an election". If he was, he wouldn't raise suspicions by openly praising Putin.
    Trump has done the most insanely stupid shit a president has ever done in the history of our country, and does stuff that backwater trailer trash would say.

    Him congratulating his boss for the victory would not be out of character at all.
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    John McCain had some choice words about this:
    "An American president does not lead the Free World by congratulating dictators on winning sham elections. And by doing so with Vladimir Putin, President Trump insulted every Russian citizen who was denied the right to vote in a free and fair election."

    And so did Ed Royce (R-CA), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee:
    "[Putin] does not deserve congratulations for his sham reelection. He made the outcome inevitable by silencing and disqualifying any credible opposition."

    https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/976185073191063552

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzkin View Post
    But that just proves he's NOT a "treasonous blowhard who went to the Russians for help winning an election". If he was, he wouldn't raise suspicions by openly praising Putin.
    He also congratulated Erdogan and Xi Jinping on consolidating their power and eliminating the Democratic systems that kept them in check, so the alternative is that he just really likes fascist authoritarian leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Trump has done the most insanely stupid shit a president has ever done in the history of our country, and does stuff that backwater trailer trash would say.

    Him congratulating his boss for the victory would not be out of character at all.
    If he truly was so stupid AND guilty at the same time, he would've been caught long ago. Stupid he might be, but not guilty. Indeed, the very reason why some people still seem so convinced about his guilt is him not thinking when he speaks. There's, then, bound to be some stuff in the mix which the people with confirmation bias can pick out and interpret in a way that feeds their pre-existing convictions. Such as him congratulating Putin, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzkin View Post
    If he truly was so stupid AND guilty at the same time, he would've been caught long ago. Stupid he might be, but not guilty. Indeed, the very reason why some people still seem so convinced about his guilt is him not thinking when he speaks. There's, then, bound to be some stuff in the mix which the people with confirmation bias can pick out and interpret in a way that feeds their pre-existing convictions. Such as him congratulating Putin, for example.
    You're assuming he's an adult with any amount of common sense. He's not. He's borderline mentally retarded with the mind of a toddler, at best. He's guilty as hell, just not smart enough to avoid incriminating himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    An intelligent man would distance himself from Russia the moment someone like Bob Mueller came a long and started shining lights in the dark.
    Absolutely! Even if protocol calls for congratulations, surely the Secretary of State can...

    Oh, wait.

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    Apparently his advisers even wrote: DO NOT CONGRATULATE for him on a note. Basically the president of the US is known by those around him to be incapable of doing the right thing unless specifically instructed, but clearly even that wasn't enough in this case. He's like one of those cartoons with an angel on one shoulder and a Russian dictator and criminal thug on the other and the angel loses out every time.

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    Your first mistake was assuming there was an angel on his shoulder to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzkin View Post
    If he truly was so stupid AND guilty at the same time, he would've been caught long ago. Stupid he might be, but not guilty. Indeed, the very reason why some people still seem so convinced about his guilt is him not thinking when he speaks. There's, then, bound to be some stuff in the mix which the people with confirmation bias can pick out and interpret in a way that feeds their pre-existing convictions. Such as him congratulating Putin, for example.
    Nixxon was caught 4 years after he began the watergate wire tapping, and 2 years after the investigation into it started. High profile cases typically take a long time, and Nixxon's example isn't the only one. Trump keeps acting like a person, constantly trying to impede the investigation, rather than simply letting it run its course. If he believes himself innocent, he wouldn't be trying to stop the investigation non stop.

    People don't always get caught soon after their crime, and your logic about everything has always been faulty. Sometimes guilty people act guilty, and congratulate another dictator on their win in an "election" that was a farce.
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    Of course, it is Trump's duty as governor of the largest Russian province to congratulate his president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akaihiryuu View Post
    He's borderline mentally retarded with the mind of a toddler, at best.
    I'm not sure he's borderline. He is so blisteringly and persistently stupid it's breathtaking.

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    It's good to brown nose your boss, that's how you move up in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzkin View Post
    But that just proves he's NOT a "treasonous blowhard who went to the Russians for help winning an election". If he was, he wouldn't raise suspicions by openly praising Putin.
    Name a single president that could say this:

    "There are a lot of killers," Trump responded. "Got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country's so innocent?"
    He openly wouldn’t raise suspicion by insulting America... but, he did... when defending Putin. His support and GOP just don’t care... the Muller investigation on the other hand, has 3 guilty plea and 13 indictments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akaihiryuu View Post
    You're assuming he's an adult with any amount of common sense. He's not. He's borderline mentally retarded with the mind of a toddler, at best. He's guilty as hell, just not smart enough to avoid incriminating himself.
    He has done everything from insulting America to not enforcing sanctions, in defending Putin. You can say he lacks common sense and I can point to his support not giving a shit. Trump and his shooting someone on the street comment, proves he knows he can say what ever he wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    He openly wouldn’t raise suspicion by insulting America... but, he did... when defending Putin. His support and GOP just don’t care... the Muller investigation on the other hand, has 3 guilty plea and 13 indictments.
    I forgot how suspicious it was that he wouldn't openly condemn Putin in that interview. Worse yet he took it further to ridicule (without much basis) the country he was the supposed leader of in defense of Putin.

    Thanks for reminding me.

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    President Trump did not follow specific warnings from his national security advisers when he congratulated Russian President Vladi*mir Putin Tuesday on his reelection, including a section in his briefing materials in all-capital letters stating “DO NOT CONGRATULATE,” according to officials familiar with the call.
    Washington Post reporting that Trump's own advisers told him not to congratulate Putin, going as far as to write it down in all caps as can be seen in the quote above. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a resignation or two over this, it's like why bother advising someone who will completely blow you off like that.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.a11f0a8c9eb1

    Edit: Connal beat me to it.

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    "Leader of a nation engages in normal diplomatic process"

    Someone stop the press!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitten View Post
    "Leader of a nation engages in normal diplomatic process"

    Someone stop the press!!!
    You need your head checked if you think its normal to give congratz to a enemy country on winning a rigged election.

    Even more so when it has been proven said country committed a act of war vs your country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    He had to kiss the ring, otherwise the peepee tapes might "leak".
    yes yes Obama also congratulated Putin on re-election in 2012 and didn't do anything even tho he was aware of election meddling in 2016....welcome to business as usual. Hopefully you get your pee tape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    You need your head checked if you think its normal to give congratz to a enemy country on winning a rigged election.

    Even more so when it has been proven said country committed a act of war vs your country.
    Obama congratulated Putin in 2012 stop being a drama queen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    You need your head checked if you think its normal to give congratz to a enemy country on winning a rigged election.

    Even more so when it has been proven said country committed a act of war vs your country.
    Macron and Merkel congratulated Putin. Congratulating leaders on winning elections even if they are rigged is just normal diplomatic stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valizix View Post
    Obama congratulated Putin in 2012 stop being a drama queen
    Last I checked, Putin wasn't fucking with other countries elections in 2012.

    Stop being a drama queen yourself.

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