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    Realm pop not showing allied races?

    Hey. ( https://realmpop.com/ )

    Does any of you guys know the reason for this?

    Will they ever get the alllied races numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkagenRora View Post
    Hey. ( https://realmpop.com/ )

    Does any of you guys know the reason for this?

    Will they ever get the alllied races numbers?
    Maybe there isn't enough to show each individually?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Maybe there isn't enough to show each individually?
    Feels like there are millions of void elves atleast . But maby you're right..

    I just want to see which gender picked for lighforged, On Normal draenei it's 63% female, but i was wondering if the new options for male the beard etc made them more appealing to people, or if most people still went female

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    Pick what YOU like.

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    But isn't RealmPop data already flawed even without allied races?
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    Allied Races population is the lowest since they are locked behind rep grinds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    But isn't RealmPop data already flawed even without allied races?
    If you got a better source for number, then please do tell, But i'm gonna believe it until i'm presented with another option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkagenRora View Post
    If you got a better source for number, then please do tell, But i'm gonna believe it until i'm presented with another option.
    There is no real reliable source, that is where I was heading.
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    On the pie charts, there is a gray section now. Maybe it represents the Allied Races.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkagenRora View Post
    If you got a better source for number, then please do tell, But i'm gonna believe it until i'm presented with another option.
    Just because there are no better data it doesn't mean Realmpop is reliable either.

    But it gives some perspective - Blood Elves are very popular, for example. Not that you need Realmpop to figure that out but it at least matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    But isn't RealmPop data already flawed even without allied races?
    RealmPop scrapes the armory, which means it won't show characters that haven't logged in in a while or under level 20. It's the same data source MMO uses for occasional graphs on the front page. RealmPop is as reliable as the armory itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkagenRora View Post
    If you got a better source for number, then please do tell, But i'm gonna believe it until i'm presented with another option.
    So a lack of real, official and ACCURATE data = you'll believe whatever?

    Nice one.

    From scouring the web, Realmpop has only ever held any credibility amongst 1 particular group of players, AKA the ones desperate for the game to be performing badly. Simply because no matter what Realmpop does, it will never show anything that can be verified, it won't be updated by official channels, it won't be grasping at more than what it can easily reach.

    So seems there's no reliable source, really. I wish they'd at the very least release another one of those MoP graphs they did with statistics.
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    Realmpop has a grey pie piece at the Races, it just hasn't split them up yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    But isn't RealmPop data already flawed even without allied races?
    Do you have anything to actually back that up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanegasi View Post
    RealmPop scrapes the armory, which means it won't show characters that haven't logged in in a while or under level 20. It's the same data source MMO uses for occasional graphs on the front page. RealmPop is as reliable as the armory itself.
    That is true but still not reliable data for an overall count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feuerbart View Post
    Pick what YOU like.
    What if what I like is to play the least played race/class combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    Do you have anything to actually back that up?
    Nothing to back it up, it is common knowledge that only Blizzard has the correct numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanegasi View Post
    RealmPop scrapes the armory, which means it won't show characters that haven't logged in in a while or under level 20. It's the same data source MMO uses for occasional graphs on the front page. RealmPop is as reliable as the armory itself.
    Since allied races begin at 20 wouldn't that second part be irrelevant to this particular discussion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Nothing to back it up, it is common knowledge that only Blizzard has the correct numbers.
    But that doesn't mean realmpop is flawed.That's pretty much as accurate as you can get. Yeah blizzard has subscription numbers but that doesn't have anything to do with realmpop, which shows characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanegasi View Post
    RealmPop scrapes the armory, which means it won't show characters that haven't logged in in a while or under level 20. It's the same data source MMO uses for occasional graphs on the front page. RealmPop is as reliable as the armory itself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    But that doesn't mean realmpop is flawed.That's pretty much as accurate as you can get. Yeah blizzard has subscription numbers but that doesn't have anything to do with realmpop, which shows characters.


    It somewhat scrapes the armory

    To get the list of characters for a realm, first we record all the characters who posted to the auction house. Then we fetch and record their guild rosters. This should cover the majority of characters on a realm. To avoid getting listed, a character must never post to the auction house, and never belong to a guild where a guild member posts to the auction house.
    First it scrapes the AH API (assuming they use Blizzard vs 3rd party site. Then it goes to armory. So it still misses a good chunk of data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corroc View Post
    But that doesn't mean realmpop is flawed.That's pretty much as accurate as you can get. Yeah blizzard has subscription numbers but that doesn't have anything to do with realmpop, which shows characters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    First it scrapes the AH API (assuming they use Blizzard vs 3rd party site. Then it goes to armory. So it still misses a good chunk of data.
    Lucetia put it quite well.
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