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  1. #21
    Nice fanfiction.

    I would like Sylvanas not to be Warchief as prefered her being a renegade leader. Voss was a wild card didn't think of but... yeah. Dreams.

  2. #22
    There's quite a few rather iconic Forsaken characters that could rule in her stead. Faranell and Hercular come to my mind. At least they've been Forsaken through and through, unlike Voss who'd feel forced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    unlike her traitorous sisters.
    Yeah, shame on them for helping their allies during a time of war.

    Shame on Alleria for honoring her people's debt to the Arathi bloodline and helping the Alliance fight the invading Orcs... Shame on her for going to Outland to shut the Dark Portal and cut the head off the snake that decimated her homeland and killed both her brother and mother during the second war.

    Shame on Vereesa for following orders from her superiors and escorting Rhonin during his quest. Shame on her for staying with her husband and two children. Shame on her for not being ok with her people allying with the invaders that decimated her homeland and killed her friends and family.

    Shame on them, they are totally bad people and definitely traitors, they definitely don't see the blood elves as the traitors either /s
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    This isn't the first time somebody has proposed a theory like this; Sylvanas being granted life again and becomes a high elf once more. Hell, I remember reading a fan novel on fanfiction.net that details this exact plot point.

    Probably won't happen, as Blizzard will be chastised for recycling another plot point from their other franchises, namely Kerrigan from Starcraft II.

  5. #25
    She's going to sacrifice herself in some way for the "greater good"
    I'm thinking something along the lines of how Illidan sacrificed himself.
    We know Blizz likes those edgy characters and redemption stories.

    That way people can say "SEE SHE WAS GOOD"

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Raziella View Post
    Is there any precedence for a Forsaken being restored to non-undead life? I feel like that would be a game changer for those people, and their loyalties.
    I'm not going to trudge around with my bones hanging out moaning about it if there's another option.

    Also, not terribly keen on where they seem to be going with Voss.
    Sylvanas is the leader of the forsaken but isn't exactly like them. The Forsaken were turned by the Scourge, which is basically a zombie plague. Sylvanas had her soul ripped from her body and kept bound to this world by the Lich King's magic. She later broke that control and found her body, reentering it, but she very much isn't a corpse. Her fate is different from that of the Forsaken, so it isn't unreasonable that she could be "restored" some how.
    But in the story, she is essentially living a second life. She isn't an undead high elf, she is more a physical banshee. It also seems that she is more fragile than the rest of the undead, story wise they take massive amounts of effort to stop or kill, Sylvanas on the other hand seems more mortal in that regard.

  7. #27
    Saurfang will step up
    God pls no

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziella View Post
    Is there any precedence for a Forsaken being restored to non-undead life? I feel like that would be a game changer for those people, and their loyalties.
    I'm not going to trudge around with my bones hanging out moaning about it if there's another option.

    Also, not terribly keen on where they seem to be going with Voss.
    The only time it's shown and mentioned is in Stormrage - but it's all a dream brought on by the Emerald Nightmare. Sylvanas is given life again by Varimathras, but he does so with the intention of killing her and raising her just to control her. Otherwise, no, it's not possible in current lore.
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    I don`t care anymore tbh. The best character arc imo (meaning character progression displayed in the game) was Garrosh and that ended mediocre at best. At least you could guess/understand his position and reasoning. Second best is probably Andiun but his story (as a horde player) is so full of gaps that I never really gave a shit. With Sylvanas I was actually hoping that with her becoming warchief and her story that started in legion something great might happen, but in true Blizzard fashion that story just stopped after that cinematic with good boye. Maybe it`s too hard/too much given that Bizzard needs to push a "main bad force" story every ~ 2 years for a new expansion, but the development of so-called "key characters" is lacking. Instead we got most attention on Illidan who - at the end of the expansion - disappears (with the chance for "I'll be back").

    I don`t know shit about this kinda stuff but to my inexperienced eyes it seems that Blizzard puts way too much focus on "cool stuff", like Illidan or Pandaren, and sacrifice cohesion for it. I still like the game and I´ll play it, but the days of reading about Lore on Wowpedia or whatever have long gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    And then she'll freak out over everything she has done since she's lead the Forsaken, once her conscience and emotions are fully restored, plunging herself to death from the highest tower in Quel'thalas.
    good one xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by united View Post
    Sylvanas will get “redeemed” and become a live high elf again. The horde will then have “high elves” (honestly just blue eyed blood elves) join their faction because the remaining high elves will see Sylvanas as a hero that actually died fighting for Quel’thalas unlike her traitorous sisters.

    Nathanos will be killed, either by Greymane or Tyrande, or as a part of the effort to redeem Sylvanas.

    And as for Lilian Voss? In this expansion there is dialogue to show they’ve made her pro horde/Forsaken, because spending 5-6 years as the very thing you hate will change your perspective on things. Lilian will eventually replace Sylvanas as the Forsaken faction leader.

    Sylvanas will step down as warchief, and Saurfang will step up. She’ll move back to Quel’thalas and be active in politics with Lor’themar, Liadrin, Rommath, and Halduron.
    Would make more sense if Sylvannas gets killed along with Nathanos and Lilian picks up her torch as the new undead faction leader. I was hoping they'd keep Sylvannas around since I like her character, but judging from what she did in Lorderon scenario (plaguing everyone, Alliance AND Horde), it seems like they are gonna have her steer down the wrong path.

    This could only end in her death and replacement.


    My theory would be BfA ending with Saurfang as the new Horde leader and Voss as the new undead leader.
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  12. #32
    Yeah Blizzard should totally give the same exact race with different color eyes as an allied race, that's be the best idea ever....

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    Yeah Blizzard should totally give the same exact race with different color eyes as an allied race, that's be the best idea ever....
    Everyone wants High Elves now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    Yeah Blizzard should totally give the same exact race with different color eyes as an allied race, that's be the best idea ever....
    Lightforged say, "Hello." Seriously, tattoos, different horns, and gold-rimmed hooves are not that different from eye color. You can't really see any of it with armor on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewbacca View Post
    Lightforged say, "Hello." Seriously, tattoos, different horns, and gold-rimmed hooves are not that different from eye color. You can't really see any of it with armor on.
    It really is different though. Not only the customization, but the lore. If they decide to dedicate a giant patch to HE lore, assimilating them into the current world, then it would be a different story.

  16. #36
    Fanboys would get mad but she should be upended as a raid boss. Baine would make the best replacement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    If they decide to dedicate a giant patch to HE lore, assimilating them into the current world, then it would be a different story.
    Good news! Lots of High Elf lore in WotLK with the Silver Covenant. See also:

    Cataclysm
    (Patch 4.1) Zul'Aman.
    Mists of Pandaria
    (Patch 5.1) The Purge of Dalaran
    (Patch 5.2) The Isle of Thunder
    (Patch 5.3) The Siege of Orgrimmar
    Legion
    (Patch 7.0) Hunter Hall
    (Patch 7.1) Siege of Suramar
    (Patch 7.3) Assault on Argus

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    It really is different though. Not only the customization, but the lore. If they decide to dedicate a giant patch to HE lore, assimilating them into the current world, then it would be a different story.
    I was responding to the guy saying that Blizzard would never add a subrace with as minimal a change as different eye color. They did Lightforged... High Elves are definitely possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traycor View Post
    Everyone wants High Elves now.
    Nope, but if high elves happen, then Horde should get them, and simply in the form of blue eye color for blood elves. Alliance got void elves. With the sunwell restored, blood elves can go back to using different magics than the fel, hence green eyes. With using the sunwell, they gained yellow. And if they were using arcane? Well, where is the blue eyes option? With void? oh, right, they were exiled.

    but as to this threads op? very doubtful

    There is only one way i can see in coming in BfA for Sylvannas to gain back her "high elven" form, and that simply is through Vol'jin. Even then, i doubt she will gain her high elven form, but simply become an immortal being that, or given the knowledge that when she dies, it will be Vol'jin and Bwasamdi that will come and take her soul, and not end in the lowest abyss. Or at least given true knowledge of the afterlife, not the hell she saw being impaled on saronite.

    As to being Warchief? Sylvannas may step down, or she may become more diplomatic through the course at the end of the expansion.

    Saurfang becoming warchief? no. I like him as leader of the Orcs, but with how he acted at the undercity battle, no. He acted dishonorably to the horde as a whole, with his own selfish pride for an honorable death.

    Killing nathanos? Sure. I hate the windrunners always going for humans. Plus, hes been a dick to me all through legion and into bfa as the Horde champion.

    Lillian Voss' turn to becoming more and more forsaken, actually makes sense. It is seen in the beginning of a forsaken life that the strong willed and mind are rebellious to falling in line, and that some turn to the argent crusade or attempt down their own path. Joining the argent crusade, even after many years as a forsaken, has similar merits to being within the forsaken. But in the end, I do like that she has had some character growth. As to becoming the forsaken leader, i am for her to head it, but it would only make sense if sylvannas chose her, not simply because of how powerful she is, but because what she represents. A new generation of the forsaken, not born out anger or rage or from the lich king (as her broadcast texts says), but birthing forsaken that are useful to the horde and wish for the curse. That would be the only way i would like her to be the forsaken leader. Otherwise, it would Nathanos as the next in line, even if he is a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Traycor View Post
    Good news! Lots of High Elf lore in WotLK with the Silver Covenant. See also:

    Cataclysm
    (Patch 4.1) Zul'Aman.
    Mists of Pandaria
    (Patch 5.1) The Purge of Dalaran
    (Patch 5.2) The Isle of Thunder
    (Patch 5.3) The Siege of Orgrimmar
    Legion
    (Patch 7.0) Hunter Hall
    (Patch 7.1) Siege of Suramar
    (Patch 7.3) Assault on Argus
    That supports them being on Alliance, not horde. There'd have to be an entire flip in the story.

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