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    If it makes you feel better no one actually cares about beating it on legendary
    Guess my ego got hurted a bit...But it makes me feel better, yeah.
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  2. #8622
    I am officially giving up on this game and deleting it. Maybe it's the fact that this is day 4 since quitting smoking, but I just can't take the needless toxicity I see/hear (even when not directed at me), the people that throw games because they feel they don't get healed (sorry DVa/Winston players, but when you dive bomb into 6 enemies and/or LoS, and your heals are Ana and Zen, you're not going to receive a lot), the blatant idiocy and ignorance, or the direction the game is going.
    Blizzard has a long standing track record of, instead of finding a balance and tuning to it, they instead shift the focus elsewhere and create more unbalance. I get enough of that swing power stuff in WoW, not dealing with it in another of their products.
    That's not to say OW has been nothing but shit. I truely did love this game and have fun with it in the early months, but shortly after s3 ended it has just been downhill for me, both in how I playand the quality of matches since the beginning.
    To all still playing, good luck and I hope you continue to have fun with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JajaBongs View Post
    I don't know but the placements for gold is just wrong. Probably because it's the mass placement. But the skill gap in the Gold placements is that hard. You see players making basic mistakes with tactical flaws over and over. Then there are people that are just sick, aiming like a god, playing flawless and really don't deserve to be placed in that ranks. That happened yesterday, there was an enemy Soldier who was just sick. That I say something like that about an enemy means something as I am really a salty bitch.

    But due to that felt false MMR so many matches are just disgusting to play...
    You're not being salty, you're being correct.

    Silver and especially Gold, have become an ELO Hell to the highest degree, starting from Season 4 or 5,
    and its only gotten infinitely worse since then.

    Its why I haven't been able to hit my old rank (Platinum) again. The game's absolutely abysmal match
    making consistently pairs me with the same assholes you're paired with that just fuck us over every
    damn time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    I mean the first handful of seasons upto 4 at least were incredibly fun and engaging, I was encountering such a high quality of player, communicative, flexible people.
    Agreed. Thinking back on it now, those were the only times I was capable of actually climbing
    through the ranks. Now I'm fucking stuck because of how horseshit the system is.
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    from all the 4 brackets i played since s2, bronze (thanks to the snowball effect back then I fell like a rock from 1800 to 699) -> plat:
    gold is the worst
    in silver they atleast try to win
    in gold 90% are like: "I can't carry you shitheads" despite being total garbabe and have less than 0 awerness

    minimum lvl for comp should be higher imo
    25 is way not low, many people don't know more than a few heroes and to many smurfs
    with lvl, idk 50 maybe even 100, there wouldn't be so much smurfs as there are now

    on another note:
    I want my lil' paladin girl in comp
    and her mechanic/engineer skin should be her default skin

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    You're not being salty, you're being correct.

    Silver and especially Gold, have become an ELO Hell to the highest degree, starting from Season 4 or 5,
    and its only gotten infinitely worse since then.

    Its why I haven't been able to hit my old rank (Platinum) again. The game's absolutely abysmal match
    making consistently pairs me with the same assholes you're paired with that just fuck us over every
    damn time.



    Agreed. Thinking back on it now, those were the only times I was capable of actually climbing
    through the ranks. Now I'm fucking stuck because of how horseshit the system is.
    if u cant reach a rating its because u shouldnt be at that rating, thats not the games fault but u not being good enough for that rating...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    if u cant reach a rating its because u shouldnt be at that rating, thats not the games fault but u not being good enough for that rating...
    That is incorrect. Not just specifically for myself but for others as well.

  7. #8627
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    That is incorrect. Not just specifically for myself but for others as well.
    Not to mention I heard of players buying a new account for comp and place/climbed a whole lot better (a few I know easily jumped into masters to Top 500) and rarely any of them fell back to their old rank. Not going to say the system is broken but feels like the game is actively keeping low ranked players that are improving their overall performance low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renwin View Post
    Not to mention I heard of players buying a new account for comp and place/climbed a whole lot better (a few I know easily jumped into masters to Top 500) and rarely any of them fell back to their old rank. Not going to say the system is broken but feels like the game is actively keeping low ranked players that are improving their overall performance low.
    This happened to me. Got a new account, instantly placed into Diamond when the game had been holding my main account back at Plat forever. Next season I placed into diamond and came a game short of going into Masters. Will likely place or gain masters fairly quickly.
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  9. #8629
    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    A bunch of condescending garbage.
    Lol ok bro. It’s definitely my fault that I don’t have the time to assemble a team to play with 24/7. I add people all the time and vice versa but for whatever reason there never seems to be more than maybe one person ready and willing to play when I can spare an hour or two to do so myself. But hey, my rank is a result of me victim blaming even though I try to group up when I can, play whatever is needed in comp games, etc. Seems legit.

    I’m definitely not perfect and I make mistakes, but I’m rarely if ever actually responsible for a loss because I’m s halfway decent player and adjust when I make mistakes or the team needs me to do so.

  10. #8630
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Tried placements. Me and 5 other randoms get put against a team of 6 People in a party all Gold Ranked.

    Blizzard queue system is shit.
    Its placements man... You just have to deal with those 10 game. The more you lose the lower you start, if you have a good premade team you will destroy all the people in the range you were placed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatsi View Post
    Lol ok bro. It’s definitely my fault that I don’t have the time to assemble a team to play with 24/7. I add people all the time and vice versa but for whatever reason there never seems to be more than maybe one person ready and willing to play when I can spare an hour or two to do so myself. But hey, my rank is a result of me victim blaming even though I try to group up when I can, play whatever is needed in comp games, etc. Seems legit.

    I’m definitely not perfect and I make mistakes, but I’m rarely if ever actually responsible for a loss because I’m s halfway decent player and adjust when I make mistakes or the team needs me to do so.
    Just btw, playing with a team is wildly harder than playing in solo-queue. Comp games are 50/50 with a slight leaning due to your own personal skill, that's why even the best players have ~55-70% winrates. If you deserve to climb, you will, just play more and try to improve your game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    That is incorrect. Not just specifically for myself but for others as well.
    I'm afraid he's right my dude. If you play enough games and you're playing better than your rank, you will climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kharjo View Post
    I'm afraid he's right my dude. If you play enough games and you're playing better than your rank, you will climb.
    See the above posters. No, he is not correct, not even in the slightest.

    If you can create a new account and suddenly end up in a higher rank then you were
    previously, that shows that there is something hilariously wrong with the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    That is incorrect. Not just specifically for myself but for others as well.
    no it is correct, if u cant get to the rating u think u should be then u are not good enough for that rating

  14. #8634
    Quote Originally Posted by Natta Lmo View Post
    no it is correct, if u cant get to the rating u think u should be then u are not good enough for that rating
    Just sharing my story.
    Season 2: 2564, 5 games won.
    Season 3: 2390, 8 games won.
    Season 4: 2642, 4 games won.
    Season 5: 2368, 5 games won.
    Season 6: 2398, 7 games won.
    Season 7: 2260, 2 games won.
    Season 8: 1956, 8 games won.

    If you look at my statistics you will see that when I win less games, my rating appears to drop less than when I win more games. Point being, the rating is garbage and doesn't work correctly. If you think it does, please show me how I won 8 out of 10 placement matches in season 8 and dropped 300 SR. Just looking, it somewhat seems like your wins in the previous season determine your rating in the next season. However, this falls apart between season 6 and 7, where I won 7 games but lost 100 SR rank.

    And perhaps unrelated but 6v6 competitive elimination stats are: 1679, 4 games won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    See the above posters. No, he is not correct, not even in the slightest.

    If you can create a new account and suddenly end up in a higher rank then you were
    previously, that shows that there is something hilariously wrong with the system.
    Problem with your assertion is that such activity is rare, although there can be occasions such a players personal skill increases faster than a stable MMR adjusts to this. You can keep arguing that your team is holding you back and actually you're amazing as much as you want, but if you want a better SR, you need to git gud.

  16. #8636
    Quote Originally Posted by NightZero88 View Post
    Just sharing my story.
    Season 2: 2564, 5 games won.
    Season 3: 2390, 8 games won.
    Season 4: 2642, 4 games won.
    Season 5: 2368, 5 games won.
    Season 6: 2398, 7 games won.
    Season 7: 2260, 2 games won.
    Season 8: 1956, 8 games won.

    If you look at my statistics you will see that when I win less games, my rating appears to drop less than when I win more games. Point being, the rating is garbage and doesn't work correctly. If you think it does, please show me how I won 8 out of 10 placement matches in season 8 and dropped 300 SR. Just looking, it somewhat seems like your wins in the previous season determine your rating in the next season. However, this falls apart between season 6 and 7, where I won 7 games but lost 100 SR rank.

    And perhaps unrelated but 6v6 competitive elimination stats are: 1679, 4 games won.
    Because wins barely matter? I think I went 2-8 or something in one season and still got placed higher than what I got in the season before it.

    Do you people ever consider the fact you're possibly just playing worse compared to the average player? Some of you sound so incredibly tilted all the time I strongly doubt you're actually putting enough energy into improving, especially when whining is so much easier.

    I know other posters here have seen great improvement too so some of you must be such special snowflakes for the system to keep you down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woobels View Post
    Because wins barely matter? I think I went 2-8 or something in one season and still got placed higher than what I got in the season before it.

    Do you people ever consider the fact you're possibly just playing worse compared to the average player? Some of you sound so incredibly tilted all the time I strongly doubt you're actually putting enough energy into improving, especially when whining is so much easier.

    I know other posters here have seen great improvement too so some of you must be such special snowflakes for the system to keep you down.
    I think personal performance does matter quite alot. Last season I was 2750 and these placements went to hell. I solo queued and met the worst possible teammates. Throwers, trolls etc etc, I only won 2 of 10 games, and my rating ended at 2700. How did I only lose 50 rating from last season, well, while I can't confirm anything, as I am not fully sure how it works, I played only healer, and did around 20k healing per game, which is quite above the avarage healer at this rating. I would guess thats why I didn't drop more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woobels View Post
    Because wins barely matter? I think I went 2-8 or something in one season and still got placed higher than what I got in the season before it.

    Do you people ever consider the fact you're possibly just playing worse compared to the average player? Some of you sound so incredibly tilted all the time I strongly doubt you're actually putting enough energy into improving, especially when whining is so much easier.

    I know other posters here have seen great improvement too so some of you must be such special snowflakes for the system to keep you down.
    If wins barely matter how do you improve your SR? If I was playing worse than the average player why do my win/loss records not reflect that? I'm not tilted in the slightest, I'm asking someone to explain how my SR reflects my wins/losses across seasons. As for putting in time to improve, I'm not, I play my 10 placement matches and that's it, otherwise I play QP or arcade. So my 10 games should be all that matters.

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  19. #8639
    Quote Originally Posted by ThatsOurEric View Post
    That is incorrect. Not just specifically for myself but for others as well.
    It's correct. This is my post about my first season placement in the game:

    Quote Originally Posted by Freighter View Post
    No, first season. I got 2131, gold. Won 5, 1 draw, 4 losses or maybe it was 5 wins and 5 losses, can't remember.
    I'm now 3424. If you are not improving, if you are not good enough, then you won't climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woobels View Post
    I know other posters here have seen great improvement too so some of you must be such special snowflakes for the system to keep you down.
    Yeah, when I started playing ranked I placed at 2131, now I'm high diamond. I've been really tilted at times due to griefers and leavers but given enough games, if you have improved and is good enough, you will be gaining rating if you are lower than you should be.

  20. #8640
    I love all the people who always blame everyone else for their losses and it is never their fault, the system is broken. If there was a “basic bitch” of video game bois these people would be the poster child for it.

    If you are stuck in bronze and you think it is everyone else’s fault then post a video of your games here, I guarantee you that we will see your basic bitch bronze gameplay mistakes and you are not as amazing as you think you are.
    If you push a button that finds you a 'random group' and it gives you a random group of people with random skill and random knowledge then you have no right to complain that a 'random group' button did what it was designed to do. The fault lies in your inability to make friends to play with instead of relying on a button designed to be random. It is a 'random group' button, not a 'best of the best' button.

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